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Page 291 2001-2002 Volume 258 [No. 79.] Monday 14th January 2002. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Bill to be read a second time on Friday 12th April.
Committal (1) The Bill shall be committed to a Standing Committee. Programming of proceedings (2) All proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments or on any further message from the Lords) shall be programmed. Proceedings in Standing Committee (3) Proceedings in the Standing Committee shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion on Tuesday 5th February 2002. (4) The Standing Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on which it meets. Consideration and Third Reading (5) Proceedings on consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at Nine o'clock on the day on which those proceedings are commenced or, if that day is a Thursday, at Six o'clock on that day. (6) Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at Ten o'clock on the day on which proceedings on consideration are commenced or, if that day is a Thursday, at Seven o'clock on that day. (7) Sessional Order B (Programming Committees) made on 28th June 2001 shall not apply to proceedings on consideration and Third Reading—(Mr Phil Woolas); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr Fraser Kemp: 307. Tellers for the Noes, Dr Julian Lewis, Mr John Randall: 74. So the Question was agreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Office of Communications Bill [Lords], it is expedient to authorise— (a) the payment out of money provided by Parliament of— (i) any expenses of the Secretary of State under the Act; and Page 292 Monday 14th January 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top (ii) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums of money so payable under any other enactment; and (b) the payment of money into the Consolidated Fund—(Jim Fitzpatrick):—It was agreed to.
Resolved, That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Home Energy Conservation Bill, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of— (a) any expenditure of the Secretary of State in consequence of the Act; and (b) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums payable out of money so provided by virtue of any other Act.—(Mr Michael Meacher.)
And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then two minutes to Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.58 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(1) Improving student achievement in English higher education, and (2) Widening participation in higher education in England [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 486 and 485] [Clerk of the House].
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Firemen's Pension Scheme (Pension Sharing) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3691), and Import and Export Restrictions (Foot-and-Mouth Disease) (No. 14) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 4046) [by Standing Order] [The Speaker]. APPENDIX II Standing Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Inappropriate Adjustments to NHS Waiting Lists]; to be printed [No. 517-i] [Mr Edward Leigh]. [No. 80.] Tuesday 15th January 2002. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
That the Special Standing Committee recommends that two days be allotted for consideration and Third Reading of the Adoption and Children Bill. Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.
And the Motion being opposed, after a brief explanatory statement from the Member who made the Motion and from a Member who opposed it, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 23 (Motions for leave to bring in bills and nomination of select committees at commencement of public business):—It was agreed to. Ordered, That Peter Bradley, Ms Karen Buck, Mr Iain Coleman, John Cryer, Mr David Drew, Julia Drown, Clive Efford, Helen Jackson, Martin Linton, Mr Martin Salter, Mr Jonathan R. Shaw and David Wright do prepare and bring in the Bill.
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A Clause (Readiness of Primary Care Groups and Trusts)—(Mr Simon Burns)—brought up, and read the first time. Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—Clause, by leave, withdrawn. Another Clause (Community Health Councils: scheme for reform)—(Mr Simon Burns)—brought up, and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Dr Julian Lewis, Mr Laurence Robertson: 194. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Nick Ainger, Dan Norris: 323. Another Clause (The Health Inspectorate)—(Mr Oliver Heald)—brought up, and read the first time. Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—Clause, by leave, withdrawn. Another Clause (Establishment of Patients' Councils)—(Mr David Hinchliffe)—brought up, and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Kelvin Hopkins, John McDonnell: 222. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Nick Ainger, Dan Norris: 296. Another Clause (The Commission for Health Improvement: amendments to section 20 of the Health Act 1999)—(Dr Evan Harris)—brought up, and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Bob Russell, Annette Brooke: 52. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Nick Ainger, Dan Norris: 326. Amendments (Nos. 23 to 26, 74, 27 and 28) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 22) proposed to the Bill, in page 6, line 37, at the end, to insert the words ‘but no more than fourteen'.—(Mr Win Griffiths.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Other Amendments (Nos. 75, 29 to 39, 76, 77, 40 to 53, 78 to 81, 54, 55 and 82) made to the Bill. It being Ten o'clock, the Speaker, pursuant to Order [20th November], put the Question necessary to dispose of the remaining Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown. Other Amendments (Nos. 56, 83 to 85, 57, 58, 86, 59 to 61, 87 and 62) made to the Bill. The Speaker then put the Question, That the Bill be now read the third time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Angela Smith, Mr Ian Pearson: 324. Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Dr Julian Lewis: 201. So the Question was agreed to. The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till a quarter to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.45 p.m. Page 295 Tuesday 15th January 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
Papers withdrawn:
APPENDIX II Standing Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
[No. 80; WH, No. 43.] Tuesday 15th January 2002. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000]. The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 1.59 p.m. Page 296 Tuesday 15th January 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top [No. 81.] Wednesday 16th January 2002. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
That the Committee takes note of European Union Document No. 5771/01, a Communication from the Commission to the Council, the European Parliament, the Economic and Social Committee and the Committee of the Regions on the Sixth Environmental Action Programme of the European Community: ‘Europe 2010: Our future, Our choice', and a Proposal for a draft Decision of the European Parliament and of the Council laying down the Community Environmental Action Programme 2001–2010; considers that co-ordinated action at a Community level is the most effective way of addressing the main environmental objectives of the programme; welcomes the strategic approach; agrees with the objectives, particularly the identification of the four priority areas; endorses the emphasis on climate change as an outstanding challenge of the next 10 years and beyond; supports the Government's efforts to ensure that policy is developed on the basis of full analysis of the issues with consideration of the full range of instruments; endorses the Government's position that the programme should be ambitious yet achievable, and that where analysis has not yet been completed detailed targets should be set out in thematic strategies to be developed later; and supports the Government's aim that the programme should give a clear steer on improved and consistent implementation and enforcement. Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.
State of the Railways,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes the failure of the Government to tackle adequately the growing crisis on British railways; and believes that the salary of the Secretary of State for Transport, Local Government and the Regions should be reduced by 1.8 per cent. and that payment of a further 22 per cent. be withheld until 31st March 2003—(Mr Don Foster); An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word ‘House' to the end of the Question and add the words ‘believes that the railway infrastructure was badly damaged by decades of underinvestment and a flawed privatisation; recognises that the Government made tough decisions in the first two years of the last Parliament to deliver the economic stability that means it can put record levels of investment into the railways; notes that annual average total investment in rail over the 10 year plan will be £4.3 billion, compared to £1.4 billion for the period 1989/90–1996/97; congratulates the Government on its decisive action over Railtrack, so undoing a failed Conservative privatisation; welcomes the SRA's Strategic Plan that sets out an effective agenda for the railways; calls for the resolution of the present industrial disputes through negotiation not strike action; and believes that the steps taken have laid the groundwork for a railway system that will be fit for the 21st century', instead thereof.—(Mr Secretary Byers.) And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Bob Russell, Annette Brooke: 207. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Phil Woolas, Mr Graham Stringer: 339. So the Question was negatived. And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):—It was agreed to. Page 297 Wednesday 16th January 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to. Resolved, That this House believes that the railway infrastructure was badly damaged by decades of underinvestment and a flawed privatisation; recognises that the Government made tough decisions in the first two years of the last Parliament to deliver the economic stability that means it can put record levels of investment into the railways; notes that annual average total investment in rail over the 10 year plan will be £4.3 billion, compared to £1.4 billion for the period 1989/90–1996/97; congratulates the Government on its decisive action over Railtrack, so undoing a failed Conservative privatisation; welcomes the SRA's Strategic Plan that sets out an effective agenda for the railways; calls for the resolution of the present industrial disputes through negotiation not strike action; and believes that the steps taken have laid the groundwork for a railway system that will be fit for the 21st century. State of the Care System,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House believes that the underfunding of social care by successive Governments had led to bottlenecks and delays in the NHS, reducing health care capacity and increasing waiting times; further believes that it is the most vulnerable elderly who suffer the consequences of inadequate care; regrets that the piecemeal approach of the Government to hospital delayed discharge simply shifts the pressures from one part of the care system to another; condemns the Government for its mishandling and misunderstanding of the care home sector and the consequent loss of homes and beds; regrets that the failure to adequately fund social care has produced serious staff shortages and reduced choice and quality for those in need of care; and calls on the Government to undertake a whole system review of funding for social care to tackle staff shortages, increase capacity, promote choice and ensure that people get the right care at the right time—(Mr Paul Burstow); An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word ‘House' to the end of the Question and add the words ‘welcomes the Government's strategy for modernising social care services through unprecedented real terms increases in resources, which enables and promotes better joint working between the NHS, social services, and the independent care sectors, develops a national framework for standards and quality and ensures a greater emphasis on users and patients in the design and delivery of services; notes that this has led to more independence for older people, fairer funding of long term care, reduced levels of delayed discharge and greater choice for users; and condemns the Liberal Democrats for their obsession with producer interests over those of users and patients and their failure to recognise that investment must be matched by reform', instead thereof.—(Jacqui Smith.) And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, John Thurso, Annette Brooke: 60. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr John Heppell: 314. So the Question was negatived. And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr John Heppell: 301. Tellers for the Noes, John Thurso, Annette Brooke: 60. So the Question was agreed to. The Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to. Resolved, That this House welcomes the Government's strategy for modernising social care services through unprecedented real terms increases in resources, which enables and promotes better joint working between the NHS, social services, and the independent care sectors, develops a national framework for standards and quality and ensures a greater emphasis on users and patients in the design and delivery of services; notes that this has led to more independence for older people, fairer funding of long term care, reduced levels of delayed discharge and greater choice for users; and condemns the Liberal Democrats for their obsession with producer interests over those of users and patients and their failure to recognise that investment must be matched by reform.
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And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till six minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.54 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Other Papers:
(1) VIII (International Development), and (2) XI (Culture, Media and Sport), with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor-General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 335-VIII and -XI] [Mr Paul Boateng].
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(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee E, and has appointed Mr Roger Gale, Mr George Stevenson and Miss Ann Widdecombe Chairmen; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty-three Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Douglas Alexander, Mr Richard Allan, Mr Adrian Bailey, Mr Chris Bryant, Mrs Helen Clark, Michael Fabricant, Paul Farrelly, Mr John Grogan, Nick Harvey, Dr Kim Howells, Mr Fraser Kemp, Miss Julie Kirkbride, Martin Linton, Miss Anne McIntosh, Mr Andrew Miller, Mr Ian Pearson, Mr Bill Rammell, Mr Laurence Robertson, Mr Ian Taylor, Mr Simon Thomas, Angela Watkinson, Brian White and Derek Wyatt.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Peter Pike Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Crispin Blunt, Mrs Patsy Calton, Jim Dobbin, Jim Dowd, Mr Mark Francois, Jane Griffiths, Mr John Hayes, Lady Hermon, Jane Kennedy, Siobhain McDonagh, John McDonnell, Shona McIsaac, Dr Nick Palmer, Mr Graham Stringer, Mr Andrew Turner and Mr Tom Watson.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Eric Illsley Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Ms Karen Buck, Dr Vincent Cable, Mr Michael Clapham, Brian Cotter, Mr Philip Hammond, Mr Charles Hendry, Alan Johnson, Mr Bob Laxton, Ms Meg Munn, Mr Ian Pearson, Mr Dennis Skinner, David Taylor, Paddy Tipping, Mr Mark Todd, Mr Andrew Tyrie and Angela Watkinson. Page 299 Wednesday 16th January 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Mr Colin Breed, David Burnside, Mr David Drew, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, David Hamilton, Mr Lindsay Hoyle, Mr Eric Martlew, Mr Elliot Morley, Anne Picking, Mr Terry Rooney, Mr Mark Simmonds, Mr Keith Simpson, Mr Hugo Swire, Mr Paul Truswell and Mr Mike Wood.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr John Cummings Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Kevin Barron, Barbara Follett, Mr John Greenway, Nick Harvey, Mr David Heyes, Dr Kim Howells, Mr Kevan Jones, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr Mark Prisk, Mr Bill Rammell, Hugh Robertson, John Robertson, Mr Laurence Robertson, Bob Russell, Mr Alan Simpson and Mr Robert N. Wareing.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Order to the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr David Chidgey Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Norman Baker, Richard Burden, Geraint Davies, Mr Adrian Flook, Mr George Galloway, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Matthew Green, Miss Julie Kirkbride, Mr John Lyons, Andrew Mackinlay, Fiona Mactaggart, Mr Elliot Morley, Mr Andy Reed, Mr Malcolm Savidge and Mrs Ann Winterton.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr John Butterfill Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Harold Best, Mr Paul Burstow, Mr David Cameron, Sir Sydney Chapman, Dr Jack Cunningham, Mr Bill Etherington, Jim Fitzpatrick, Tim Loughton, Mr Andrew Love, Albert Owen, Jacqui Smith, The Reverend Martin Smyth, Mr Gerry Steinberg, Mr Keith Vaz, Mr David Wilshire and Mr James Wray.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Ninth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr James Cran Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Tony Banks, Peter Bottomley, Colin Burgon, Mr Simon Burns, Mr Ronnie Campbell, Ross Cranston, Michael Fabricant, Jim Fitzpatrick, Dr Evan Harris, Norman Lamb, Mr Andrew Love, Dr Doug Naysmith, Mr Jonathan R. Shaw, Ms Debra Shipley, Jacqui Smith and Mr David Wilshire. European Standing Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
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(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Individual Learning Accounts; Further Education: Follow-up] [Mr Barry Sheerman].
(2) Thirteenth Report from the Committee [Appointment of Parliamentary Representatives to the Convention on the Future of Europe], together with an Appendix; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 152-xiii] [Mr Jimmy Hood].
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Royal Travel by Air and Rail] [No. 529-i] [Mr Edward Leigh].
(2) Memoranda laid before the Urban Affairs Sub-Committee of the Committee on 15th January [Tall Buildings]; to be printed [No. 482-II] [Andrew Bennett].
[No. 81; WH, No. 44.] Wednesday 16th January 2002. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000]. The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And it being Two o'clock, the sitting was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 2 p.m. Page 301 Wednesday 16th January 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top [No. 82.] Thursday 17th January 2002. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
That the Standing Committee recommends that two days be allotted for consideration and Third Reading of the Education Bill. Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.
That, if two days are allotted for consideration and Third Reading of the Adoption and Children Bill, the Special Standing Committee recommends that proceedings on consideration be brought to a conclusion two hours before the time at which proceedings on Third Reading are to be brought to a conclusion. Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.
Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 83]. Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 532].
Bill to be read a second time on Friday 15th March.
The Motion was, with leave of the House, withdrawn.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-nine minutes past Six o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 6.29 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
(2) draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Estelle Morris]. Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
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[No. 82; WH, No. 45.] Thursday 17th January 2002. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000]. The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 22nd January. [Adjourned at 5.02 p.m. [No. 83.] Friday 18th January 2002. The House met at half-past Nine o'clock. PRAYERS.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 25th January. Page 303 Friday 18th January 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top
And it being half-past Two o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till nine minutes to Three o'clock, adjourned till Monday 21st January. [Adjourned at 2.51 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(2) Closure of Prisons (H.M. Young Offender Institution Dover) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 78) dated 17th January 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].
Papers withdrawn:
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European Standing Committees
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