Select Committee on Health Minutes of Evidence


Further letter from the Parliamentary Clerk, Department of Health, to the Clerk of the Committee

  I am writing to address the issues raised by the Public Expenditure Inquiry at the hearing held on 8 November.

  The points below are cross-referenced to the paragraph number in the transcript of the hearing.

PARAGRAPH 297—THE PROPORTION OF THE NHS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD

  1.  An age profile undertaken during 2000 indicated that 33 per cent of the national estate pre-dates the establishment of the NHS in 1948. It also showed that around 6 per cent of the estate had been constructed since 1995. The hospital building programme that it is now underway will mean that by 2010 40 per cent of the estate will be less than 15 years old.

PARAGRAPH 300—THE BED NUMBERS AT THE NORFOLK AND NORWICH PFI SCHEME

  2.  The figures quoted by the Secretay of State for Norfolk and Norwich are for the total current number of staffed in-patient beds (ie at June 2000) and those to be provided under the PFI solution—955 and 953 respectively—and are the figures set out for this project in Annex A.

  3.  The figures of 1,120 and 1,008 quoted in line 300 for 1995-96 are different from the physical stock of beds, which the NHS Executive's NBI compliance exercise and the figures provided to the Health Select Committee in June looked at. The figures of 1,120 and 1,008 are for "bed availability": these come from the Department of Health statistical bulletins and use a measure of the "Average daily number of available beds" which is defined as the "number of bed days in the year divided by the number of days in the year".

  4.  The figure of 809 is a figure for the physical stock of beds under the PFI solution which appeared in Hansard in February 1999; this was before the addition of 144 beds to the final PFI option (see the table in Annex A).

PARAGRAPH 300—THE BED NUMBERS AT THE BISHOP AUCKLAND PFI SCHEME

  5.  The bed number figures given for Bishop Auckland need to be updated as a result of the further research work on bed numbers described at Paragraphs 15 and 16 below is the response to the undertaking given by the Secretary of State at Paragraph 304.

  6.  As can be seen from the table at Annex Athe figure of 347 quoted for the total number of beds to be provided under the PFI solution is correct (the figure of 304 provided in the evidence to the Health Select Committee in June excluded day-case beds as requested by the Committee).

  7.  Bishop Auckland was one of the first PFI schemes and had a long development period. The Trust first reported a change from 375 to 308 for the current number of beds in December 1998; 308 appeared in the Hansard table of February 1999 with a footnote noting the reason for the change. However, when officials approached the Trust in May and June 2000 to collect the bed numbers for the Health Select Committee evidence and the internal NHS Executive NBI compliance exercises, the Trust reported that to compare the PFI solution with the current number of beds, the 46 elderly care beds currently at Tindale Crescent Hospital should be included in the latter figure as these are transferring to the Bishop Auckland site under the PFI solution.

  8.  This has always been the intention under the PFI solution and the appropriate figure for total "number of beds at present" should therefore be 354 (334 plus 20 day case beds).

PARAGRAPH 301—THE COST TO VARY THE CONTRACT ON THE NORFOLK SCHEME TO CREATE THE ADDITIONAL 144 BEDS

  9.  I understand that the Committee has written direct to the Trust to get more detailed explanation of this scheme. The total cost of providing the additional 144 beds is estimated as being £16.5 million, of which £1 million was provided from charitable sources. The asset provided by a PFI scheme is of course paid for by means of an availability payment. This is paid over the life of the contract, typically 30 years. The provision of the additional 144 beds will increase the annual availability payment paid by the Trust by £1.779 million a year, at today's prices.

PARAGRAPH 304—THE BASELINE USED FOR CALCULATING THE GAINS AND LOSSES IN BED NUMBERS

  10.  The figures on bed numbers given by the Secretary of State in Paragraph 303 were obtained from the 34 Trusts in June for the internal NHS Executive NBI compliance exercise. This exercise looked at the current number (defined as June 2000) of General and Acute (G&A) beds compared to the numbers of these beds to be provided on completion of the new facilities and the current plans for the provision of intermediate care beds in the local health economy.

  The exercise covered all schemes ove £10 million in value currently in procurement whether provided under PFI or the conventionally funded route. The figures quoted to the committee on 8 November were the results of interim work and are the same as those quoted by officials on their appearance before the committee on 2 November.

  11.  A set of further refined figures were provided to the Health Select Committee in this letter from John Innes of 7 November. Since then the two final outstanding queries have been resolved as follows:

    (i)  North Durham NHS Trust have confirmed one change—their figure for the "current" number of G&A beds has changed in the final table at Annex B from 499 to 464 (the 499 figure included day case beds);

    (ii)  United Bristol Health Care NHS Trust have confirmed that 21 of the 42 G&A beds they are to gain on completion are in fact transfers from other Trusts. The net gain is therefore 21 beds.

  12.  The final spreadsheet with the final figures for each individual Trust is provided at Annex B. The textual summary and summary tables which appeared in the letter of 7 November have been amended to give the final position as:

    —  Of the 34 schemes over £10 million in value currently in procurement, 25 were PFI projects and nine were publicly funded.

    —  In total, the 34 schemes plan to decrease the G&A beds by 479 (this was made up of a 287 reduction in the 25 PFI schemes and a 192 reduction in the nine public funded schemes). This represents an average loss in the PFI schemes of 11 G&A beds and 21 G&A beds in the publicly funded schemes.

    —  In the 25 PFI schemes, the 287 G&A beds lost had been counterbalanced by the creation of an additional 628 intermediate and other beds put in place elsewhere in the local health economy, giving net local net gains of 341 beds.

    —  In the nine publicly funded schemes, the 192 G&A beds lost had been counterbalanced by the provision of 106 intermediate and other care beds elsewhere in the local health economy, giving net local losses of 86 beds.

    —  Overall, there has been a loss of 479 G&A beds, counterbalanced by the provision of 734 other beds, giving a net gain of 255 beds:


No of schemes
Change in G&A bed numbers in the schemes
Known intermediate care and other bed provisions
Net bed position

25 PFI Schemes
Schemes gaining G&A beds
7
+121
0
+121
Schemes with no gain/loss
3
0
+41
+41
Schemes losing G&A beds
15
  —covered by other provisions
7
-203
+503
+300
  —not yet covered by other provisions
8
-205
+84
-121
SUB-TOTAL
-287
+628
+341
9 Publicly Funded Schemes
Schemes gaining G&A beds
2
+24
+32
+56
Schemes with no gain/loss
1
0
0
0
Schemes losing G&A beds
6
  —covered by other provisions
1
-4
+59
+55
  —not yet covered by other provisions
5
-212
+15
-197
SUB-TOTAL
-192
+106
-86
OVERALL TOTAL
-479
+734
+255


  13.  At Trust level the NBI compliance exercise considered the position of the physical stock of staffed in-patient G&A beds. The footnote at the base of the table at Annex B makes it clear that these figures exclude non-G&A specialisms such as maternity and day-case beds.

  14.  The Health Select Committee were provided with a table containing the number of "overnight" beds at the PFI Trusts examined in the NBI compliance exercise together with the other "second" and "third" wave major PFI schemes and four publicly funded schemes. These figures were for the total physical stock of staffed in-patient beds excluding day case beds, and the totals therefore differ from those of the NBI compliance exercise. The figures for this exercise were collected from NHS Trusts in May and June 2000, the same month as for the NBI compliance exercise, so the baseline for the figures for both of these exercises can be fixed as June 2000. This is particularly important for the figures for the number of "current" beds which we provide, which are necessarily a snapshot of the position at any one time and can vary considerably at the margins as wards are opened and closed.

  15.  Because the two tables are different we have therefore prepared a table which reconciles the two sets of figures for all the 19 major PFI schemes which have reached financial close. We will do a similar exercise for the remaining 15 schemes examined in the NBI compliance exercise. We have focused on the major schemes to start with as this provides us with the opportunity to also reconcile these figures with those which regularly appear in Hansard, and which are on a different basis: in Parliamentary Questions we are usually asked to provide figures for all in-patient staffed beds ie: G&A plus maternity and other specialisms plus day-case beds. The final totals for each Trust in the table at Annex A are therefore intended to reconcile with the last time the figures for the total numbers of beds appeared in Hansard, which was in February 1999 (Hansard 2 February 1999 Volume 596 Column 202-206).

  16.  The figures for the February 1999 Hansard table were collected nearly two years ago now so we have provided footnotes for all the significant changes. Officials are confident that these represent the final figures for these schemes with a baseline of June 2000.

PARAGRAPH 312—AN EXPLANATION OF THE IMPACT ON THE ACCOUNTING TREATMENT OF PFI SCHEMES

  17.  The Committee asked why PDC dividends paid by NHS Trusts appear to rise post PFI. It also queried why Trusts continued to charge depreciation once a PFI scheme becomes operational.

  18.  To provide a full comparison the pre PFI figures should have also included interest paid on Interest Bearing Debt (IBD) as well as dividends paid on Public Dividend Capital (PDC). Up until 1999-2000, NHS Trusts were financed by a combination of IBD and PDC issued by the Secretary of State. The IBD was a loan that was remunerated by the payment of interest and principal. The PDC is like share capital, which is renumerated by the payment of dividends. To simplify the financial regime of the NHS Trusts, the IBD was fully replaced by PDC in 1999-2000. This did not reduce the indebtedness of Trusts to the Secretary of State. The table attached below shows the interest paid by the Trusts specifically raised by the Committee—Calderdale, St George's and Dartford and Gravesham. A fully amended table 4.9k is attached as Annex C.

  19.  NHS Trusts will continue to pay PDC dividends and charge depreciation when PFI schemes become operational. This is because the Trusts will continue to own assets. Many of the PFI schemes are extensions to existing facilities rather than being totally new hospitals. For example, the St George's PFI scheme provides a cardothoracic and neuro-sciences development, but the remainder of the services will continue to be provided from facilities owned by the Trust.

  20.  Also, PFI schemes do not provide all the equipment needed by a Trust. The Trusts will continue to purchase and own significant amounts of equipment. As the new PFI facility is commissioned, much of the equipment will be new rather than transferred from the old site. The new equipment will have a higher value than what it replaces thus increasing the depreciation charge of the Trust. This is perfectly reasonable.

  21.  The Committee asked for a basic guide to PFI. Attached are extracts from an Introductory Guide to NHS Finance in the UK, which provides an overview of PFI and the NHS Trusts Capital Accounting Manual which gives more detail. Officials are willing to meet the Committee and explain the issue.


Pre PFI1
£000
Post PFI
£000

Calderdale Healthcare NHS TrustIncome
80,726
100,000
    —PFI
15,254
    —Depreciation
1,612
1,200
    —Interest
1,060
    —PDC dividends
1,117
2,380
Dartford and Gravesham NHS TrustIncome
59,114
57,783
    —PFI
17,700
    —Depreciation
2,488
2,552
    —Interest
2,292
    —PDC dividends
1,478
4,333
St George's Healthcare NHS TrustIncome
185,927
205,124
    —PFI
6,804
    —Depreciation
7,546
9,785
    —Interest
4,322
    —PDC dividends
3,673
7,053

1 Source: Audited Accounts 1998-99.

  I apologise for the delay in supplying this information to the Committee but I hope this addresses all the issues raised on 8 November 2000.

13 February 2001


 
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