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Chronological Index
Alphabetical Index - Part I
Alphabetical Index - Part II
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[No. 89.] Monday 28th January 2002.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows: |
The Lords have agreed to the Sex Discrimination (Election Candidates) Bill, without Amendment.
The Lords have agreed to the European Communities (Amendment) Bill, without Amendment.
| 2 | Civil Defence (Grant) Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Civil Defence (Grant) Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee. |
A Clause—(Report on civil defence review)—(Mr A. J. Beith)—brought up, and read the first time.
Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—Clause, by leave, withdrawn.
Amendment (No. 2) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 21, at the end, to insert the words ‘only in respect of an increased determination'.—(Mr Tim Collins.)
Question put, That the Amendment be made.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Randall, Mr Julian Brazier: 156.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Jim Fitzpatrick: 257.
Another Amendment (No. 1) proposed to the Bill, in page 2, line 24, to leave out ‘2003' and insert ‘2004', instead thereof.—(Mr A. J. Beith.)
Question put, That the Amendment be made.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Bob Russell, John Thurso: 157.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Jim Fitzpatrick: 261.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the Bill be now read the third time;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Jim Fitzpatrick: 262.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Randall, Mr Julian Brazier: 155.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed.
| 3 | City of London (Ward Elections) Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the City of London (Ward Elections) Bill, as amended by the Chairman of Ways and Means. |
A Clause—(Exclusion of Crown Bodies)—(Sir George Young)—brought up, and read the first time.
Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time.
Sir George Young rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.
Question put, That the Question be now put.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Hugh Robertson, Mr Mark Field: 205.
Tellers for the Noes, Jeremy Corbyn, Mr Andrew Dismore: 46.
Question put accordingly, That the Clause be read a second time.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mark Field, Hugh Robertson: 200.
Tellers for the Noes, Jeremy Corbyn, Mr Andrew Dismore: 46.
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It being after Ten o'clock, further consideration of the Bill stood adjourned.
Ordered, That the Bill be further considered on Thursday.
| 4 | Barcelona Process and Assistance to Palestinian Society,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of European Union Documents Nos. 11381/00, the Commission Communication on ‘Reinvigorating the Barcelona Process', and 14778/00 relating to the Special Report by the Court of Auditors on the management by the Commission of the programme of assistance to Palestinian Society; and welcomes the Government's approach to EC assistance to Palestinian society and supports the Government's continuing commitment to the Barcelona Process—(Dan Norris):—It was agreed to. |
| 5 | Convention on the Future of Europe,—Resolved, That, in the opinion of this House, Mr David Heathcoat-Amory and Ms Gisela Stuart should be the national parliamentary representatives from this House to the Convention on the Future of Europe.—(Dan Norris.) |
| 6 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Dan Norris.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till seventeen minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.43 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Deregulation,—Draft Deregulation (Bingo and Other Gaming) Order 2002, together with a statement by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell]. |
| 2 | Local Government Finance,—Local Government Finance Report (England) 2002–03 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 545] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 3 | Police,—Police Grant Report (England and Wales) 2002–03 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 533] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 4 | Animals,—Import and Export Restrictions (Foot-and-Mouth Disease) (No. 3) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 119), dated 25th January 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett]. |
| 5 | Food,—Foot-and-Mouth Disease (Marking of Meat, Meat Preparations and Meat Products) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 118), dated 25th January 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett]. |
| 6 | Housing,—Waltham Forest Housing Action Trust (Dissolution) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 86), dated 18th January 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
Other Papers:
| 7 | Appropriation Accounts, 2000–01,—Appropriation Accounts of the sums granted by Parliament for 2000–01 for Classes: |
(1) VII (Foreign and Commonwealth Office),
(2) XII (Department of Social Security), and
(3) XV (Northern Ireland)
[by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 335-VII, -XII and -XV] [Mr Paul Boateng].
| 8 | Defence Executive Agencies,—Report and Accounts of the Defence Analytical Services Agency for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 468] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. |
| 9 | National Audit,—Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on HM Prison Service: Reducing Prisoner Reoffending [by Act]; to be printed [No. 548] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 10 | Public Petitions,—Observations by the Secretary of State for Defence on the Petition [10th January] from Bristol and West Region Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament against the use of the Fylingdales and Menwith Hill bases as part of a United States missile defence system [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House]. |
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| 11 | Social Security Fraud,—Code of Practice on Obtaining Information, issued by the Secretary of State under section 3(1) of the Social Security Fraud Act 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Justice (Northern Ireland) Bill,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Kevin McNamara from Standing Committee F (nominated in respect of the Justice (Northern Ireland) Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr Tony McWalter. |
| 2 | National Care Standards Commission (Registration) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3969) and the National Care Standards Commission (Fees and Frequency of Inspections) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3980),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Andrew Love and Albert Owen from the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Ms Claire Ward and Mr David Stewart. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Public Accounts,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [Widening Participation in Higher Education in England]; to be printed [No. 581-i] [Mr Edward Leigh]. |
| 2 | Trade and Industry,—Second Report from the Trade and Industry Committee [Security of Energy Supply], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 364] [Mr Martin O'Neill]. |
| 3 | Welsh Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Welsh Affairs Committee [Objective 1 European Funding for Wales]; to be printed [No. 520-iii] [Mr Martyn Jones]. |
THE SPEAKER'S CERTIFICATE
| | The Speaker certified that the Civil Defence (Grant) Bill is a Money Bill within the meaning of the Parliament Act 1911. |
[No. 90.] Tuesday 29th January 2002.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Land at Palace Avenue, Kensington (Acquisition of Freehold) Bill,—The Land at Palace Avenue, Kensington (Acquisition of Freehold) Bill was read a second time and referred to the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills. |
| 2 | London Development Agency Bill,—Ordered, That the London Development Agency Bill be read a second time on Wednesday 6th February. |
| 3 | Mersey Tunnels Bill,—Ordered, That the Mersey Tunnels Bill be read a second time on Thursday 7th February. |
| 4 | Deregulation and Regulatory Reform,—Mr Peter Pike reported from the Deregulation and Regulatory Reform Committee the following Resolution: |
That the proposal for the Regulatory Reform (Voluntary Aided Schools Liabilities and Funding) (England) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 20th November, should be amended before a draft Order is laid before the House.
| 5 | Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr John Butterfill reported from the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the National Care Standards Commission (Registration) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3969) and the National Care Standards Commission (Fees and Frequency of Inspections) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3980). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
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| 6 | Road Safety and Speed,—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to make further provision for road safety measures in residential areas and for the indication of speed limits: And that Chris Grayling, Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody, Andrew Bennett, Mr Paul Goodman, Mr Mark Francois, Mr Mark Hoban, Mr Adrian Flook, Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger and Andrew Selous do prepare and bring it in. |
| 7 | Road Safety and Speed Bill,—Chris Grayling accordingly presented a Bill to make further provision for road safety measures in residential areas and for the indication of speed limits: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 10th May and to be printed [Bill 85]. |
| 8 | Opposition Day [9th allotted day],—It being an allotted day at the disposal of the Leader of the Opposition in pursuance of Standing Order No. 14 (Arrangement of public business), the House proceeded to consider Opposition business. |
The Government's Management of the Post Office,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes that under this Government the Post Office has gone from a profitable organisation to a business that is making half-yearly operating losses of £100 million, has the worst strike record of any business in the country and is consistently failing to meet its delivery targets; deplores its reported intention to abandon its morning delivery guarantee; condemns the Government for retaining Consignia in full public ownership while at the same time refusing to take any responsibility for its failures; further notes that in the last financial year another 547 sub post offices closed; regrets the Government's determination to press ahead with the withdrawal of benefit payments across the counter despite its failure to put in place any alternative source of income, thus threatening the survival of thousands more; and further condemns the Government's total mismanagement, which has created the crisis that is facing the Post Office today—(Mr John Whittingdale);
An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word ‘House' to the end of the Question and add the words ‘condemns the running down of the Post Office under 18 years of Conservative government, which saw 3,500 post offices close, hundreds of thousands of days lost through industrial action, a lack of investment which allowed the Post Office to slip behind its competitors, a failure to give the Post Office the commercial freedom it needed to invest and compete; congratulates the current Government for giving the Post Office commercial freedom to make its own decisions, enshrining the universal service obligation in legislation, establishing a new regulatory framework, bringing in new managers, modernising and supporting the post office network and encouraging partnership between employers and unions; and furthermore notes that Consignia invested £296 million in the last financial year, is addressing its cost base, strengthening its management and striving to achieve a world class service in Britain', instead thereof.—(Ms Secretary Hewitt.)
And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question;
David Maclean rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.
And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:—It was agreed to.
And the Question being accordingly put;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Dr Julian Lewis: 185.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 324.
So the Question was negatived.
And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments);
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 312.
Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Dr Julian Lewis: 191.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.
Resolved, That this House condemns the running down of the Post Office under 18 years of Conservative government, which saw 3,500 post offices close, hundreds of thousands of days lost through industrial action, a lack of investment which allowed the Post Office to slip behind its competitors, a failure to give the Post Office the commercial freedom it needed to invest and compete; congratulates the current Government for giving the Post Office commercial freedom to make its own decisions, enshrining the universal service obligation in legislation, establishing a new regulatory framework, bringing in new managers, modernising and supporting the post office network and
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encouraging partnership between employers and unions; and furthermore notes that Consignia invested £296 million in the last financial year, is addressing its cost base, strengthening its management and striving to achieve a world class service in Britain.
| 9 | Local Government,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Local Authorities (Mayoral Elections) (England and Wales) Regulations 2002, which were laid before this House on 19th December, be approved—(Dan Norris):—It was agreed to. |
| 10 | Adjournment (February),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 25 (Periodic adjournments), That this House, at its rising on Thursday 14th February, do adjourn till Monday 25th February—(Dan Norris):—It was agreed to. |
| 11 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Dan Norris.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till two minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.58 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Other Papers:
| 1 | Appropriation Accounts, 2000–01,—Appropriation Accounts of the sums granted by Parliament for 2000–01 for Classes: |
(1) I (Education and Employment), and
(2) IX (Trade and Industry and Export Credits Guarantee Department)
[by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 335-I and -IX] [Mr Paul Boateng].
| 2 | Armed Forces' Pay,—Thirty-first Report of the Armed Forces' Pay Review Body [by Command] [Cm. 5361] [The Prime Minister]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| Private and Voluntary Health Care (England) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3968) and the Care Home Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3965),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Ross Cranston and Dr Doug Naysmith from the Ninth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Richard Burden and Mr David Lepper. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Culture, Media and Sport,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Culture, Media and Sport Committee [Communications]; to be printed [No. 539-ii] [Mr Gerald Kaufman]. |
| 2 | Deregulation and Regulatory Reform,—Fourth Report from the Deregulation and Regulatory Reform Committee [The Proposal for the Regulatory Reform (Voluntary Aided Schools Liabilities and Funding) (England) Order 2002], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 583] [Mr Peter Pike]. |
| 3 | International Development,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Global Climate Change and Sustainable Development]; to be printed [No. 519-ii] [Tony Baldry]. |
| 4 | Statutory Instruments,—Seventeenth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 135-xvii] [Mr David Tredinnick]. |
| 5 | Transport, Local Government and the Regions,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Urban Affairs Sub-Committee of the Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee [Tall Buildings]; to be printed [No. 482-ii] [Andrew Bennett]. |
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[No. 90; WH, No. 49.]
Tuesday 29th January 2002.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000].
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
| Adjournment,—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 2 p.m.
[No. 91.] Wednesday 30th January 2002.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mrs Irene Adams reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Immigration and Asylum Appeals (Procedure) (Amendment) Rules 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 4014). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 2 | Ninth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr James Cran reported from the Ninth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Private and Voluntary Health Care (England) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3968) and the Care Home Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3965). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 3 | Scottish Grand Committee,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 100 (Scottish Grand Committee (sittings)), That the Scottish Grand Committee shall meet at Westminster— |
(a) on Wednesday 13th February at half-past Ten o'clock to consider a substantive Motion for the adjournment of the Committee; and
(b) on Tuesday 5th March at half-past Ten o'clock to consider a substantive Motion for the adjournment of the Committee—(Dan Norris):—It was agreed to.
| 4 | Police,—Resolved, That the Police Grant Report (England and Wales) 2002–03 (House of Commons Paper No. 533), which was laid before this House on 28th January, be approved.—(Mr John Denham.) |
| 5 | Local Government Finance,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the Local Government Finance Report (England) 2002–03 (House of Commons Paper No. 545), which was laid before this House on 28th January, be approved—(Mr Nick Raynsford); |
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Angela Smith, Dan Norris: 286.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr A. J. Beith, Annette Brooke: 40.
So the Question was agreed to.
Resolved, That the Local Government Finance Report (England) 2002–03 (House of Commons Paper No. 545), which was laid before this House on 28th January, be approved.
| 6 | Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from— |
(1) residents of Bromsgrove against the transfer of the eye clinics at the Alexandra Hospital, Redditch, and the Princess of Wales Community Hospital, Bromsgrove, to Kidderminster and Worcester, and
(2) residents of Croydon and others against the closure of East Croydon Crown Post Office
were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
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| 7 | Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Dan Norris); |
And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then sixteen minutes to Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.44 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Police,—Draft Police Act 1997 (Enhanced Criminal Record Certificates) (Protection of Vulnerable Adults) Regulations 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 2 | Local Government,—Local Authorities (Capital Finance) (Rate of Discount for 2002/03) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 110), dated 23rd January 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
Other Papers:
| 3 | Appropriation Accounts, 2000–01,—Appropriation Accounts of the sums granted by Parliament for Class V (Lord Chancellor's and Law Officers' Departments) for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 335-V] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 4 | British Trade International,—Resource Accounts of British Trade International for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 526] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 5 | Criminal Justice,—Resource Accounts of the Serious Fraud Office for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 572] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 6 | Crown Estate,—Resource Accounts of The Crown Estate for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 544] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 7 | Customs and Excise,—Resource Accounts of HM Customs and Excise for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 530] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 8 | Defence Executive Agencies,—Report and Accounts of the Queen Victoria School for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 120] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. |
| 9 | Fair Trading,—Resource Accounts of the Office of Fair Trading for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 538] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 10 | International Development,—Resource Accounts of— |
(1) the Department for International Development, and
(2) Department for International Development Overseas Superannuation Pensions
for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 512 and 514] [Mr Paul Boateng].
| 11 | Postal Services,—Resource Accounts of Postcomm for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 495] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 12 | Prison Service Pay,—First Report of the Prison Service Pay Review Body [by Command] [Cm. 5378] [The Prime Minister]. |
| 13 | Railways,—Resource Accounts of the Office of the Rail Regulator for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 490] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 14 | Sea Fisheries,—Report by the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs on the proceedings under sections 1 to 5 of the Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) Act 1967, for 2001 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett]. |
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| 15 | Treasury Solicitor,—Accounts of the Treasury Solicitor's Department for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 579] [The Solicitor General]. |
| 16 | Treaty Series (No. 4, 2002),—Agreement, done at Karachi on 14th September 1999, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan concerning Air Services [by Command] [Cm. 5364] [Mr Secretary Straw]. |
| 17 | Treaty Series (No. 5, 2002),—Exchange of Notes, done at Jakarta on 10th September and 29th October 2001, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Republic of Indonesia concerning Certain Commercial Debts (The United Kingdom/Indonesia Debt Agreement No. 3 (2000)) [by Command] [Cm. 5365] [Mr Secretary Straw]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Employee Share Schemes Bill: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee C; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Richard Bacon, Mr Adrian Bailey, John Barrett, Mr Edward Davey, Mr Jonathan Djanogly, Mr Peter Duncan, Mr Mark Field, Linda Gilroy, Mr Tom Harris, Mr Mark Lazarowicz, Mr Iain Luke, Rosemary McKenna, Ms Meg Munn, Dr Doug Naysmith, Mr Chris Pond and Dawn Primarolo.
| 2 | Industrial and Provident Societies Bill: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee G; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Richard Bacon, Andy Burnham, Dr Vincent Cable, Mr Christopher Chope, Mr Mark Francois, Linda Gilroy, Paul Goggins, Chris Grayling, Mr Mark Hendrick, Phil Hope, Ruth Kelly, Mr Andrew Love, Joan Ryan, Mr Gareth R. Thomas, Mr Dennis Turner and Richard Younger-Ross.
| 3 | Draft Contracting Out (Functions in Relation to Apsley House) Order 2002: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Russell Brown, Mr David Cameron, Mr Michael Connarty, Mr Jim Cousins, Nick Harvey, Alan Howarth, Dr Kim Howells, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr Stephen McCabe, Miss Anne McIntosh, Albert Owen, Mr Bill Rammell, Mr Laurence Robertson, Bob Russell, Mr Ian Taylor and Mr James Wray.
| 4 | Draft Air Navigation (Environmental Standards) Order 2002,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Kevan Jones from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Jon Owen Jones. |
| 5 | Private and Voluntary Health Care (England) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3968) and the Care Home Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3965),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Andrew Love from the Ninth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Ms Claire Ward. |
European Standing Committees
| 6 | European Union Document No. 11932/01, relating to the White Paper on the European Transport Policy for 2010 has been referred to European Standing Committee A together with European Union Document No. 12597/01, relating to Proposals for a Decision on Community Guidelines for the Development of the Trans-European Network. |
| 7 | European Union Document No. 13438/01, relating to a Community Strategy for Dioxins, Furans and Polychlorinated Biphenyls, has been referred to European Standing Committee A. |
| 8 | European Union Document No. 8237/01, relating to the status of third-country nationals who are long-term residents, has been referred to European Standing Committee B together with European Union Document No. 11803/01 relating to entry and residence of third country nationals for the purpose of paid employment and self-employed activities. |
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| 9 | European Union Document No. 14117/01 and Addenda 1–13, relating to the European Commission strategy paper on enlargement and reports on progress by applicants, has been referred to European Standing Committee B. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Defence,—(1) Part of the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Defence Committee [Defence and Security in the United Kingdom]; to be printed [No. 518-ii]; and |
(2) Memorandum laid before the Committee [Gulf Veterans' Illness]
[Mr Bruce George].
| 2 | Education and Skills,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Skills Committee [Individual Learning Accounts]; to be printed [No. 561-ii] [Mr Barry Sheerman]. |
| 3 | Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [The Future of UK Agriculture: Farming Beyond Subsidies?]; to be printed [No. 550-ii] [Mr David Curry]. |
| 4 | Environmental Audit,—(1) Second Report from the Environmental Audit Committee [Pre-Budget Report 2001], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 363]; and |
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Sustainable Energy]; to be printed [No. 582-i]
[Mr John Horam].
| 5 | European Scrutiny,—(1) Fifteenth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 152-xv]; |
(2) Sixteenth Report from the Committee [Animal Testing and Cosmetic Products], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 152-xvi]; and
(3) Seventeenth Report from the Committee [European Arrest Warrant], together with an Appendix; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 152-xvii]
[Mr Jim Marshall].
| 6 | Foreign Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee [Human Rights Annual Report 2001]; to be printed [No. 589-i] [Donald Anderson]. |
| 7 | Health,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Health Committee [National Institute for Clinical Excellence]; to be printed [No. 515-iii] [Mr David Hinchliffe]. |
| 8 | Public Accounts,—(1) Seventeenth Report from the Committee of Public Accounts [Ministry of Defence: Maximising the Benefits of Defence Equipment Co-operation]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 586]; |
(2) Eighteenth Report from the Committee [Inland Flood Defence]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 587]; and
(3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Improving Student Achievement in English Higher Education]; to be printed [No. 588-i]
[Mr Edward Leigh].
| 9 | Science and Technology,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee [Research Assessment Exercise]; to be printed [No. 507-ii]; and |
(2) Memorandum laid before the Committee [Cancer Research—A Follow Up]
[Dr Ian Gibson].
| 10 | Scottish Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Scottish Affairs Committee [Post Devolution News and Current Affairs Broadcasting in Scotland]; to be printed [No. 549-ii] [Mrs Irene Adams]. |
| 11 | Transport, Local Government and the Regions,—(1) Second Report from the Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee [London Underground], with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [Nos. 387-I and -II]; |
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(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Road Traffic Speed]; to be printed [No. 557-i]; and
(3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Committee [10-Year Plan for Transport]; to be printed [No. 558-i]
[Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
[No. 91; WH, No. 50.]
Wednesday 30th January 2002.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000].
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
| Adjournment,—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Mr Ben Chapman.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 1.59 p.m.
[No. 92.] Thursday 31st January 2002.
The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | City of London (Ward Elections) Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the further consideration of the City of London (Ward Elections) Bill, as amended by the Chairman of Ways and Means; |
Ordered, That the Bill be further considered on Thursday 7th February.
| 2 | Liaison,—Mr Alan Williams reported, pursuant to Standing Order No. 145 (Liaison Committee), That the Liaison Committee had directed him to report the following recommendation for the allocation of time for the consideration of Estimates on an allotted day (being the second allotted day in the present Session of Parliament): |
That a day not later than 18th March be allotted for the consideration of the following Supplementary Estimates for the financial year 2001–02:
Ministry of Defence in so far as they relate to the deployment of Ministry of Defence resources in the war against terrorism;
HM Treasury in so far as they relate to policy on environmental taxation.
Report to lie upon the Table.
| 3 | Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Bill Olner reported from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Air Navigation (Environmental Standards) Order 2002. |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 4 | Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Bill [Lords] (Programme) (No. 2),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [28th June], That, pursuant to the report of 24th January from Standing Committee D, the Order of 8th January (Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Bill [Lords] (Programme)) shall be varied as follows— |
Consideration and Third Reading
1. Paragraphs 5 and 6 of the Order shall be omitted.
2. Proceedings on consideration and Third Reading shall be concluded in two allotted days.
3. Proceedings on consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at Nine o'clock on the second of those days or, if that day is a Thursday, at Six o'clock on that day.
4. Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at Ten o'clock on the second of those days or, if that day is a Thursday, at Seven o'clock on that day.
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5. An allotted day is one on which the Bill is put down on the main business as first Government Order of the day—(Mr John Heppell):—It was agreed to.
| 5 | Travel Concessions (Eligibility) Bill [Lords],—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Travel Concessions (Eligibility) Bill [Lords], as amended in the Standing Committee. |
Amendment (No. 2) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 5, at the end, to insert the words—
‘(1A) In section 94(1) of the Transport Act 1985 (administration of schemes: reimbursement, etc), after paragraph (a), there is inserted—
”(aa) the method by which the authority is to be reimbursed, whether through the Revenue Support Grant or otherwise, in respect of any expenditure arising from the operation of the Travel Concessions (Eligibility) Act 2002.”.'.—(Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown.)
Question put, That the Amendment be made.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Peter Atkinson: 128.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr Nick Ainger: 262.
Another Amendment (No. 4) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 21, at the end, to insert the words—
‘(4A) Subsections (1) to (4) above shall not affect the operation of any travel concession scheme more generous than that provided by section 145(1) (mandatory concessions outside Greater London) of the Transport Act 2000 and by section 242 (requirements as to scope of concessions which must be given if free travel scheme is not to have effect) of the Greater London Authority Act 1999 as amended by section 151(12) (concessions inside Greater London) of the Transport Act 2000.'.—(Mr Don Foster.)
Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Another Amendment (No. 3) proposed to the Bill, in page 2, line 5, to leave out from the word ‘on' to the end of line 7 and insert the words ‘the day six months after Royal Assent has been signified to the Act.', instead thereof.—(Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown.)
Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
The Bill was read the third time, and passed, with an Amendment.
| 6 | Agriculture (S.I., 2001, No. 3966),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, praying that the Environmental Impact Assessment (Uncultivated Land and Semi-natural Areas) (England) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3966), dated 10th December 2001, a copy of which was laid before this House on 11th December, be annulled—(Mr Peter Ainsworth):—It was negatived. |
| 7 | Line of Route,—Resolved, That this House approves the First Report from the Administration Committee, Session 2001–02, on The Summer Line of Route—The 2001 Opening and Proposals for the Future (House of Commons Paper No. 433).—(Mrs Marion Roe.) |
| 8 | Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows: |
The Lords have agreed to the Amendment made by this House to the Travel Concessions (Eligibility) Bill [Lords], without Amendment.
| 9 | Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Nick Ainger); |
And it being Seven o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.
| 10 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Nick Ainger.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-nine minutes past Seven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 7.29 p.m.
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APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Rehabilitation of Offenders,—Draft Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 (Exceptions) (Amendment) Order 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
| 2 | Terrorism,—Draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Continuance of Part VII) Order 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Reid]. |
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 3 | Education,—(1) Education (Mandatory Awards) Regulations 2001 (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 173), and |
(2) Education (Student Support) Regulations 2001 (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 174),
dated 31st January 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Estelle Morris].
| 4 | Local Government,—Local Authorities (Alteration of Requisite Calculations) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 155), dated 30th January 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 5 | Road Traffic,—Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (City of Southampton) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 126), dated 28th January 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 6 | Town and Country Planning,—Planning and Compensation Act 1991 (Amendment of Schedule 18) (England) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 116), dated 24th January 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett]. |
Other Papers:
| 7 | Appropriation Accounts, 2000–01,—Appropriation Accounts of the sums granted by Parliament for 2000–01 for Classes: |
(1) II (Department of Health),
(2) III (Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions),
(3) IV (Home Office),
(4) X (Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food and Intervention Board—Executive Agency),
(5) XVI (Departments of the Chancellor of the Exchequer),
(6) XVII (Cabinet Office and Central Office of Information) and
(7) XVIII, XVIIIB and XVIIIC (Office of the Parliamentary Commissioner, Parliament, etc; National Audit Office; Electoral Commission),
with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 335-II, -III, -IV, -X, -XVI, -XVII and -XVIII] [Mr Paul Boateng].
| 8 | Aviation and Maritime Security,—Report for 2001 by the Secretary of State for Transport, Local Government and the Regions under section 44 of the Aviation and Maritime Security Act 1990 on the numbers of notices served by him under section 19 of the 1990 Act, the number of directions given by him under sections 19, 21, 22, 23 and 24 of the Act, and the number of enforcement notices served by authorised persons under the Act [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 9 | Aviation Security,—Report for 2001 by the Secretary of State for Transport, Local Government and the Regions under section 23 of the Aviation Security Act 1982 as amended by the Aviation and Maritime Security Act 1990 on the numbers of notices served by him under section 11 of the 1982 Act as amended, the number of directions given by him under sections 12, 13, 13A and 14 of the amended Act, and the number of enforcement notices served by authorised persons under the amended Act [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 10 | Channel Tunnel Security,—Report for 2001 by the Secretary of State for Transport, Local Government and the Regions under Article 35 of the Channel Tunnel (Security) Order 1994 on the numbers of notices served by him under Article 11, directions given by him under articles 13, 14, 15 and 16 of the Order, and enforcement notices served by authorised persons [by Statutory Instrument] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
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| 11 | Cabinet Office,—Resource Accounts of Cabinet Office: Civil Superannuation for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 554] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 12 | Charity Commission,—Resource Accounts of the Charity Commission for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 565] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 13 | Defence Executive Agencies,—Reports and Accounts of— |
(1) Army Personnel Centre,
(2) British Forces Post Office,
(3) Defence Intelligence and Security Centre, and
(4) Service Children's Education
for 2000–01, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 546, 534, 584 and 511] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
| 14 | Education and Employment,—Resource Accounts of the Department for Education and Employment for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 551] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 15 | Environment, Transport and the Regions,—Resource Accounts of the Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 536] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 16 | Exchange Equalisation,—Exchange Equalisation Account for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 522] [Ruth Kelly]. |
| 17 | Food Standards,—Resource Accounts of the Food Standards Agency for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 513] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 18 | Foreign and Commonwealth Office,—Resource Accounts of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 553] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 19 | Forestry,—(1) Reports and Accounts of Forest Research, and |
(2) Report and Resource Accounts of the Forestry Commission
for 2000–01, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 247 and 246] [Secretary Margaret Beckett], and
(3) Resource Accounts for 2000–01 of the—
(a) Forestry Commission, and
(b) Forestry Commission Pension Scheme
with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 527 and 535] [Mr Paul Boateng].
| 20 | Government Trading Funds,—Resource Accounts of the Central Office of Information for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 566] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 21 | Health,—Resource Accounts of the Department of Health for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 567] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 22 | Lord Chancellor's Department,—Resource Accounts of the Lord Chancellor's Department for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 568] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 23 | Lord Chancellor's Department Executive Agencies,—Resource Accounts of the Northern Ireland Court Service for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 570] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 24 | National Audit,—Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on Ministry of Defence: The Joint Services Command and Staff College [by Act]; to be printed [No. 537] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 25 | National Health Service Pensions,—Resource Accounts of the National Health Service Pension Scheme (England and Wales) for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 569] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
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| 26 | Privy Council Office,—Resource Accounts of the Privy Council Office for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 571] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 27 | Prosecution of Offences,—Resource Accounts of the Crown Prosecution Service for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 540] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 28 | Scotland Office,—Resource Accounts of the Scotland Office (Office of the Secretary of State for Scotland) for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 531] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 29 | Social Security,—Resource Accounts of the Department of Social Security for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 491] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 30 | Teachers' Pension Scheme,—Resource Accounts of the Teachers' Pension Scheme for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 552] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 31 | Terrorism,—Report on the Operation in 2001 of Part VII of the Terrorism Act 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
| 32 | Transport, Local Government and the Regions Executive Agencies,—Report and Accounts of the Highways Agency for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 523] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 33 | Treasury,—Resource Accounts of HM Treasury for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 573] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 34 | Treasury Executive Agencies,—Resource Accounts of the Office for National Statistics for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 122] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 35 | Treasury Solicitor,—Resource Accounts of HM Procurator and Treasury Solicitor's Office for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 574] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Draft Contracting Out (Functions in relation to Apsley House) Order 2002,—The Speaker has appointed Mr John Cummings Chairman of the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Order. |
European Standing Committees
| 2 | The Speaker has appointed Miss Ann Widdecombe Chairman of European Standing Committee B in respect of the Court of Auditors Annual Report 2000 and two documents relating to sound financial management and fighting fraud (9208/01 and 9207/01). |
| 3 | The Speaker has appointed Mr Edward O'Hara Chairman of European Standing Committee B in respect of the 1976 Equal Treatment Directive (14492/01). |
Grand Committees
| 4 | The Speaker has appointed Mrs Irene Adams Chairman of the Scottish Grand Committee in respect of its meeting on Wednesday 13th February. |
| 5 | The Speaker has appointed Mr Jimmy Hood Chairman of the Scottish Grand Committee in respect of its meeting on Tuesday 5th March. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Ombudsman Issues]; to be printed [No. 563-i] [Tony Wright]. |
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[No. 92; WH, No. 51.]
Thursday 31st January 2002.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000].
The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
| Adjournment (Gibraltar),—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned—(Mr Ivor Caplin); |
And the sitting having continued for three hours, it was adjourned without Question put, till Tuesday 5th February.
[Adjourned at 5.45 p.m.
[No. 93.] Friday 1st February 2002.
The House met at half-past Nine o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Adjournment (Implementing the Learning Disability White Paper),—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Phil Woolas); |
The Motion was, with leave of the House, withdrawn.
| 2 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Phil Woolas.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-five minutes past One o'clock, adjourned till Monday 4th February.
[Adjourned at 1.25 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 1 | Council Tax,—Council Tax and Non-Domestic Rating (Demand Notices) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 180), dated 31st January 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 2 | Food,—Food and Animal Feedingstuffs (Products of Animal Origin from China) (Control) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 183), dated 31st January 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn]. |
| 3 | Public Passenger Vehicles,—Public Service Vehicles (Registration of Local Services) (Amendment) (England and Wales) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 182), dated 31st January 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| Draft Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 2002 and the draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 2002,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr David Ruffley from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Orders); and nominated in substitution Mr Nick Gibb. |
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