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Mr. Sheerman: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport if he will make a statement on his policy regarding the location of new runways to be built in the South East. [71928]

Mr. Jamieson: I refer my hon. Friend to the statement made to the House on 23 July 2002, Official Report, columns 847–68 by my right hon. Friend, the Secretary of State for Transport.

Passenger Overcrowding

Mrs. May: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what the level of passenger overcrowding on the railways as the percentage of passengers in excess of capacity was during (a) the morning peak, (b) the evening peak and (c) both peaks together, (i) for each train company and (ii) overall in each of the last three years. [71061]

Mr. Jamieson [holding answer 18 July 2002]: The number of passengers now travelling into London each morning are at the highest level for over 10 years. Overcrowding figures for 2001, which were published in June, show a decrease on most lines compared to the previous year. That year, however, showed an increase overall compared to 1999. The figures are:

Per cent.

AM PM AM/PM combined
South Central5.
Connex South Eastern3.
Great Eastern4.
South West Trains4.
London Total3.
Scotrail (Forth Bridge)


The information is only collected for train operating companies serving London and South East commuter lines and one Scotrail commuter line.

Mrs. May: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport which train operating companies have an overcrowding standard as part of their franchise agreement; and what each such standard is. [71062]

Mr. Jamieson [holding answer 18 July 2002]: All train operating companies are required by their franchise agreements to avoid "regular, systematic, excessive overcrowding".

In addition, train operating companies which provide local services into London (South Central, Connex South Eastern, South West Trains, Thameslink, Thames Trains, Chiltern Trains, Silverlink, c2c, First Great Eastern and

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West Anglia Great Northern) and Scotrail (for Fife/Edinburgh area services only) are required by their franchise agreements to comply with the standards laid down under "Passengers in Excess of Capacity". These are the same for each operator and are: not more than 4.5 per cent. in excess of nominal capacity which varies with journey length and rolling stock type; and not more than 3 per cent. overall.

London Underground

Tom Brake: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport if he will make a statement on the discussions his Department has held with the EU about the PPP for London Underground and state aid. [62418]

Mr. Jamieson [holding answer 17 June 2002]: I refer the hon. Member to Part (a) of my answer of 17 June 2002, Official Report, column 67W.

Mrs. May: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport (1) what the extra money in expenditure on the London underground announced in the spending review will be spent on; and if he will make a statement; [71064]

Mr. Jamieson [holding answer 18 July 2002]: The spending review takes full account of the Government's commitment to full funding for the first seven-and-a-half years of the tube modernisation plans. A statement of how the Government intend to fund the London underground in the long term was annexed to the draft letters of comfort reported to Parliament by my right hon. Friend the former Secretary of State's Minute of 20 March 2002.

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No representations have been received from the consortia involved with the public-private partnership.

Tom Brake: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, pursuant to his answer of 16 July 2002, Official Report, column 143W, what contingency plans he has for the case where, after the financial close of PPP, a key partner in the Tubelines or Metronet Consortium fails and no replacement partner is found. [71812]

Mr. Jamieson: As my answer of 16 July made clear, the PPP contracts allow for changes in the shareholders of the consortia, subject to the consent of London Underground, including changes to the number of shareholders.

Tom Brake: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport if he will set out Government spending on London Underground in each of the next three years as a result of the CSR. [72216]

Mr. Jamieson: I refer the hon. Member to the reply I have given to the hon. Member for Maidenhead (Mrs. May) today.

Mrs. May: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport if he will give the overcrowding statistics for (a) 2001 and (b) 2002 to date for the London Underground. [71735]

Mr. Jamieson [holding answer 22 July 2002]: This is an operational matter for London Underground (LU), who have informed me that they measure how crowded services are in terms of the percentage chance of boarding a train with:

(i) all seats full,
(ii) one person standing for each seated passenger, and
(iii) two persons standing for each seated passenger.

LU have provided the information in the table showing this information for 2001–02 and the first quarter of 2002–03.


2001–02 2002–03(37)
PeakOff peakPeakOff peak
Chance of being on a train with all seats full.53305327
Chance of being on a train with at least one person standing for each one sitting.144143
Chance of being on a train with at least two people standing for each one sitting.111(38)

(37) First quarter

(38) Sample is too small to provide a meaningful percentage figure, but is less than 1 per cent.

Mr. Redwood: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport when he expects to send the first payments to London Underground PPP contractors. [72894]

Mr. Spellar: The Government will make no direct payments to the PPP contractors. London Underground will pay a monthly Infrastructure Service Charge to the contractors, once the Infrastructure Companies have been transferred to the private sector, following completion of the PPP contracts.

Mr. Todd: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport if he will publish details of the performance and investment targets set for London Underground in 2002–03. [73536]

Mr. Spellar: The table shows the targets that have been set for London Underground Ltd. in 2002–03, together with the previous targets, and actual performance achieved at the end of March 2002.

MeasureTargeted performance by end March 2002Actual performance at end March 2002Targeted performance by end March 2003
Excess journey time (unweighted) (minutes)3.633.443.42
Train kilometres operated (million)65.665.467.2
Customer satisfaction(39):
Overall evaluationn/an/a75
Train service7575(40)
Safety and security8078(40)
Staff helpfulness and availability6969(40)
Project expenditure (£ million)410429587
Project delivery(41):
Track renewals (km)19.524.025.4
Station upgrades553
Station designsn/an/a50
Escalator refurbishments201920
Other asset improvementsn/an/a4

(39) Average scores out of 100.

(40) Customer satisfaction scores are being rebased in 2002–03 to better reflect customers' views of journeys undertaken in the peak periods. Although not set as formal targets the five individual elements of the customer satisfaction scores will continue to be monitored and published by London Underground Ltd.

(41) A number of other investment works on escalators, rolling stock, signalling, stations and track will also be started, progressed or completed during the year.

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The Government are separately discussing longer-term performance targets for the London Underground with the Mayor as part of the proposed tube modernisation plans.

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