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Page 334 2001-2002 Volume 258 [No. 94.] Monday 4th February 2002. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Asylum: Bilateral Agreement with France,A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House deplores the failure of the Government over the past four years to negotiate with the Government of France on the re-application of the bilateral agreement on immigration to the case of asylum seekers; and calls on the Government to ensure a more equitable distribution within the EU of the responsibility for assessing and meeting the claims of potential refugees(Mr Oliver Letwin); An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word House' to the end of the Question and add the words notes that co-operation with France on immigration and asylum issues is greater now than it has ever been; recognises that there has been an overall drop from 13,527 in 2000 to 10,927 in 2001, a drop of almost 20 per cent., in the number of people crossing illegally to the UK from France; further notes that bilateral co-operation continues to address the problem of asylum seekers in Northern France, that the French have made significant investment in police reinforcements in the region and judicial action has been taken against human traffickers and that, as a result of the imposition of the civil penalty, the number of clandestine entrants was reduced by 27 per cent. in 2001; and further notes that the previous Conservative Government left the asylum system in complete disarray, with local authorities left to pick up the pieces', instead thereof.(Mr Secretary Blunkett.) And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Mr John Randall: 138. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 325. So the Question was negatived. And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):It was agreed to. The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to. Resolved, That this House notes that co-operation with France on immigration and asylum issues is greater now than it has ever been; recognises that there has been an overall drop from 13,527 in 2000 to 10,927 in 2001, a drop of almost 20 per cent., in the number of people crossing illegally to the UK from France; further notes that bilateral co-operation continues to address the problem of asylum seekers in Northern France, that the French have made significant investment in police reinforcements in the region and judicial action has been taken against human traffickers and that, as a result of the imposition of the civil penalty, the number of clandestine entrants was reduced by 27 per cent. in 2001; and further notes that the previous Conservative Government left the asylum system in complete disarray, with local authorities left to pick up the pieces. The Government's Pension Plans and Means-tested Benefits,A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House welcomes the Government's stated aim of increasing from 40 per cent. to 60 per cent. the proportion of pensioners' incomes which comes from the private sector, but notes with concern that the trend is in the opposite direction; deplores the regulatory burdens now placed on pension providers; condemns the Government for its failure to reform annuities; regrets the low level of saving and the decline of funded pensions; recognises that this poses a significant threat to the incomes of pensioners in the future; and further regrets that the Government's response is to increase the number of pensioners dependent on means-tested benefits(Mr David Willetts); An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word House' to the end of the Question and add the words welcomes the Government's framework for pensions which will reduce pensioner poverty and encourage saving; further welcomes the fact that pension savings are now at record levels and the increased choice given by stakeholder pensions; further welcomes the Government's decision to set up the Pickering review; and congratulates the Government on the extra £6 billion paid to pensioners from April and its intention to bring in the Pension Credit which will increase the incomes of around half of all pensioners', instead thereof.(Mr Secretary Darling.) Page 335 Monday 4th February 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Randall, Mr Julian Brazier: 175. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr Phil Woolas: 296. So the Question was negatived. And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr Phil Woolas: 290. Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Randall, Mr Julian Brazier: 174. So the Question was agreed to. The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to. Resolved, That this House welcomes the Government's framework for pensions which will reduce pensioner poverty and encourage saving; further welcomes the fact that pension savings are now at record levels and the increased choice given by stakeholder pensions; further welcomes the Government's decision to set up the Pickering review; and congratulates the Government on the extra £6 billion paid to pensioners from April and its intention to bring in the Pension Credit which will increase the incomes of around half of all pensioners.
And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then two minutes to Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.58 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
Page 336 Monday 4th February 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top Papers withdrawn:
APPENDIX II Standing Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Effectiveness of the Reforms of European Development Assistance]; to be printed [No. 417-v] [Tony Baldry].
[No. 95.] Tuesday 5th February 2002. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
That the draft Deregulation (Restaurant Licensing Hours) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 24th January 2002, should be approved. That the draft Deregulation (Bingo and Other Gaming) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 28th January 2002, should be approved. The Committee came to these Resolutions without a Division. That the proposal for the Regulatory Reform (Golden Jubilee Licensing) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 28th November 2001, should be amended before a draft Order is laid before the House.
Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 91]. Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 593]. Page 337 Tuesday 5th February 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top
Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow. Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 607].
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Bill to be read a second time on Friday 19th April.
And the Motion being opposed, after a brief explanatory statement from the Member who made the Motion and from a Member who opposed it, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 23 (Motions for leave to bring in bills and nomination of select committees at commencement of public business):It was agreed to. Ordered, That Mr Edward O'Hara, Tom Cox, Mr Andrew Dismore, Mrs Jackie Lawrence, Andy Burnham, Mr Richard Allan and Mr Kevin McNamara do prepare and bring in the Bill.
Motion made, and Question proposed, That the Education Bill, as amended, be considered in the following order, namely, new Clauses relating to Part 1, new Clauses relating to Part 2, new Clauses relating to Part 3, new Clauses relating to Part 4, new Clauses relating to Part 5, new Clauses relating to Part 6, new Clauses relating to Part 7, new Clauses relating to Part 8, new Clauses relating to Part 9, new Clauses relating to Part 10, other new Clauses, Amendments relating to Clauses Nos. 1 to 18, Schedule No. 1, Clauses Nos. 19 to 35, Schedule No. 2, Clauses Nos. 36 to 38, Schedule No. 3, Clauses Nos. 39 to 48, Schedule No. 4, Clauses Nos. 49 to 53, Schedule No. 5, Clauses Nos. 54 to 56, Schedule No. 6, Clauses Nos. 57 to 62, Schedule No. 7, Clauses Nos. 63 to 66, Schedule No. 8, Clauses Nos. 67 and 68, Schedule No. 9, Clauses Nos. 69 to 71, Schedule No. 10, Clauses Nos. 72 to 115, Schedule No. 11, Clauses Nos. 116 to 143, Schedule No. 12, Clauses Nos. 144 to 147, Schedule No. 13, Clauses Nos. 148 to 150, Schedule No. 14, Clauses Nos. 151 to 180, Schedule No. 15, Clause No. 181, Schedule No. 16, Clause No. 182, Schedule No. 17, Clauses Nos. 183 to 188, Schedule No. 18, Clauses Nos. 189 to 192, Schedule No. 19, Clauses Nos. 193 to 198, Schedule No. 20, Clauses Nos. 199 to 209, Schedules Nos. 21 and 22, new Schedules(Mr John Heppell); An Amendment [without notice] proposed to the Question, in line 3, to leave out the words new Clauses relating to Part 3' and insert the words New Clauses Nos. 1 and 2, New Clause No. 18, New Clauses Nos. 3 and 4, New Clauses Nos. 7 to 9, New Clause No. 12', instead thereof.(Mr Stephen Timms.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. Page 338 Tuesday 5th February 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Jim Fitzpatrick, Dan Norris: 315. Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Dr Julian Lewis: 178. Main Question, as amended, put. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Jim Fitzpatrick, Dan Norris: 312. Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Dr Julian Lewis: 169. Ordered, That the Education Bill, as amended, be considered in the following order, namely, new Clauses relating to Part 1, new Clauses relating to Part 2, New Clauses Nos. 1 and 2, New Clause No. 18, New Clauses Nos. 3 and 4, New Clauses Nos. 7 to 9, New Clause No. 12, new Clauses relating to Part 4, new Clauses relating to Part 5, new Clauses relating to Part 6, new Clauses relating to Part 7, new Clauses relating to Part 8, new Clauses relating to Part 9, new Clauses relating to Part 10, other new Clauses, Amendments relating to Clauses Nos. 1 to 18, Schedule No. 1, Clauses Nos. 19 to 35, Schedule No. 2, Clauses Nos. 36 to 38, Schedule No. 3, Clauses Nos. 39 to 48, Schedule No. 4, Clauses Nos. 49 to 53, Schedule No. 5, Clauses Nos. 54 to 56, Schedule No. 6, Clauses Nos. 57 to 62, Schedule No. 7, Clauses Nos. 63 to 66, Schedule No. 8, Clauses Nos. 67 and 68, Schedule No. 9, Clauses Nos. 69 to 71, Schedule No. 10, Clauses Nos. 72 to 115, Schedule No. 11, Clauses Nos. 116 to 143, Schedule No. 12, Clauses Nos. 144 to 147, Schedule No. 13, Clauses Nos. 148 to 150, Schedule No. 14, Clauses Nos. 151 to 180, Schedule No. 15, Clause No. 181, Schedule No. 16, Clause No. 182, Schedule No. 17, Clauses Nos. 183 to 188, Schedule No. 18, Clauses Nos. 189 to 192, Schedule No. 19, Clauses Nos. 193 to 198, Schedule No. 20, Clauses Nos. 199 to 209, Schedules Nos. 21 and 22, new Schedules. A Clause (Power of LEA to innovate without permission of the Secretary of State)(Mr Phil Willis)brought up, and read the first time. Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:Clause, by leave, withdrawn. Another Clause (Power of school to innovate without permission of the Secretary of State (No. 2))(Mr Phil Willis)brought up, and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Bob Russell, Annette Brooke: 164. Tellers for the Noes, Angela Smith, Mr Graham Stringer: 315. Ordered, That further consideration of the Bill be now adjourned.(Mrs Anne McGuire.) Bill to be further considered to-morrow.
And it being Ten o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-two minutes past Ten o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.22 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Page 339 Tuesday 5th February 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top Other Papers:
(2) Consolidated Resource Accounts of the Food Standards Agency for 200001, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 594] [Mr Paul Boateng].
Foot-and-Mouth Disease (Marking of Meat, Meat Preparations and Meat Products) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 118), and Import and Export Restrictions (Foot-and-Mouth Disease) (No. 3) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 119) [by Standing Order] [The Speaker].
APPENDIX II Standing Committees
European Standing Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
Page 340 Tuesday 5th February 2002 2001-2002 Volume 258 Back to top (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Turkey]; to be printed [No. 606-i] [Donald Anderson].
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Urban Affairs Sub-Committee [Tall Buildings]; to be printed [No. 482-iii] [Andrew Bennett].
WESTMINSTER HALL
[No. 95; WH, No. 52.] Tuesday 5th February 2002. The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000]. The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 1.59 p.m.
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