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[No. 128.] Monday 15th April 2002.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Private Bills [Lords] (No Standing Order not previously inquired into applicable),—The Speaker laid upon the Table a Report from one of the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills, That, in the case of the following Bill, originating in the Lords and referred after the First Reading thereof, no Standing Order not previously inquired into is applicable thereto, viz.: |
HSBC Investment Banking Bill [Lords].
Bill to be read a second time.
| 2 | Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows: |
The Lords have agreed to the Amendments made by the Commons to the Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Bill [Lords], with an Amendment, to which they desire the concurrence of this House.
| 3 | Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Bill [Lords],—Lords consequential Amendment to the Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Bill [Lords] to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 120]. |
| 4 | Electoral Fraud (Northern Ireland) Bill (Programme) (No. 2),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the following provisions shall apply to the Electoral Fraud (Northern Ireland) Bill for the purpose of supplementing the Order of 10th July 2001: |
Consideration of Lords Amendments
1. Proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments to the Bill shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at Seven o'clock on the day on which those proceedings are commenced.
Subsequent stages
2. The proceedings on any further Message from the Lords shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement—(Mr Desmond Browne);
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Heppell, Mr Graham Stringer: 274.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Julian Brazier, Mr Desmond Swayne: 162.
So the Question was agreed to.
| 5 | Electoral Fraud (Northern Ireland) Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Amendments to the Electoral Fraud (Northern Ireland) Bill. |
Lords Amendment No. 1 was agreed to.
It being Seven o'clock, the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [this day], put the Question, That this House agrees with the Lords in all their remaining Amendments:—It was agreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 2 to 16 were accordingly agreed to.
| 6 | City of London (Ward Elections) Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded further to consider the City of London (Ward Elections) Bill, as amended by the Chairman of Ways and Means. |
Amendment ((a)) proposed to the proposed Clause (Exclusion of Crown property), in line 1, to leave out from the word ‘department' to the word ‘shall' in line 2.—(John McDonnell.)
Question put, That the Amendment be made.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Andrew Mackinlay, Mr Andrew Dismore: 50.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr James Arbuthnot, Mr Mark Field: 357.
Question put, That the Clause be added to the Bill.
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The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr James Arbuthnot, Mr Andrew Mitchell: 341.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Andrew Dismore, Andrew Mackinlay: 44.
Amendments (Nos. 1 to 8, 149, 10 to 13, 15 to 17, 19 to 22, 25, 27, 29 and 30) made to the Bill.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the Bill be now read the third time;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr James Arbuthnot, Mr George Osborne: 278.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Andrew Dismore, John Cryer: 30.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed.
| 7 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Dan Norris.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till eighteen minutes to Nine o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 8.42 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Police,—Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (Codes of Practice) (Visual Recording of Interviews) Order 2002, dated 11th April 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 2 | Explosives,—Explosives (Fireworks) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2002 (S.R. (N.I.), 2002, No. 147), dated 11th April 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Reid]. |
| 3 | Local Government,—Local Authorities (Executive Arrangements) (Modification of Enactments) (England) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No.1057), dated11th April 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 4 | London Government,—Greater London Authority (Declaration of Acceptance of Office) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1044), dated 10th April 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 5 | National Health Service,—National Health Service (Clinical Negligence Scheme) Amendment Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1073), dated 11th April 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn]. |
| 6 | Plant Health,—Plant Health (England) (Amendment) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1067), dated 15th April 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett]. |
Other Papers:
| 7 | Broadcasting,—Report and Accounts of the Independent Television Commission for 2001 [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell]. |
| 8 | National Audit,—Reports by the Comptroller and Auditor General on— |
(1) Ministry of Defence: Redevelopment of MOD Main Building, and
(2) Winding-up The New Millennium Experience Company Ltd
[by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 748 and 749] [Clerk of the House].
| 9 | National Lottery,—Strategic Plans of the Community Fund for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland for 2002–2007 [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Enterprise Bill (Programming Sub-Committee),—The Speaker has appointed Dr Vincent Cable in place of Mr John Burnett as a member of the Programming Sub-Committee of Standing Committee B in respect of the Bill. |
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| 2 | Draft Veterinary Surgeons Act 1966 (Schedule 3 Amendment) Order 2002,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Parmjit Dhanda, Mr Brian H. Donohoe and Barbara Follett from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Adrian Bailey, Ms Meg Munn and Ian Lucas. |
| 3 | Local Government (Best Value) Performance Plans and Reviews Amendment and Specified Dates Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 305),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Peter Mandelson from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Khalid Mahmood. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Disposal of Refrigerators Sub-Committee of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [Disposal of Refrigerators]; to be printed [No. 673-iii] [Mr Michael Jack]. |
| 2 | Public Accounts,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [The Management of Surplus Property by Trusts in the NHS in England]; to be printed [No. 765-i] [Mr Edward Leigh]. |
| 3 | Science and Technology,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee [Science Education from 14 to 19]; to be printed [No. 508-iv] [Dr Ian Gibson]. |
[No. 129.] Tuesday 16th April 2002.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Joe Benton reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Veterinary Surgeons Act 1966 (Schedule 3 Amendment) Order 2002. |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 2 | Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr James Cran reported from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Local Government Pension Scheme (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 206). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 3 | Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows: |
The Lords have agreed to the Greenham and Crookham Commons Bill, with Amendments; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
| 4 | Health (Patients' Rights) Bill,—Ordered, That the Health (Patients' Rights) Bill be read a second time on Friday 19th July. |
| 5 | Organ Donation (Presumed Consent and Safeguards) Bill,—The Order for reading the Organ Donation (Presumed Consent and Safeguards) Bill a second time on Friday 19th April was read and discharged. |
Bill to be read a second time on Friday 21st June.
| 6 | Selective Schools (Transitional Arrangements),—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to establish that a maximum of five per cent. of pupils can be selected, by aptitude or ability, for admission to any state secondary school; to specify the period of time in which, and the means by which, those schools currently exceeding this percentage will be required to reduce their selective intake to five per cent.; to specify the criteria for such selection and the means by which schools should conduct assessments; and for connected purposes—(Mr David Chaytor); |
And the Motion being opposed, after a brief explanatory statement from the Member who made the Motion and from a Member who opposed it, the Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 23 (Motions for leave to bring in bills and nomination of select committees at commencement of public business).
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The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Lynne Jones, Dr Stephen Ladyman: 154*.
Tellers for the Noes, Michael Fabricant, Mr George Osborne: 112.
So the Question was agreed to.
Ordered, That Mr David Chaytor, Andrew Bennett, Valerie Davey, Mrs Janet Dean, Mr David Hinchliffe, Glenda Jackson, Lynne Jones, Dr Stephen Ladyman, Mr Tony Lloyd and Mr Chris Mullin do prepare and bring in the Bill.
| 7 | Selective Schools (Transitional Arrangements) Bill,—Mr David Chaytor accordingly presented a Bill to establish that a maximum of five per cent. of pupils can be selected, by aptitude or ability, for admission to any state secondary school; to specify the period of time in which, and the means by which, those schools currently exceeding this percentage will be required to reduce their selective intake to five per cent.; to specify the criteria for such selection and the means by which schools should conduct assessments; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 19th July and to be printed [Bill 121]. |
| 8 | Adjournment (The Middle East),—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Graham Stringer); |
And it being Ten o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.
| 9 | Division (Numbers incorrectly reported),—*Lynne Jones, being a Teller in the Aye Lobby in the Division this day relating to Selective Schools (Transitional Arrangements), came to the Table and informed the House that the numbers voting Aye had been erroneously reported as 163, instead of 154, which was the correct number. |
Whereupon the Speaker directed the Clerk to correct the number in the Journal accordingly: Ayes 154, Noes 112.
| 10 | Mental Health,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Mental Health Act 1983 (Remedial) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3712), dated 18th November 2001, a copy of which was laid before this House on 19th November, be approved—(Mr John Heppell):—It was agreed to. |
| 11 | Financial Services and Markets,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Regulated Activities) (Amendment) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 682), dated 14th March 2002, a copy of which was laid before this House on 14th March, be approved—(Mr John Heppell):—It was agreed to. |
| 12 | Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from residents of the parishes of Arncott and Piddington in Oxfordshire against the proposal to build an accommodation centre for asylum seekers in Bicester was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed. |
| 13 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr John Heppell.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-six minutes past Ten o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.26 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 1 | Education,—Government of Further Education Corporations (Revocation) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1094), dated 15th April 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Estelle Morris]. |
| 2 | Evidence,—Blood Tests (Evidence of Paternity) (Amendment) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2002 (S.R. (N.I.), 2002, No. 150), dated 15th April 2002 [by Act] [Ms Rosie Winterton]. |
| 3 | Immigration,—Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules [by Act]; to be printed [No. 735] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
| 4 | Police,—Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (Visual Recording of Interviews) (Certain Police Areas) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1069), dated 12th April 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
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Other Papers:
| 5 | Criminal Injuries Compensation,—Report and Accounts of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Appeals Panel for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 722] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
| 6 | Museums and Galleries,—Financial Statements of the Museum of London for 2000–01 [by Command] [Secretary Tessa Jowell]. |
| 7 | National Audit,—Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on the Construction of Portcullis House, the new Parliamentary building [by Act]; to be printed [No. 750] [Clerk of the House]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| Local Government Pension Scheme (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 206),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Fabian Hamilton and Mr James Wray from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Mr David Chaytor and Rob Marris. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Genetically-modified Organisms Sub-Committee of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [Genetically-modified Organisms]; to be printed [No. 767-i] [Mr Mark Todd]. |
| 2 | International Development,—Second Report from the International Development Committee [The Effectiveness of the Reforms of European Development Assistance], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [Nos. 417-I and -II] [Tony Baldry]. |
| 3 | Procedure,—(1) Second Report from the Procedure Committee [Appointment of Deputy Speakers], together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed, with Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 770]; and |
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Parliamentary Questions and Electronic Tabling of Questions and Motions]; to be printed [No. 622-iv]
[Mr Nicholas Winterton].
| 4 | Statutory Instruments,—Twenty-fifth report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 135-xxv] [Brian White]. |
| 5 | Trade and Industry,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [Postcomm's proposals for opening the postal market]; to be printed [Nos. 769-i and -ii] [Mr Martin O'Neill]. |
| 6 | Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [The Financial Regulation of Public Limited Companies]; to be printed [No. 758-ii] [Mr John McFall]. |
| 7 | Welsh Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Welsh Affairs Committee [Broadband Cabling in Wales]; to be printed [No. 676-iii] [Mr Martyn Jones]. |
[No. 129; WH, No. 72.]
Tuesday 16th April 2002.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000].
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
| Adjournment,—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Mr Ian Pearson.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 1.59 p.m.
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[No. 130.] Wednesday 17th April 2002.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Mersey Tunnels Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Mersey Tunnels Bill; |
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Wednesday 24th April.
| 2 | Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr John Cummings reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Local Government (Best Value) Performance Plans and Reviews Amendment and Specified Dates Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 305). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 3 | Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Miss Ann Widdecombe reported from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Social Security Amendment (Residential Care and Nursing Homes) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 398). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 4 | Fireworks Bill,—The Order for reading the Fireworks Bill a second time on Friday 19th April was read and discharged. |
Bill to be read a second time on Friday 21st June.
| 5 | Compulsory Voting Bill,—Ordered, That the Compulsory Voting Bill be read a second time on Friday 10th May. |
| 6 | Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report and Financial Statement and Budget Report,—Ordered, That there be laid before this House a copy of the Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report and Financial Statement and Budget Report, April 2002, as laid before this House by Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer when opening the Budget.—(Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer.) |
| 7 | Ways and Means,—Provisional Collection of Taxes,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 51 (Ways and means motions), That, pursuant to section 5 of the Provisional Collection of Taxes Act 1968, provisional statutory effect shall be given to the following motions:— |
(a) Rates of tobacco duty (motion No. 2);
(b) Vehicle excise duty (cars registered on or after 1st March 2001) (motion No. 14);
(c) Vehicle excise duty (motorcycles) (motion No. 15)—(Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer):—It was agreed to.
| 8 | Ways and Means,—Amendment of the Law,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed,— |
(1) That it is expedient to amend the law with respect to the National Debt and the public revenue and to make further provision in connection with finance.
(2) Subject to paragraph (3) below, this Resolution does not extend to the making of any amendment with respect to value added tax so as to provide—
(a) for zero-rating or exempting a supply, acquisition or importation;
(b) for refunding an amount of tax;
(c) for any relief, other than a relief that—
(i) so far as it is applicable to goods, applies to goods of every description, and
(ii) so far as it is applicable to services, applies to services of every description.
(3) Paragraph (2) above does not exclude the making of amendments with respect to value added tax providing for relief on the acquisition from another member State of any goods in relation to which, if they were imported from a place outside the member States, relief would be given by an order under section 37 of the Value Added Tax Act 1994—(Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer);
And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.
| 9 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Ivor Caplin.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-two minutes past Ten o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.22 p.m.
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APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Housing,—Draft Regulatory Reform (Housing Assistance) (England and Wales) Order 2002, together with a statement by the Department of Transport, Local Government and the Regions [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 2 | Value Added Tax,—Value Added Tax (Buildings and Land) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1102), dated 17th April 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 3 | Charities,—Draft Charities (Cheadle Royal Hospital, Manchester) Order 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
| 4 | Race Relations,—Draft Code of Practice on the duty to promote race equality [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
| 5 | Road Traffic,—Vehicle Excise Duty (Designation of Small Islands) (Amendment) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1072), dated 14th April 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 6 | Sports Grounds and Sporting Events,—Football Spectators (World Cup Control Period) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1096), dated 15th April 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
| 7 | Value Added Tax,—(1) Value Added Tax (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1074), dated 16th April 2002, |
(2) Value Added Tax (Consideration for Fuel Provided for Private Use) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1099), dated 17th April 2002,
(3) Value Added Tax (Construction of Buildings) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1101), dated 17th April 2002,
(4) Value Added Tax (Increase of Registration Limits) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1098), dated 17th April 2002, and
(5) Value Added Tax (Reduced Rate) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1100), dated 17th April 2002
[by Act] [Mr Paul Boateng].
Other Papers:
| 8 | Air Force (Constitution),—Amendment to Queen's Regulations for the Royal Air Force (Fifth Edition) [by Act] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. |
| 9 | Bank of England,—Notice given by the Treasury to the Bank of England specifying for the purposes of section 11 of the Bank of England Act 1998 what price stability is taken to consist of and what the economic policy of Her Majesty's Government is taken to be [by Act] [Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer]. |
| 10 | Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report and Financial Statement and Budget Report,—Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report and Financial Statement and Budget Report, April 2002, entitled The strength to make long-term decisions: Investing in an enterprising, fairer Britain [pursuant to Order this day]; to be printed [No. 592] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 11 | Finance,—Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on Audit of Assumptions for the 2002 Budget [by Act]; to be printed [No. 760] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 12 | Insolvency,—Accounts prepared pursuant to section 409 of the Insolvency Act 1986 of the sums received and paid by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry under section 403 of that Act, and of the sums credited and debited to the Investment Account by the National Debt Commissioners for the year ended 31 March 2001, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 772] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 13 | Miscellaneous (No. 7, 2002),—Convention, done at Paris on 5th October 1962, establishing a European Organisation for Astronomical Research in the Southern Hemisphere, with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Cm. 5493] [Mr Secretary Straw]. |
| 14 | Miscellaneous (No. 8, 2002),—Financial Protocol, done at Paris on 5th October 1962, annexed to the Convention establishing a European Organisation for Astronomical Research in the Southern Hemisphere, with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Cm. 5494] [Mr Secretary Straw]. |
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APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Draft Northern Ireland Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme 2002: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Scheme to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Alan Hurst Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Crispin Blunt, Mr Desmond Browne, Roger Casale, Mrs Helen Clark, Mr John Hayes, Lady Hermon, Alan Keen, Mr David Kidney, John McDonnell, Fiona Mactaggart, Gillian Merron, Lembit Opik, Mr Clive Soley, Mr Graham Stringer, Mr Hugo Swire and Mr Andrew Turner.
| 2 | Draft Court of Appeal (Appeals from Proscribed Organisations Appeal Commission) Rules 2002: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Rules to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr David Amess Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: John Austin, Mr Henry Bellingham, Mr Harold Best, Mr William Cash, Mr Mark Field, Barbara Follett, Kate Hoey, Simon Hughes, Mr John MacDougall, Fiona Mactaggart, Mr Gordon Marsden, Mr Mike O'Brien, Mr Stephen O'Brien, Mr Graham Stringer, Ms Rosie Winterton and Richard Younger-Ross.
| 3 | Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 97) (House of Commons Paper No. 721), on Local Government On-Line Funding to Local Authorities: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Report to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Joe Benton Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Richard Allan, Mr Graham Allen, Mr Julian Brazier, Jeremy Corbyn, Mr Parmjit Dhanda, Mr Frank Dobson, Jim Dowd, Mr Neil Gerrard, Linda Gilroy, Mr Malcolm Moss, Mr Andrew Rosindell, Mr Adrian Sanders, Jonathan Shaw, Mr John Taylor, Dr Alan Whitehead and Mr Phil Woolas.
| 4 | Local Government (Best Value) Performance Plans and Reviews Amendment and Specified Dates Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 305),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Linda Gilroy from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Dave Watts. |
| 5 | Social Security Amendment (Residential Care and Nursing Homes) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 398),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Jim Marshall from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Kali Mountford. |
| 6 | Draft Criminal Defence Service (Representation Order Appeals) (Amendment) Regulations 2002: |
(1) The Speaker has appointed Mr Peter Pike Chairman of the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Regulations; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Gordon Marsden from the Committee (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Laura Moffatt.
| 7 | Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 98) (House of Commons Paper No. 727) on Maintenance of Roads Grant 2002–03: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Report to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Joe Benton Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Sir Paul Beresford, Mr Clive Betts, Tom Brake, Mr Julian Brazier, Mr David Drew, Mr Don Foster, Chris Grayling, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Terry Lewis, Mr Malcolm Moss, Dr Doug Naysmith, Christine Russell, Mr Robert N. Wareing, Mr Dave Watts, Mr Shaun Woodward and Mr Phil Woolas.
| 8 | Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (Codes of Practice) (Visual Recording of Interviews) Order 2002: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Order to the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr James Cran Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Ms Diane Abbott, Mr Bob Ainsworth, Annette Brooke, Mr Chris Bryant, Mr William Cash, Tom Cox, Mrs Janet Dean, Michael Fabricant, Mr Edward Garnier, Simon Hughes, Mr David Lepper, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr George Mudie, Mr Stephen O'Brien, Dr Howard Stoate and Ms Gisela Stuart.
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European Standing Committees
| 9 | The Speaker has appointed Miss Anne Begg Chairman of European Standing Committee A in respect of European Union Documents Nos. 14130/01, 15238/01 and 6918/02 entitled, respectively, Fisheries: Total Allowable Catches and Quotas 2002, Fisheries: total allowable catches for deep-sea stocks in 2002, and Fisheries: access requirements for deep-sea stocks. |
| 10 | The Speaker has appointed Mr David Chidgey Chairman of European Standing Committee C in respect of European Union Documents Nos. 10427/00 and 15475/01 on Food Hygiene. |
Grand Committees
| 11 | The Speaker has appointed Mr Win Griffiths Chairman of the Welsh Grand Committee in respect of its meetings on Wednesday 24th April. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Defence,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Defence Committee [Defence and Security in the United Kingdom]; to be printed [Nos. 518-vii and -viii] [Mr Bruce George]. |
| 2 | Education and Skills,—(1) Second Report from the Education and Skills Committee [Standards and Quality in Education: The Annual Report of Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Schools for 2000–01], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 699], and |
(2) Memorandum laid before the Committee [Standards and Quality in Education: The Annual Report of Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Schools for 2000–01]
[Mr Barry Sheerman].
| 3 | Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [The Future of UK Agriculture: Farming Beyond Subsidies?]; to be printed [No. 550-viii] [Mr David Curry]. |
| 4 | European Scrutiny,—(1) Twenty-fourth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 152-xxiv]; and |
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Democracy and Accountability in the EU and the Role of National Parliaments]; to be printed [No. 347-xiv]
[Mr Jimmy Hood].
| 5 | Transport, Local Government and the Regions,—(1) First Special Report from the Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee [The Attendance of a Minister from HM Treasury before the Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee]; to be printed [No. 771]; and |
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Planning Green Paper]; to be printed [No. 476-iii]
[Andrew Bennett].
| 6 | Treasury,—Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee on 22nd January [LIFFE: Takeover by Euronext NV]; to be printed [No. 547-ii] [Mr John McFall]. |
| 7 | Work and Pensions,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Work and Pensions Committee [Medical Services], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed [No. 761-i] [Mr Archy Kirkwood]. |
[No. 130; WH, No. 73.]
Wednesday 17th April 2002.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000].
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
| Adjournment,—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Angela Smith.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 1.58 p.m.
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[No. 131.] Thursday 18th April 2002.
The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Land at Palace Avenue, Kensington (Acquisition of Freehold) Bill,—The Land at Palace Avenue, Kensington (Acquisition of Freehold) Bill was read the third time, and passed. |
| 2 | London Development Agency Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the London Development Agency Bill; |
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Thursday 25th April.
| 3 | Foreign Exchange Transactions Tax Commission Bill,—The Order for reading the Foreign Exchange Transactions Tax Commission Bill a second time to-morrow was read and discharged. |
Bill to be read a second time on Friday 19th July.
| 4 | Members of Parliament (Employment Disqualification) Bill,—The Order for reading the Members of Parliament (Employment Disqualification) Bill a second time to-morrow was read and discharged. |
Bill to be read a second time on Friday 21st June.
| 5 | Ways and Means,—Amendment of the Law,—The Order of the day being read, for resuming the adjourned Debate on the Question proposed yesterday— |
(1) That it is expedient to amend the law with respect to the National Debt and the public revenue and to make further provision in connection with finance.
(2) Subject to paragraph (3) below, this Resolution does not extend to the making of any amendment with respect to value added tax so as to provide—
(a) for zero-rating or exempting a supply, acquisition or importation;
(b) for refunding an amount of tax;
(c) for any relief, other than a relief that—
(i) so far as it is applicable to goods, applies to goods of every description, and
(ii) so far as it is applicable to services, applies to services of every description.
(3) Paragraph (2) above does not exclude the making of amendments with respect to value added tax providing for relief on the acquisition from another member State of any goods in relation to which, if they were imported from a place outside the member States, relief would be given by an order under section 37 of the Value Added Tax Act 1994;
And the Question being again proposed:—The House resumed the adjourned Debate.
And it being Seven o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Monday 22nd April.
| 6 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Ivor Caplin.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-eight minutes past Seven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 7.28 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 1 | Betting, Gaming and Lotteries,—Gaming Clubs (Bankers' Games) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1130), dated 17th April 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell]. |
| 2 | London Government,—Warrant Enforcement Staff Pensions Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1043), dated 10th April 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
| 3 | Telecommunications,—(1) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Eurocall Limited) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1071), and |
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(2) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Fibernet UK Limited) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1070),
dated 14th April 2002 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].
Other Papers:
| 4 | Access to Justice,—Direction by the Lord Chancellor under section 5(6) of the Access to Justice Act 1999, imposing requirements on the Legal Services Commission as to the services to be funded from specified amounts paid into the Community Legal Services Fund for 2002–03 [by Act] [Ms Rosie Winterton]. |
| 5 | Armed Forces' Pay,—Supplement to the Thirty-first Report of the Armed Forces' Pay Review Body: Service Medical and Dental Officers [by Command] [Cm. 5362] [The Prime Minister]. |
| 6 | Biological Standards,—Accounts of the National Biological Standards Board for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 768] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 7 | Health,—Paper, entitled Delivering the NHS Plan—next steps on investment, next steps on reform [by Command] [Cm. 5503] [Mr Secretary Millburn]. |
| 8 | Museums and Galleries,—Accounts of the Geffrye Museum Trust Limited for 2000–01 [by Command] [Secretary Tessa Jowell]. |
| 9 | Overseas Territories,—Overseas Territories (Zimbabwe) (Restrictive Measures) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1077), dated 17th April 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw]. |
| 10 | Telecommunications,—Licences granted under section 7 of the Telecommunications Act 1984 by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry to— |
(1) Eurocall Limited, and
(2) Fibernet UK Limited
[by Act] [Secretary Patricia Hewitt].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Draft Northern Ireland Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme 2002,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Roger Casale, Mrs Helen Clark, Mr David Kidney and Fiona Mactaggart from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Scheme); and nominated in substitution Tony Cunningham, Jim Dobbin, Joan Humble and Gisela Stuart. |
| 2 | Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 98) (House of Commons Paper No. 727) on Maintenance of Roads Grant 2002–03,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr David Drew and Mr Terry Lewis from the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Report); and nominated in substitution Mr Chris Bryant and Ross Cranston. |
| 3 | Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (Codes of Practice) (Visual Recording of Interviews) Order 2002,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Michael Fabricant from the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Adrian Flook. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | International Development,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Global Climate Change and Sustainable Development]; to be printed [No. 519-iv] [Tony Baldry]. |
| 2 | Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Public Appointments and Patronage]; to be printed [No. 686-iv] [Tony Wright]. |
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[No. 131; WH, No. 74.]
Thursday 18th April 2002.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000].
The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
| Adjournment (The Social Fund—Third Report from the Social Security Committee, Session 2000–01, and the Government's Response thereto),—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Jim Fitzpatrick.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 23rd April.
[Adjourned at 5 p.m.
[No. 132.] Friday 19th April 2002.
The House met at half-past Nine o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Industrial and Provident Societies Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Industrial and Provident Societies Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee. |
A Clause (Power to modify, etc. to assimilate to company law)—(Mr Gareth R. Thomas)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.
Another Clause (Channel Islands)—(Mr Gareth R. Thomas)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.
Another Clause (Annual fees)—(Mr Greg Knight)—brought up, and read the first time.
Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Greg Knight, Mr John Butterfill: 10.
Tellers for the Noes, Phil Hope, Rob Marris: 74.
Amendments (Nos. 2, 3, 1, 4 and 5) made to the Bill.
Title accordingly amended, as follows: A Bill to enable the law relating to societies registered under the Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1965 to be amended so as to bring it into conformity with certain aspects of the law relating to companies; to amend the procedure whereby such a society may convert itself into, or amalgamate with or transfer its engagements to, a company; and for connected purposes.
The Bill was read the third time, and passed.
| 2 | National Heritage Bill [Lords],—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the National Heritage Bill [Lords], as amended in the Standing Committee. |
A Clause (Compensation to affected parties)—(Mr Greg Knight)—brought up, and read the first time.
Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—Clause, by leave, withdrawn.
Amendment (No. 9) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 11, after the word ‘waters', to insert the words ‘and continental shelf'.—(Mr Andrew Dismore.)
Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Another Amendment (No. 19) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 19, at the end, to insert the words—
‘(4) For the avoidance of doubt, nothing in this Act shall permit any activity on or near any wreck prohibited by the Protection of Military Remains Act 1986.'.—(Mr Andrew Dismore.)
Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
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Another Amendment (No. 22) proposed to the Bill, in page 3, line 36, at the end, to insert the words—
'(1A) The Commission shall, before exercising its powers under subsections (1)(d) and (e) above, consult and thereafter take account of any representations made by the Government, or any equivalent body to the Commission, of the country concerned.'.—(Mr Andrew Dismore.)
Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
The Bill was read the third time, and passed, with an Amendment.
| 3 | Private Hire Vehicles (Carriage of Guide Dogs etc.) Bill,—The Private Hire Vehicles (Carriage of Guide Dogs etc.) Bill was, according to Order, read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee. |
| 4 | Housing Benefit (Withholding of Payment) Bill,—The Housing Benefit (Withholding of Payment) Bill was, according to Order, read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee. |
| 5 | Telecommunications Transmitters (Restrictions on Planning Applications) Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Telecommunications Transmitters (Restrictions on Planning Applications) Bill; |
And it being half-past Two o'clock, the Deputy Speaker interrupted the business.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 21st June.
| 6 | Christmas Day Trading Bill [Lords],—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Christmas Day Trading Bill [Lords]; |
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 10th May.
| 7 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Phil Woolas.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till one minute to Three o'clock, adjourned till Monday 22nd April.
[Adjourned at 2.59 p.m.
APPENDIX
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 1 | Education,—Education (Bursaries for School Teacher Training) (England) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1137), dated 19th April 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Estelle Morris]. |
| 2 | Housing,—Housing (Right to Acquire) (Discount) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1091), dated 15th April 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers]. |
| 3 | Magistrates' Courts,—Magistrates' Courts (Extradition) (Amendment) Rules 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1135), dated 18th April 2002 [by Act] [Mr Michael Wills]. |
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