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Page 39 2001-2002 Volume 258 [No. 12.] Monday 2nd July 2001. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
William Etherington ... ... ... for Sunderland North Robert Victor Jackson ... ... ... Wantage
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Homelessness Bill, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of any increase attributable to the Act in the sums payable out of money so provided under any other Act—(Mr Ivor Caplin):—It was agreed to.
And the Question being again proposed:—The House resumed the adjourned Debate. And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned. Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.
Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till half-past Ten o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.30 p.m. APPENDIX Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 29th June 2001 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O. No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 158 (Presentation of command papers):
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Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 29th June 2001 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O. No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 159 (Presentation of statutory instruments): Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) Social Security Amendment (Volunteers) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 2296), dated 22nd June 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling]. Papers presented or laid upon the Table on Monday 2nd July 2001: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
(2) Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 83) on Maintenance of Roads Grant 2001–02 [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 111 and 88] [Mr Secretary Byers]. Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) Safety of Sports Grounds (Designation) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 2372) dated 2nd July 2001 [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell]. Other Papers:
(2) Treasury Minute, dated 2nd July 2001, establishing a further financial objective for the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory Trading Fund [by Act] [Mr Andrew Smith].
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MEMORANDUM POLITICAL PARTIES, ELECTIONS AND REFERENDUMS ACT 2000
[No. 13.] Tuesday 3rd July 2001. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
That the bill shall be presented to the House by deposit in the Private Bill Office no later than the fifth day on which the House sits after this day; That a declaration signed by the agent shall be annexed to the bill, stating that it is the same in every respect as the bill presented in this House in the last Parliament; That on the next sitting day following presentation, the Clerk in the Private Bill Office shall lay the bill on the Table of the House; That in the current session of Parliament the bill shall be deemed to have passed through every stage through which it had passed in the last Parliament, and shall be recorded in the Journal of the House as having passed those stages; That no further fees shall be charged to such stages; That the petition relating to the bill which stood referred to the committee on the bill in the last Parliament shall stand referred to the committee on the bill in the current session of Parliament; That no petitioners shall be heard before the committee unless their petition has been presented within the time provided for petitioning or has been deposited pursuant to Private Business Standing Order 126(b); That, in relation to the bill, Private Business Standing Order 127 shall have effect as if the words ‘under Standing Order 126 (Reference to committee of petitions against bill)' were omitted—(The Second Deputy Chairman of Ways and Means); And objection being taken to further proceeding; Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Tuesday 10th July.
That the members of the Committee of Selection nominated this day shall continue to be members of the Committee for the remainder of this Parliament. That this Order be a Standing Order of the House.—(Keith Hill.) Page 42 Tuesday 3rd July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top
Statutory Instruments (Joint Committee),—The Lords communicate that they have ordered that the Committee appointed by them to join with a Committee appointed by this House as the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments do meet with the Committee appointed by this House at half-past Ten o'clock on Thursday 5th July, as proposed by this House. Human Rights (Joint Committee),—The Lords communicate that they have appointed a Committee of six Lords to join with a Committee appointed by the Commons as the Joint Committee on Human Rights, To consider: (a) matters relating to human rights in the United Kingdom (but excluding consideration of individual cases); (b) proposals for remedial orders, draft remedial orders and remedial orders made under Section 10 of and laid under Schedule 2 to the Human Rights Act 1998; and (c) in respect of draft remedial orders and remedial orders, whether the special attention of the House should be drawn to them on any of the grounds specified in Standing Order 73 (Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments); To report to the House: (a) in relation to any document containing proposals laid before the House under paragraph 3 of the said Schedule 2, its recommendation whether a draft order in the same terms as the proposals should be laid before the House; or (b) in relation to any draft order laid under paragraph 2 of the said Schedule 2, its recommendation whether the draft order should be approved; and to have power to report to the House on any matter arising from its consideration of the said proposals or draft orders; and To report to the House in respect of any original order laid under paragraph 4 of the said Schedule 2, its recommendation whether: (a) the order should be approved in the form in which it was originally laid before Parliament; or (b) that the order should be replaced by a new order modifying the provisions of the original order; or (c) that the order should not be approved, and to have power to report to the House on any matter arising from its consideration of the said order or any replacement order; That the Committee have power to agree with any Committee appointed by the Commons in the appointment of a Chairman; That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom, and to institutions of the Council of Europe outside the United Kingdom no more than four times in any calendar year; That the Committee have leave to report from time to time; That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers; That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the Committee think fit, be printed and delivered out.
Joseph Alan Meale ... ... ... for Mansfield.
Committal 1. The Bill shall be committed to a Committee of the whole House. Page 43 Tuesday 3rd July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top Programming of proceedings 2. Proceedings in Committee of the whole House and all remaining proceedings on the Bill shall be programmed. Proceedings in Committee, on consideration and on Third Reading 3.—(1) Proceedings in Committee of the whole House, any proceedings on consideration and proceedings on Third Reading shall be completed in two allotted days. (2) An allotted day is one on which the Bill is put down as first Government Order of the day—(Mr Ivor Caplin):—It was agreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the European Communities (Finance) Bill, it is expedient to authorise the charging on, and payment out of, the Consolidated Fund or the National Loans Fund of any sums which, by virtue of the amendment of the European Communities Act 1972 made by that Act, fall to be charged on or paid out of either of those Funds—(Mr Ivor Caplin):—It was agreed to.
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-three minutes past Ten o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.23 p.m. APPENDIX Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
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(2) Accounts of the National Museums of Scotland for 1999–2000, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 101 and 102] [Clerk of the House]. Papers withdrawn:
CHAIRMEN'S PANEL
[No. 13; WH, No. 2.] Tuesday 3rd July 2001. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000]. The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And it being Two o'clock, the sitting was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 2 p.m. [No. 14.] Wednesday 4th July 2001. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
That the bill shall be presented to the House by deposit in the Private Bill Office no later than the fifth day on which the House sits after this day; That a declaration signed by the agent shall be annexed to the bill, stating that it is the same in every respect as the bill presented in this House in the last Parliament; That on the next sitting day following presentation, the Clerk in the Private Bill Office shall lay the bill on the Table of the House; That in the present session of Parliament the bill shall be deemed to have passed through every stage through which it had passed in the last Parliament, and shall be recorded in the Journal of the House as having passed those stages; Page 45 Wednesday 4th July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top That no further fees shall be charged to such stages—(The Chairman of Ways and Means); And objection being taken to further proceedings, the Debate stood adjourned. Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Wednesday 11th July.
And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time; An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from the word ‘That' to the end of the Question and add the words ‘this House declines to give a Second Reading to the European Communities (Amendment) Bill because it fails to modernise the institutions and policies of the European Union to meet the requirements of a diverse, enlarged Union; takes no account of acknowledgements from Her Majesty's Government and the President of the Commission that ratification of the Treaty of Nice is not a legal or technical prerequisite of enlargement; works against speedy and successful enlargement by providing for further integration; fails to address reform of the Common Agricultural Policy, the single most important obstacle to such enlargement; ignores the wishes of those European Union citizens whose views have been sought in a referendum and fails to offer a similar opportunity to citizens of the United Kingdom; and diverts attention away from the pressing need for Her Majesty's Government to work with other member states and accession countries for the creation of a modern, flexible, reformed European Union', instead thereof.—(Mr Francis Maude.) And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Randall, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 151. Tellers for the Noes, Jim Fitzpatrick, Dan Norris: 388. So the Question was negatived. And the Main Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on second or third reading); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Jim Fitzpatrick, Dan Norris: 385. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr John Randall: 148. So the Question was agreed to. The Bill was accordingly read a second time.
Committal of the Bill 1. The Bill shall be committed to a Committee of the whole House. Programming of proceedings 2. Proceedings in Committee of the whole House and all remaining proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments or on any further message from the Lords) shall be programmed. Proceedings in Committee, on consideration and on Third Reading 3.—(1) Proceedings in Committee of the whole House, any proceedings on consideration and proceedings on Third Reading shall be completed in four allotted days. (2) An allotted day is one on which the Bill is put down as first Government Order of the day—(Mr John Heppell); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Dan Norris, Jim Fitzpatrick: 372. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr John Randall: 148. So the Question was agreed to.
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And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till fourteen minutes past Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 11.14 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(2) Order, dated 2nd June 2001, to amend the rates of pay, bounties and allowances of the Royal Air Force Reserve and the Royal Auxiliary Air Force [by Act] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
(1) acquisition by BASF AG of certain assets of Takeda Chemical Industries Ltd, and (2) merger situation between SCR-Sibelco SA and Fife Silica Sands Ltd and Fife Resources Ltd [by Command] [Cms. 5209 and 5139] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].
(1) the Air Force Regulations, (2) the Army Regulations, and (3) the Navy Regulations as to pensions for 2000–01 [by Command] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
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APPENDIX II Standing Committees
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee A, and has appointed Mr Roger Gale and Mr George Stevenson Chairmen; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Ms Karen Buck, Paul Clark, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr Don Foster, Dr Hywel Francis, Dr Brian Iddon, Ms Sally Keeble, Mr David Kidney, Tim Loughton, Mr Andrew Love, Margaret Moran, Mr Andrew Selous, Mr Nigel Waterson, Dr Alan Whitehead, Hywel Williams and Mr Phil Woolas.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr David Amess Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Bob Ainsworth, Janet Anderson, Norman Baker, Mr David Borrow, Annette Brooke, Mr David Cameron, John Cryer, Denzil Davies, Mr Andrew Dismore, Mr Jonathan Djanogly, Mr Neil Gerrard, Mr Oliver Heald, Mr Piara S. Khabra, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr John Randall and Dr Howard Stoate.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Bill O'Brien Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Douglas Alexander, Mr Richard Bacon, Mr Gregory Barker, Mr Nigel Beard, Mr Tony Colman, Jeremy Corbyn, Brian Cotter, Mr James Gray, Norman Lamb, Martin Linton, Mr Richard Page, Mr Ian Pearson, Mr Kerry Pollard, Lawrie Quinn, Mr Jonathan R. Shaw and Brian White.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Orders to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Win Griffiths Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Henry Bellingham, Patsy Calton, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr David Chidgey, Mr Tom Clarke, Mr David Crausby, Jim Dowd, Mr Mark Field, Mr Mark Fisher, Caroline Flint, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Peter Hain, Glenda Jackson, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Tony McWalter and Mr Stephen Pound.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr John Butterfill Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Hugh Bayley, Paul Clark, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Valerie Davey, Clive Efford, Mr Adrian Flook, Mr Don Foster, Mr Mark Francois, Matthew Green, Jane Griffiths, Ms Sally Keeble, Dr Stephen Ladyman, Tim Loughton, Mr Andrew Miller, Linda Perham and Mr Phil Woolas.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Orders to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Joe Benton Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Harry Barnes, Mr Desmond Browne, Mr Ian Cawsey, Mr James Cran, Mr Frank Field, Mr Paul Goodman, Chris Grayling, Mr John Grogan, Lady Hermon, Simon Hughes, Lynne Jones, Shona McIsaac, Judy Mallaber, Laura Moffatt, Mr Graham Stringer and Mr John Taylor. Page 48 Wednesday 4th July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Jonathan Sayeed Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Tony Banks, Mr Clive Betts, Colin Burgon, Mr Martin Caton, Mr John Denham, Paul Farrelly, Mr Charles Hendry, Mr Mark Hoban, Simon Hughes, Mr Peter Kilfoyle, Mr David Lidington, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Alan Meale, Mr John Randall, Bob Russell and Dr Howard Stoate.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Nicholas Winterton Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Peter Atkinson, Mr Roger Berry, Mr Chris Bryant, Mr David Chaytor, Ann Clwyd, Angela Eagle, Mike Gapes, Patrick Hall, Mr Oliver Heald, Simon Hughes, Mrs Joan Humble, Mr Boris Johnson, Helen Jones, Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger, Mrs Anne McGuire and Richard Younger-Ross. MEMORANDUM The Speaker having, in pursuance of the Recess Elections Act 1975 (1975 c. 66), made his appointment of Members of the House of Commons for the issuing of Warrants to the Clerk of the Crown in the cases therein mentioned, the same is here entered in pursuance of the directions of the said Act; and is, as follows: By virtue of section 4(1) of the Recess Elections Act 1975 I do hereby appoint Sir Patrick Cormack Right honourable Sir Alan Haselhurst Mr Tam Dalyell Mrs Sylvia Heal Right honourable Alan Beith being Members of the House of Commons, or any one or more of them, to exercise the powers given to the Speaker of the House of Commons for the time being by the said Act, at any time when there is no Speaker or the Speaker is out of the United Kingdom. Given under my hand and seal this fourth day of July in the year of Our Lord two thousand and one. [No. 14; WH, No. 3.] Wednesday 4th July 2001. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000]. The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And it being Two o'clock, the sitting was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 2 p.m. Page 49 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top [No. 15.] Thursday 5th July 2001. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
SCHEDULE Standing Order 27, line 66, leave out from ‘Office' to ‘and' in line 68 and insert— ‘and one copy at the Health and Safety Executive, the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and the Department for Transport, Local Government'. Standing Order 27A, line 24, leave out from ‘be' to first ‘and' in line 26 and insert— ‘two in the case of a deposit at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and the Department for Transport, Local Government'. Standing Order 29, line 8, leave out ‘of the Environment, Transport' and insert ‘for Transport, Local Government'. Standing Order 30A, line 4, leave out ‘of the Environment, Transport and the Regions' and insert ‘for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs'. Standing Order 31, line 6, leave out ‘of the Environment, Transport and the Regions' and insert, ‘for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs'. Standing Order 32, line 8, leave out ‘Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food' and insert ‘Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs'. Standing Order 34, line 10, leave out ‘of the Environment, Transport' and insert— ‘for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and at the Department for Transport, Local Government'. Standing Order 37, line 9, leave out from ‘Office' to ‘and' in line 10, and insert— ‘the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and the Department for Transport, Local Government'. Standing Order 37, line 14, leave out ‘a copy' and insert ‘two copies'. Standing Order 37, line 17, leave out from ‘the' to ‘and' in line 19 and insert— ‘Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and one at the Department for Transport, Local Government'. Standing Order 39, line 3, leave out from ‘bill,' to ‘three' in line 4. Standing Order 39, line 4, after ‘at' insert ‘the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs'. Standing Order 39, line 5, after ‘Office' insert— ‘and the Department for Transport, Local Government and the Regions'. Standing Order 39, line 6, leave out ‘the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food'. Standing Order 39, line 9, leave out ‘Employment' and insert ‘Skills'. Standing Order 39, line 10, leave out ‘of Social Security' and insert ‘for Work and Pensions'. Standing Order 39, line 20, leave out ‘Employment' and insert ‘Skills'. Standing Order 39, line 23, leave out ‘Employment' and insert ‘Skills'. Standing Order 39, line 29, leave out ‘Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food' and insert ‘Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs'. Standing Order 45, line 20, leave out from ‘Department' to ‘and' and insert— ‘for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and at the Department for Transport, Local Government'. Standing Order 47, line 10, leave out ‘of the Environment, Transport' and insert ‘for Transport, Local Government'. Standing Order 101, line 4, leave out ‘Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food' and insert ‘Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs'. Page 50 Thursday 5th July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top Standing Order 147, line 7, leave out ‘the Environment, Transport' and insert ‘Transport, Local Government'.* Standing Order 147, line 10, leave out ‘of the Environment, Transport' and insert ‘for Transport, Local Government'.* Standing Order 154, line 12, leave out from ‘the Environment, Transport' and insert ‘Transport, Local Government'. Standing Order 154, line 28, leave out ‘the Environment, Transport', and insert ‘Transport, Local Government'. [*refers to the Standing Order text as amended by the House on 28 February 2001.] —(The First Deputy Chairman of Ways and Means.)
That, after a Bill has been under consideration in a Standing Committee, no application for changes in the composition of that Committee in respect of that Bill will be entertained by this Committee except where a Member is incapacitated from attendance by illness, or where he has been appointed or ceased to be a Member of the Government or has changed his office for another, or has acquired other duties, or ceased to hold or changed such duties. Report to lie upon the Table.
That Motions to alter the membership of select committees may be tabled on behalf of the Committee of Selection only if previously approved at a meeting of the Committee of Selection. Report to lie upon the Table.
(1) the Speaker shall put the Questions necessary to dispose of proceedings on any Motions in the name of Mr Robin Cook relating to— (a) recommendations of the Senior Salaries Review Body and related issues not later than Four o'clock; and (b) Select Committees and European Standing Committees not later than Seven o'clock; and proceedings on the Motions referred to in sub-paragraph (b) above may be concluded, though opposed, after Seven o'clock. (2) the Questions referred to in paragraph (1) shall include the questions on any Amendments selected by the Speaker which may then be moved.—(Mr Stephen Twigg.)
(1) Provision should be made, with effect from 5th July 2001, to implement Chapter 3 of the report of the Review Body on Senior Salaries on parliamentary pay and allowances (Cm. 4997–I) a copy of which was laid before this House on 16th March, to establish a General Services Budget under the Members' Vote, and with regard to related matters; Page 51 Thursday 5th July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top (2) These provisions should be applied as follows (subject to transitional arrangements under (5) and (6) below, and any directions which may from time to time be given by Mr Speaker with regard to their application): (a) the salaries of staff employed by Members to help them in their duties as Members of Parliament, and pensions contributions equivalent to ten per cent. of each employee's salary, should be paid centrally by the Department of Finance and Administration; (b) all such staff who become employed by a Member should be employed on pay rates to be linked to job descriptions and standard contracts prepared by the Department of Finance and Administration; (c) the total costs of employing such staff, attributable to a particular Member, excluding the pension contribution outlined in (a) above should be limited to £60,000 a year (£70,000 a year where a Member represents a London constituency) these figures to be uprated annually to reflect changes in pay levels for equivalent jobs outside the House; (d) a new provision called an Incidental Expenses Provision should be established (at a rate of £14,000 per year for each Member, and uprated annually in line with the Retail Prices Index), to meet any other expenditure which Members may incur wholly necessarily and exclusively in discharging their duties as Members; (e) specific financial provisions should be made for the supply and maintenance of a standard package of information technology equipment and services for each Member to be used exclusively in discharging their duties as Members; and (f) the Office Costs Allowance should be abolished after a transitional period ending on 31st March 2003.
(3) Central funding by way of a General Services Budget should provide for: (a) relevant training of Members and Members' staff in connection with their parliamentary duties; (b) any appropriate insurance provision; (c) any additional reimbursement of exceptional expenses incurred by Members who have constituencies with particular problems; (d) reasonable adjustments to the working conditions and equipment of Members with particular needs because of disability, and for necessary additional continuing costs; (e) any additional payments to Members in respect of safety precautions to safeguard their staff, their office equipment and themselves, where such safety precautions have been recommended by the police; and (f) other appropriate expenditure within the ambit of the Vote, under the authority of the Speaker.
(4)—(1) It should be the responsibility of a Panel appointed by Mr Speaker to advise him on: (i) directions he may give as to the application of the provisions of this Resolution under paragraphs (2) and (3) above; (ii) his authorisation of expenditure not otherwise specified in this Resolution but within the ambit of the Vote, pursuant to paragraph (3)(f) thereof; and (iii) the application of the provisions of this Resolution to individual cases of difficulty. (2) The Panel should advise Mr Speaker and the Leader of the House on the potential development of the arrangements made by or under the Resolutions in force from time to time regarding Members' allowances &c.
(5) The following provisions should be made regarding the allowances of Members who, having sat in the previous Parliament, are returned to the present Parliament (subject to directions which may be given from time to time by Mr Speaker with regard to application): (a) Members may, whether or not they take advantage of central Information Technology provision, opt to retain their entitlement to the Office Costs Page 52 Thursday 5th July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top Allowance, payable at the level and subject to provisions for uprating in force at 1st April 2001;(b) Any reasonable contractual commitments entered into by Members who transfer to the new provisions in respect of staff and IT should be honoured through central funding until they can reasonably be terminated; But these provisions should cease to have effect from 1st April 2003. (6) Transitional provisions for all Members transferring to the new arrangements in 2001–02 should be determined by Mr Speaker, having taken advice where appropriate from the Panel set up under paragraph (4) of this Resolution.
(7) In relation to the Winding Up Allowance, Subsection (3) of Part E of the Resolution of 13th July 1994 shall apply to Members who benefit from the provisions of paragraphs (2)(a) to (2)(d) of this Resolution as if for the words ‘office costs allowance' there were substituted the words ‘sum of the incidental Expenses Provision and the relevant staff employment cost limit in force at the time they ceased to be a Member'.
(8) When provision is made in respect of any Members in accordance with the provisions of paragraph (3)(d) of this Resolution, any Resolution of this House entitling that Member to claim a multiple of the Office Costs Allowance shall cease to have effect—(Mr Robin Cook); And it being Four o'clock, the Speaker, pursuant to Order [this day], put forthwith the Questions he was required to put at that hour. An Amendment ((o)) was made to the Question, in line 18, by leaving out from the word ‘above' to the word ‘these' in line 20, and inserting the words ‘should not in any financial year exceed— (i) £70,000 in the case of a Member representing a London constituency; and (ii) £60,000 in the case of any other Member, plus £3,500 in respect of each full-time (or full-time equivalent) staff person employed by that Member whose duties are wholly or mainly required to be performed within Greater London, provided that the aggregate sum payable in respect of any Member shall not exceed £70,000,', instead thereof.—(Mr Clive Soley.) Another Amendment ((d)) was made to the Question, in line 23, by leaving out ‘£14,000' and inserting ‘£18,000', instead thereof.—(Mr Clive Soley.) Another Amendment ((l)) was proposed to the Question, in line 32, at the end, to insert the words— ‘(h) that Members should be consulted on their IT needs and requirements before any contracts are let centrally; that the central purchase of any IT equipment should be subject to public procurement requirements; that a wide range of provision is offered and updated as required by each Member and that Members should have access to more than one IT support service of their own choosing.'.—(Mrs Jacqui Lait.) And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made:—It was negatived. Another Amendment ((e)) was proposed to the Question, in line 32, at the end, to insert the words— ‘(2A) The House of Commons Additional Costs Allowance should be increased by the same proportion as that proposed for the House of Lords Overnight Allowance under Recommendation 16 of the Review Body on Senior Salaries Report No. 48.'.—(Mr Clive Betts.) And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Miller, Mr Kevin Barron: 229. Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Heppell, Mr Graham Stringer: 117. So the Question was agreed to. And the Main Question, as amended, being put; Resolved, That, in the opinion of this House— (1) Provision should be made, with effect from 5th July 2001, to implement Chapter 3 of the report of the Review Body on Senior Salaries on parliamentary pay and allowances (Cm. 4997–I) a copy of which was laid before this House on 16th March, to establish a General Services Budget under the Members' Vote, and with regard to related matters; Page 53 Thursday 5th July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top (2) These provisions should be applied as follows (subject to transitional arrangements under (6) and (7) below, and any directions which may from time to time be given by Mr Speaker with regard to their application): (a) the salaries of staff employed by Members to help them in their duties as Members of Parliament, and pensions contributions equivalent to ten per cent. of each employee's salary, should be paid centrally by the Department of Finance and Administration; (b) all such staff who become employed by a Member should be employed on pay rates to be linked to job descriptions and standard contracts prepared by the Department of Finance and Administration; (c) the total costs of employing such staff, attributable to a particular Member, excluding the pension contribution outlined in (a) above should not in any financial year exceed— (i) £70,000 in the case of a Member representing a London constituency; and (ii) £60,000 in the case of any other Member, plus £3,500 in respect of each full-time (or full-time equivalent) staff person employed by that Member whose duties are wholly or mainly required to be performed within Greater London, provided that the aggregate sum payable in respect of any Member shall not exceed £70,000, these figures to be uprated annually to reflect changes in pay levels for equivalent jobs outside the House; (d) a new provision called an Incidental Expenses Provision should be established (at a rate of £18,000 per year for each Member, and uprated annually in line with the Retail Prices Index), to meet any other expenditure which Members may incur wholly necessarily and exclusively in discharging their duties as Members; (e) specific financial provisions should be made for the supply and maintenance of a standard package of information technology equipment and services for each Member to be used exclusively in discharging their duties as Members; and (f) the Office Costs Allowance should be abolished after a transitional period ending on 31st March 2003. (3) The House of Commons Additional Costs Allowance should be increased by the same proportion as that proposed for the House of Lords Overnight Allowance under Recommendation 16 of the Review Body on Senior Salaries Report No. 48.
(4) Central funding by way of a General Services Budget should provide for: (a) relevant training of Members and Members' staff in connection with their parliamentary duties; (b) any appropriate insurance provision; (c) any additional reimbursement of exceptional expenses incurred by Members who have constituencies with particular problems; (d) reasonable adjustments to the working conditions and equipment of Members with particular needs because of disability, and for necessary additional continuing costs; (e) any additional payments to Members in respect of safety precautions to safeguard their staff, their office equipment and themselves, where such safety precautions have been recommended by the police; and (f) other appropriate expenditure within the ambit of the Vote, under the authority of the Speaker.
(5)—(1) It should be the responsibility of a Panel appointed by Mr Speaker to advise him on: (i) directions he may give as to the application of the provisions of this Resolution under paragraphs (2) and (4) above; (ii) his authorisation of expenditure not otherwise specified in this Resolution but within the ambit of the Vote, pursuant to paragraph (4)(f) thereof; and (iii) the application of the provisions of this Resolution to individual cases of difficulty. (2) The Panel should advise Mr Speaker and the Leader of the House on the potential development of the arrangements made by or under the Resolutions in force from time to time regarding Members' allowances &c. Page 54 Thursday 5th July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top
(6) The following provisions should be made regarding the allowances of Members who, having sat in the previous Parliament, are returned to the present Parliament (subject to directions which may be given from time to time by Mr Speaker with regard to application): (a) Members may, whether or not they take advantage of central Information Technology provision, opt to retain their entitlement to the Office Costs Allowance, payable at the level and subject to provisions for uprating in force at 1st April 2001; (b) Any reasonable contractual commitments entered into by Members who transfer to the new provisions in respect of staff and IT should be honoured through central funding until they can reasonably be terminated; But these provisions should cease to have effect from 1st April 2003. (7) Transitional provisions for all Members transferring to the new arrangements in 2001–02 should be determined by Mr Speaker, having taken advice where appropriate from the Panel set up under paragraph (5) of this Resolution.
(8) In relation to the Winding Up Allowance, Subsection (3) of Part E of the Resolution of 13th July 1994 shall apply to Members who benefit from the provisions of paragraphs (2)(a) to (2)(d) of this Resolution as if for the words ‘Office Costs Allowance' there were substituted the words ‘sum of the Incidental Expenses Provision and the relevant staff employment cost limit in force at the time they ceased to be a Member'.
(9) When provision is made in respect of any Members in accordance with the provisions of paragraph (4)(d) of this Resolution, any Resolution of this House entitling that Member to claim a multiple of the Office Costs Allowance shall cease to have effect.
(1) In respect of service in the period starting with 20th June 2001 and ending with 31st March 2002 the salary of a Member shall be increased by £2,000 per annum. (2) That salary shall be increased by a further £2,000 per annum from 1st April 2002. (3) The increases referred to above shall be additional to any increase resulting from the operation of paragraph (2) of the Resolution of this House of 10th July 1996—(Mr Robin Cook); An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word ‘House' to the end of the Question and add the words— ‘(1) the Resolution of this House of 10th July 1996 relating to Members' salaries be rescinded; and (2) for each year starting with 1st April, from 2002 onwards, the salary of a Member shall be increased by the average of the percentage increase recommended in that year by the Nurses', School Teachers', and Doctors' and Dentists' Pay Review Bodies.', instead thereof.—(Mr Chris Mullin.) And the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [this day], That the Amendment be made; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Harry Barnes, Mrs Anne Campbell: 66. Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Heppell, Mr Graham Stringer: 260. So the Question was negatived. And the Main Question being put; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Heppell, Mr Graham Stringer: 276. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Harry Barnes, Mr Mark Todd: 42. So the Question was agreed to. Page 55 Thursday 5th July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top Resolved, That, in the opinion of this House, the following provision should be made with respect to the salaries of Members of this House— (1) In respect of service in the period starting with 20th June 2001 and ending with 31st March 2002 the salary of a Member shall be increased by £2,000 per annum. (2) That salary shall be increased by a further £2,000 per annum from 1st April 2002. (3) The increases referred to above shall be additional to any increase resulting from the operation of paragraph (2) of the Resolution of this House of 10th July 1996.
And that this House further endorses the proposals for changes in this scheme and the avc scheme pursuant to the Welfare Reform and Pensions Act 1999 in relation to pension sharing on divorce—(Mr Robin Cook); An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Question, in line 9, at the end, to add the words— ‘And that this House further endorses the recommendation of the Trustees of the Parliamentary Contributory Pension Fund that the accrual rate be increased to 1/40th and that the additional cost be borne by the Exchequer.'.—(Mr John Butterfill.) And the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [this day], That the Amendment be made; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Eric Forth, Mr George Mudie: 215. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Graham Stringer, Mr John Heppell: 172. So the Question was agreed to. Another Amendment ((b)) was proposed to the Question, after the words last added, to add the words— ‘And that this House believes that survivors' benefits could apply to unmarried partners as well as spouses.'.—(Dr Evan Harris.) And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Heppell, Mr Graham Stringer: 289. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Mr Gerald Howarth: 33. So the Question was agreed to. And the Main Question, as amended, being put; Resolved, That this House endorses the proposals for changes to the Parliamentary Pensions Scheme to give effect to recommendations 1, 3, 5, and 7 contained in the SSRB Report on the Scheme laid on 16th March 2001 and calls on the Trustees of the Scheme to consider how best to implement recommendation 2 but at no additional cost to the Exchequer and to consider recommendations 4, 6 and 8. And that this House further endorses the proposals for changes in this scheme and the avc scheme pursuant to the Welfare Reform and Pensions Act 1999 in relation to pension sharing on divorce. And that this House further endorses the recommendation of the Trustees of the Parliamentary Contributory Pension Fund that the accrual rate be increased to 1/40th and that the additional cost be borne by the Exchequer. And that this House believes that survivors' benefits could apply to unmarried partners as well as spouses.
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Resolved, That the following provision shall be made with respect to the salaries of Members of this House— (1) In respect of service in the period starting with 20th June 2001 and ending with 31st March 2002 the salary of a Member shall be increased by £2,000 per annum. (2) That salary shall be increased by a further £2,000 per annum from 1st April 2002. (3) The increases referred to above shall be additional to any increase resulting from the operation of paragraph (2) of the Resolution of this House of 10th July 1996.—(Mr Robin Cook.)
S.O. No. 124 (Quorum of select committees): in line 1, at the begining, insert— ‘(A) Except as otherwise provided, the quorum of a select committee shall be three or a quarter of the number of its members, whichever is the greater; and in calculating the quorum fractions shall be counted as one. (B) Where more than two select committees or sub-committees thereof meet concurrently for the purpose of deliberating or taking evidence, pursuant to Standing Order (Select committees: power to work with other committees), the quorum of each shall be two.'. S.O. No. 139 (Select Committee on Broadcasting): in line 5, leave out from ‘Members' to end of line 6. S.O. No. 141 (Deregulation and Regulatory Reform Committee): leave out paragraph (10). S.O. No. 142 (Domestic Committees): in line 9, leave out from ‘Members' to end of the line. S.O. No. 144 (Finance and Services Committee): in line 19, leave out from ‘Members' to end of the line. S.O. No. 145 (Liaison Committee): leave out paragraph (5). S.O. No. 146 (Select Committee on Public Administration): in line 10, leave out from ‘Members' to end of line 11. S.O. No. 147 (Procedure Committee): leave out paragraph (3). S.O. No. 148 (Committee of Public Accounts): in line 7, leave out from ‘Members' to ‘The' in line 8. S.O. No. 152 (Select committees related to government departments): in line 7, after ‘concerned', insert ‘and'. in line 8, leave out from ‘committee' to ‘shall'. in the table in paragraph (2), leave out the fourth column (‘Quorum'). leave out paragraph (5). S.O. No. 152A (Environmental Audit Committee): in line 9, leave out from ‘Members' to end of line 10.
That— (1) The following Standing Order (Select committees: power to work with other committees) be made: ‘(1) Any select committee or sub-committee with power to send for persons, papers and records shall have power— (a) to communicate its evidence to any other select committee or sub-committee of either House of Parliament; provided that evidence from the National Audit Page 57 Thursday 5th July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top Office shall first have been agreed between that Office and the government department or departments concerned;(b) to meet concurrently with any such committee or sub-committee for the purpose of deliberating or taking evidence; and (c) to meet concurrently with any other select committee of this House for the purpose of considering a draft report. (2) Where two or more select committees have agreed reports to the House in identical terms, those reports may be published as a joint report.'; and (2) That the following amendments be made to Standing Orders: S.O. No. 139 (Select Committee on Broadcasting): in line 16, leave out from ‘communicate' to end of line 33, and insert ‘its evidence to the House of Commons Commission'. S.O. No. 141 (Deregulation and Regulatory Reform Committee): leave out lines 116 to 126. S.O. No. 142 (Domestic Committees): in line 23, leave out from ‘communicate' to end of line 40, and insert ‘its evidence to the House of Commons Commission'. S.O. No. 143 (European Scrutiny Committee): leave out paragraphs (12) and (13). S.O. No. 144 (Finance and Services Committee): in line 28, leave out from ‘communicate' to end of line 45, and insert ‘its evidence to the House of Commons Commission'. S.O. No. 146 (Select Committee on Public Administration): leave out lines 21 to 26. S.O. No. 148 (Committee of Public Accounts): leave out paragraphs (3) and (4). S.O. No. 152 (Select Committees related to government departments): leave out lines 29 to 42. in line 47, leave out from ‘proceedings' to ‘and' in line 52. S.O. No. 152A (Environmental Audit Committee): leave out lines 23 to 34.
That Standing Order No. 152 (Select committees related to government departments) be amended, by leaving out items 1, 4, 5 and 13 in the Table in paragraph (2) and inserting the following items at the appropriate places: ‘Education and Skills/Department for Education and Skills/11'; ‘Environment, Food and Rural Affairs/Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs/17'; ‘Transport, Local Government and the Regions/Department for Transport, Local Government and the Regions/17'; and ‘Work and Pensions/Department for Work and Pensions/11'.
That the following amendments to Standing Orders be made: S.O. No. 146 (Select Committee on Public Administration): in line 29, at end add the following words: ‘(5) The committee shall have power to appoint a sub-committee, which shall have power to send for persons, papers and records, to sit notwithstanding any adjournment of the House, to adjourn from place to place, and to report to the committee from time to time. (6) The committee shall have power to report from time to time the minutes of evidence taken before the sub-committee. (7) The quorum of the sub-committee shall be three.'. Page 58 Thursday 5th July 2001 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top S.O. No. 152 (Select committees related to government departments): leave out lines 9 to 14, and insert the following words: ‘(3) Each select committee appointed under this order shall have the power to appoint a sub-committee, and the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee and the Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee shall have power to appoint two sub-committees.'. S.O. No. 152A (Environmental Audit Committee): in line 34, at end, add the following words: ‘(5) The committee shall have power to appoint a sub-committee, which shall have power to send for persons, papers and records, to sit notwithstanding any adjournment of the House, to adjourn from place to place, and to report to the committee from time to time. (6) The committee shall have power to report from time to time the minutes of evidence taken before the sub-committee. (7) The quorum of the sub-committee shall be three.'—(Mr Robin Cook.)
In the Table, in the column ‘Principal subject matter', leave out ‘Agriculture, Fisheries and Food', and insert ‘Environment, Food and Rural Affairs'. In the Table, in the column ‘Principal subject matter', leave out ‘Environment, Transport and the Regions', and insert ‘Transport, Local Government and the Regions'. In the Table, in the column ‘Principal subject matter', leave out ‘Scottish, Welsh', and insert ‘Scotland, Wales'. In the Table, in the column ‘Principal subject matter', leave out ‘Social Security', and insert ‘Work and Pensions'. In the Table, in the column ‘Principal subject matter', leave out ‘Education and Employment', and insert ‘Education and Skills'.—(Angela Smith.)
And the Question being again proposed:—The House resumed the adjourned Debate. And it being Seven o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned. Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Monday 9th July.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till half-past Seven o'clock, adjourned till Monday 9th July. [Adjourned at 7.30 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
(2) Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 85) on Invest to Save Budget Round 3 projects [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 129 and 130] [Mr Secretary Byers].
(2) draft Representation of the People (Form of Canvass) (Scotland) Regulations 2001 [by Act] [Mrs Secretary Liddell].
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Other Papers:
APPENDIX II Programming Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
[No. 15; WH, No. 4.] Thursday 5th July 2001. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000]. The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 10th July. [Adjourned at 6.33 p.m.
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