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[No. 190.] Monday 21st October 2002.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Selection,—The Order of the day being read, for resuming the adjourned Debate on the Question proposed [16th October], That Mr John Hayes be discharged from the Committee of Selection and Mr Peter Luff be added to the Committee; |
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.
| 2 | First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mrs Marion Roe reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Railways (Interoperability) (High-Speed) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1166). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 3 | Tobacco Advertising and Promotion Bill [Lords],—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Tobacco Advertising and Promotion Bill [Lords], as amended in the Standing Committee. |
A Clause (Commission of body to study the effects of Act)—(Tim Loughton)—brought up, and read the first time.
Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Chris Grayling, Mr Desmond Swayne: 120.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr Bill Rammell: 329.
The Bill was read the third time, and passed, with an Amendment.
| 4 | EU Action Plan on Drugs,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of European Union Document No. 10207/01, Commission Communication on the implementation of the European Union Action Plan on Drugs (2000–2004); welcomes the mid-term review of the plan; and urges that it should be revised to ensure that priority is given to achievable, timebound targets that will contribute measurably to the European Union's contribution to the fight against drug abuse and trafficking—(Jim Fitzpatrick):—It was agreed to. |
| 5 | Northern Ireland,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Local Elections (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 11th July, be approved—(Jim Fitzpatrick):—It was agreed to. |
| 6 | Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from ‘Consumers for Health Choice' and others against restrictions on the availability of natural health products was presented; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed. |
| 7 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Jim Fitzpatrick.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-six minutes to Nine o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 8.34 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 18th October 2002 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O. No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 159 (Presentation of statutory instruments):
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 1 | National Health Service,—National Health Service Litigation Authority (Establishment and Constitution) Amendment Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2621), dated 17th October 2002 [Mr Secretary Milburn]. |
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Papers presented or laid upon the Table on Monday 21st October 2002:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 2 | Agriculture,—Products of Animal Origin (Third Country Imports) (England) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2639), dated 21st October 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn]. |
| 3 | Freedom of Information,—Freedom of Information (Additional Public Authorities) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2623), dated 17th October 2002 [by Act] [Yvette Cooper]. |
| 4 | Immigration,—Asylum Support (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2619), dated 16th October 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
Other Papers:
| 5 | National Audit,—Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on Helping victims and witnesses: the work of Victim Support [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1212] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 6 | Reserve Forces,—(1) Report under section 54 (7) of the Reserve Forces Act 1996 of a call-out order under section 54 (1) of that Act; and |
(2) Amendments to the Territorial Army Regulations 1978
[by Act] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
| 7 | Utilities,—Report and Summarised Accounts of the Gas and Electricity Consumer Council (Energywatch) for the seventeen months to 31st March 2002 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt]. |
Papers withdrawn:
| 8 | European Communities,—Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Stabilisation and Association Agreement between the European Communities and their Member States, and the Republic of Croatia) Order 2002 [laid 17th July]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Stabilisation and Association Agreement between the European Communities and their Member States, and the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) Order 2002,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Brian Jenkins, Christine Russell and Dr Phyllis Starkey from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Hugh Bayley, Ross Cranston and Mr Colin Pickthall. |
| 2 | Draft Data Protection (Processing of Sensitive Personal Data) (Elected Representatives) Order 2002,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Richard Allan from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Andrew Stunell. |
| 3 | Trunk Road Charging Schemes (Bridges and Tunnels) (England) Procedure Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 2303): |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Tom Brake, Colin Burgon, Mr Christopher Chope, Harry Cohen, Tony Cunningham, Geraint Davies, Mr Don Foster, Dr Hywel Francis, Mr Andrew Mitchell, Mr George Osborne, Mr John Randall, Syd Rapson, Joan Ruddock, Joan Ryan, Mr John Spellar and Mr Dave Watts.
| 4 | Road User Charging (Enforcement and Adjudication) (London) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 2313) and the Road User Charging (Charges and Penalty Charges) (London) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 2285): |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Adrian Bailey, Tom Brake, Mr Christopher Chope, Mr David Crausby, Mr Wayne David, Mr Don Foster, Alan Keen, Rob Marris, Mr Eric Martlew, Dr Doug Naysmith, Mr John Randall, Joan Ryan, Mr Mark Simmonds, Mr John Spellar, Mr David Tredinnick and Mr Dave Watts.
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Grand Committees
| 5 | The Speaker has appointed Mr John McWilliam Chairman of the Northern Ireland Grand Committee in respect of its meeting on Thursday 24th October. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Health,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Health Committee [Public Expenditure 2002]; to be printed [No. 1238-i] [Mr David Hinchliffe]. |
| 2 | Public Accounts,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [Ministry of Defence: Exercise Saif Sareea II]; to be printed [No. 1245-i] [Mr Alan Williams]. |
| 3 | Science and Technology,—(1) Sixth Report from the Science and Technology Committee [National Endowment for Science, Technology and the Arts: a follow-up], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 1064]; and |
(2) Seventh Report from the Committee [The Office of Science and Technology: Scrutiny Report 2002], together with an Appendix to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 860]
[Dr Ian Gibson].
| 4 | Welsh Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Welsh Affairs Committee [The primary legislative process as it affects Wales]; to be printed [No. 1242-i] [Mr Martyn Jones]. |
[No. 191.] Tuesday 22nd October 2002.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | London Development Agency Bill,—The London Development Agency Bill was read the third time, and passed. |
| 2 | Milford Haven Port Authority Bill [Lords],—The Milford Haven Port Authority Bill [Lords] was read the third time, and passed, with Amendments. |
| 3 | Selection,—The Order of the day being read, for resuming the adjourned Debate on the Question proposed [16th October], That Mr John Hayes be discharged from the Committee of Selection and Mr Peter Luff be added to the Committee; |
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.
| 4 | Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Edward O'Hara reported from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Stabilisation and Association Agreement between the European Communities and their Member States, and the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) Order 2002. |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 5 | Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Win Griffiths reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Merchant Shipping (Safety of Navigation) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1473). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 6 | Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows: |
The Lords have agreed to the Amendment made by this House to the Tobacco Advertising and Promotion Bill [Lords], without Amendment.
The Lords have agreed to the Amendments made by this House to the Milford Haven Port Authority Bill [Lords], without Amendment.
| 7 | National Nutrition,—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to provide for the establishment of a national nutrition strategy; to provide development funding for Primary Care Trusts to address the issue of diet and obesity; to establish a minimum requirement for physical activity in schools; to develop a system of food labelling to
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enable consumers to identify high-fat foods and total calorie content; and to make it a requirement for health warnings to be displayed on all packaged convenience food with a high-fat or sugar content: And that Ms Oona King, Sandra Gidley, Siobhain McDonagh, Julia Drown, Andy Burnham, Ms Debra Shipley, Geraint Davies, Dr Jenny Tonge, Miss Anne Begg, James Purnell and Mr Tom Clarke do prepare and bring it in. |
| 8 | National Nutrition Bill,—Ms Oona King accordingly presented a Bill to provide for the establishment of a national nutrition strategy; to provide development funding for Primary Care Trusts to address the issue of diet and obesity; to establish a minimum requirement for physical activity in schools; to develop a system of food labelling to enable consumers to identify high-fat foods and total calorie content; and to make it a requirement for health warnings to be displayed on all packaged convenience food with a high-fat or sugar content: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Thursday 7th November and to be printed [Bill 195]. |
| 9 | Affordable Housing,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes that the current crisis in affordable housing has reached such a level that there is a national need for more than 80,000 new affordable dwellings per annum for the next decade and beyond; regrets the failure of the present Government to take earlier action while welcoming additional funding for that housing announced in the Spending Review 2002 and recent measures to tackle homelessness; and believes that urgent action is needed better to link local and regional planning and housing policies, to bring back into use empty properties, to increase the density of housing developments, to encourage local authorities to implement fully PPG3 and to reform the right to buy to prevent abuses of the system, while resisting the Conservative Opposition's proposals for its extension—(Mr Don Foster); |
An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word ‘House' to the end of the Question and add the words ‘welcomes the additional funding for housing announced in the Spending Review 2002 and recent measures to tackle homelessness; and supports the action being taken better to link local and regional planning and housing policies, to bring back into use empty properties, to increase the density of housing developments, to encourage local authorities to implement fully PPG3 and to reform the right to buy to prevent abuses of the system while resisting the Conservative Opposition's proposals for its extension', instead thereof.—(Mrs Barbara Roche.)
And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Dr John Pugh: 50.
Tellers for the Noes, Jim Fitzpatrick, Charlotte Atkins: 447.
So the Question was negatived.
And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [17th October] and Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):—It was agreed to.
The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.
Resolved, That this House welcomes the additional funding for housing announced in the Spending Review 2002 and recent measures to tackle homelessness; and supports the action being taken better to link local and regional planning and housing policies, to bring back into use empty properties, to increase the density of housing developments, to encourage local authorities to implement fully PPG3 and to reform the right to buy to prevent abuses of the system while resisting the Conservative Opposition's proposals for its extension.
| 10 | Nuclear Power and Development of a Sustainable Energy Market,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes with concern the decision of the Government to put at risk over £600 million of public funds in order to prevent the bankruptcy of the privatised nuclear power company British Energy; further notes that several competitor companies in the deregulated market also face financial collapse and that some are petitioning for Government assistance; believes that nuclear power has been shown in a competitive market to be uneconomic as well as to generate long-term environmental costs in respect of waste disposal and decommissioning; further believes that it would be wrong for the Government to continue to bail out British Energy shareholders with a massive unplanned injection of public money or encourage new nuclear power projects; and calls on Her Majesty's Government urgently to bring forward its response to the PIU energy review, with measures to initiate a sustained long-term improvement in energy efficiency and conservation, and to facilitate the more rapid introduction of a variety of new renewable energy technologies as the favoured electricity generating source in the long-term, taking into account the Government's Kyoto targets and the Prime Minister's support for sustainable energy use at Johannesburg—(Dr Vincent Cable); |
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An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word ‘House' to the end of the Question and add the words ‘welcomes the publication earlier this year of the Performance and Innovation Unit's review of the strategic issues surrounding energy policy for Great Britain up to 2050; welcomes the Government's commitment to publish an Energy White Paper in the New Year setting out a long-term framework for energy policy following its recent extensive and innovative public consultation on energy issues; understands that British Energy's problems, and those of certain other players, are about companies rather than a way of generating electricity and welcomes the speed with which the market can respond to protect the interests of consumers; recognizes that the future of nuclear power in the UK is a question that has to be addressed on its own merits, not in the light of a particular set of circumstances surrounding a particular private sector company; further recognizes that it is not the responsibility of Government to bail out electricity suppliers unless it threatens safety or security of electricity supplies; and welcomes the work Government has done to promote sustainable energy use in terms of energy use reductions and to promote the development of renewable energy', instead thereof.—(Mr Brian Wilson.)
And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question;
Sir Robert Smith rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.
And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:—It was agreed to.
And the Question being accordingly put;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Sir Robert Smith, Mr Andrew Stunell: 54.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Heppell, Mr Jim Murphy: 313.
So the Question was negatived.
And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [17th October] and Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments);
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Heppell, Mr Jim Murphy: 293.
Tellers for the Noes, Bob Russell, John Thurso: 52.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.
Resolved, That this House welcomes the publication earlier this year of the Performance and Innovation Unit's review of the strategic issues surrounding energy policy for Great Britain up to 2050; welcomes the Government's commitment to publish an Energy White Paper in the New Year setting out a long-term framework for energy policy following its recent extensive and innovative public consultation on energy issues; understands that British Energy's problems, and those of certain other players, are about companies rather than a way of generating electricity and welcomes the speed with which the market can respond to protect the interests of consumers; recognizes that the future of nuclear power in the UK is a question that has to be addressed on its own merits, not in the light of a particular set of circumstances surrounding a particular private sector company; further recognizes that it is not the responsibility of Government to bail out electricity suppliers unless it threatens safety or security of electricity supplies; and welcomes the work Government has done to promote sustainable energy use in terms of energy use reductions and to promote the development of renewable energy.
| 11 | Countryside,—Ordered, That the Countryside (Provisional and Conclusive Maps) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1710), dated 7th July 2002, be referred to a Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation.—(Mr Ivor Caplin.) |
| 12 | Business of the House,—Ordered, That, at the sitting on Wednesday 23rd October, opposition business may be proceeded with, notwithstanding paragraph (2)(c)(i) of Standing Order No. 14 (Arrangement of public business), for three hours or until Seven o'clock, whichever is later, and proceedings shall then lapse if not previously concluded.—(Mr Ivor Caplin.) |
| 13 | Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from— |
(1) ‘Consumers for Health Choice' and others against restrictions on the availability of natural health products [two Petitions], and
(2) residents of Gloucester and others for greater regulation of air weapons
were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
| 14 | Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from ‘Consumers for Health Choice' and others against restrictions on the availability of natural health products was presented; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed. |
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| 15 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Ivor Caplin.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till three minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.57 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Other Papers:
| 1 | Agricultural Marketing,—Report of the Agricultural Marketing Schemes for 2001–02 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett]. |
| 2 | Competition Commission,—Report by the Competition Commission on the merger situation of Group 4 Falck A/S and The Wackenhut Corporation [by Command] [Cm. 5624] [Ms Secretary Hewitt]. |
| 3 | Criminal Justice and Court Services,—Report and Accounts of the Children and Family Court Advisory and Support Service for 2001–02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1208] [Ms Rosie Winterton]. |
| 4 | National Audit,—Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on Individual Learning Accounts [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1235] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 5 | Public Petitions,—Observations— |
(1) by the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs on the Petition [22nd May] from Mr A. Qayum and others for Her Majesty's Government to seek assurances from the Indian Government that those guilty of murder and violence in Gujarat will be brought to justice; and
(2) by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport on the Petitions [15th July] from users of Richmond Park and others against the planned closure of Pen Ponds car park
[by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].
| 6 | Sport,—Report and Summary Accounts of UK Sport for 2001–02 [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell]. |
APPENDIX II
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,—(1) Ninth Report from the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [The Future of UK Agriculture in a Changing World] together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [Nos. 550-I and -II]; and |
(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [The Future of UK Agriculture in a Changing World]
[Mr David Curry]; and
(3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Reform of the Common Fisheries Policy Sub-Committee of the Committee [Reform of the Common Fisheries Policy]; to be printed [No. 1252-i] [Mr Colin Breed].
| 2 | Foreign Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Biological Weapons Green Paper]; to be printed [No. 1248-i] [Donald Anderson]. |
| 3 | Home Affairs,—Fourth Report from the Home Affairs Committee [The Conduct of Investigations into Past Cases of Abuse in Children's Homes]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings relating to the Report [No. 836-I] [Mr Chris Mullin]. |
| 4 | Human Rights,—Twenty-third Report from the Joint Committee on Human Rights [Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Bill: Further Report], to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 1255] [Jean Corston]. |
| 5 | Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions,—(1) First Special Report from the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee [Government Response to the Tenth Report of the Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee (Ordnance Survey)]; to be printed [No. 1249]; and |
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(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Affordable Housing]; to be printed [No. 1206-ii]
[Andrew Bennett].
| 6 | Regulatory Reform,—Thirteenth Report from the Regulatory Reform Committee [The Proposal for the Regulatory Reform (Sugar Beet Research and Education) Order 2003]; to be printed; with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 1247] [Mr Peter Pike]. |
| 7 | Statutory Instruments,—Thirty-eighth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 135-xxxviii] [Brian White]. |
| 8 | Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [Split Capital Investment Trusts]; to be printed [No. 1089-ii] [Mr John McFall]. |
[No. 191; WH, No. 112.]
Tuesday 22nd October 2002.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000].
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
| Adjournment,—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Joan Ryan.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 1.59 p.m.
[No. 192.] Wednesday 23rd October 2002.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Selection,—The Order of the day being read, for resuming the adjourned Debate on the Question proposed [16th October], That Mr John Hayes be discharged from the Committee of Selection and Mr Peter Luff be added to the Committee; |
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.
| 2 | Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr John Cummings reported from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Northern Ireland Act 1998 (Modification of Enactments) Order 2002. |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 3 | Standing Committee on the Convention,—Frank Cook reported from the Standing Committee on the Convention, That it had considered the Third Report [24th July] and the Fourth Report [15th October] from the United Kingdom Representatives to the Convention on the Future of Europe. |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 4 | Waste Management Licences,—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to make further provision regarding waste management licences: And that Siobhain McDonagh, Mr Tony Banks, Caroline Flint, Laura Moffatt, Mr Barry Gardiner, Barbara Follett, Margaret Moran, Ms Oona King, Jeff Ennis, Mr Graham Allen, Martin Linton and Linda Perham do prepare and bring it in. |
| 5 | Waste Management Licences Bill,—Siobhain McDonagh accordingly presented a Bill to make further provision regarding waste management licences: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Thursday 7th November and to be printed [Bill 196]. |
| 6 | Opposition Day [19th allotted day—first part],—It being an allotted day at the disposal of the Leader of the Opposition in pursuance of Standing Order No. 14 (Arrangement of public business), the House proceeded to consider Opposition business. |
Government Management of the National Lottery,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes that since its creation in 1994 by the last Conservative Government, the National Lottery has raised over £12 billion for good causes; believes that the principle that Lottery money should not be used to fund projects
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that are the responsibility of the Government has been undermined by the establishment of the New Opportunities Fund and that this has also significantly reduced the money available for original good causes; further notes that grants made to organisations like the National Coalition of Anti-Deportation Campaigns and the Communities Empowerment Network have destroyed public trust in the Lottery, with the result that ticket sales are falling rapidly; and calls upon the Government to take urgent action to restore public confidence and to return the Lottery to its original purpose of raising money to support deserving causes that command widespread public support—(Mr John Whittingdale);
An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word ‘House' to the end of the Question and add the words ‘welcomes the fact that the Lottery has so far generated over £12 billion for investment in good causes and has brought much needed support for sport, the arts and heritage, charities, and organisations dealing with health, education and the environment; notes that the Lottery has created funds for projects to mark the new millennium; also notes that the typical constituency has received millions of pounds of Lottery funding, often transforming local communities and their economies; welcomes the contribution that Lottery funding has made throughout the United Kingdom; believes that Lottery players can have full confidence in the Lottery and in Lottery fund distribution; and welcomes the current review being undertaken by the Department of Culture, Media and Sport to ensure that the Lottery continues to make the fullest possible contribution to the nation', instead thereof.—(Secretary Tessa Jowell.)
And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question;
David Maclean rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.
And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:—It was agreed to.
And the Question being accordingly put;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Wilshire, Mr Mark Francois: 138.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Phil Woolas, Mr Fraser Kemp: 391.
So the Question was negatived.
And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):—It was agreed to.
The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.
Resolved, That this House welcomes the fact that the Lottery has so far generated over £12 billion for investment in good causes and has brought much needed support for sport, the arts and heritage, charities, and organisations dealing with health, education and the environment; notes that the Lottery has created funds for projects to mark the new millennium; also notes that the typical constituency has received millions of pounds of Lottery funding, often transforming local communities and their economies; welcomes the contribution that Lottery funding has made throughout the United Kingdom; believes that Lottery players can have full confidence in the Lottery and in Lottery fund distribution; and welcomes the current review being undertaken by the Department of Culture, Media and Sport to ensure that the Lottery continues to make the fullest possible contribution to the nation.
| 7 | Mersey Tunnels Bill (Suspension),—The Order of the day being read, for resuming the adjourned Debate on the Question proposed on 16th October, That the promoters of the Mersey Tunnels Bill shall have leave to suspend proceedings thereon in order to proceed with it, if they think fit, in the next session of Parliament, provided that notice of their intention to do so is lodged in the Private Bill Office not later than the day before the close of the present session and that all fees due up to that date have been paid; |
That on the fifth sitting day in the next session the bill shall be presented to the House by deposit in the Private Bill Office;
That a declaration signed by the agent shall be annexed to the bill, stating that it is the same in every respect as the bill presented in this House in the present session;
That on the next sitting day following presentation, the Clerk in the Private Bill Office shall lay the bill on the Table of the House;
That in the next session the bill shall be deemed to have passed through every stage through which it has passed in the present session, and shall be recorded in the Journal of the House as having passed those stages;
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That no further fees shall be charged to such stages;
That all petitions relating to the bill which stand referred to the committee on the bill, shall stand referred to the committee on the bill in the next session;
That no petitioners shall be heard before the committee unless their petition has been presented within the time provided for petitioning or has been deposited pursuant to Private Business Standing Order 126(b);
That, in relation to the bill, Private Business Standing Order 127 shall have effect as if the words ‘under Standing Order 126 (Reference to committee of petitions against bill)' were omitted.
And the Question being again proposed:—The House resumed the adjourned Debate.
And the Question being put;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Joe Benton, Tony Cunningham: 164.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Andrew Miller, Stephen Hesford: 64.
So the Question was agreed to.
Ordered, That the promoters of the Mersey Tunnels Bill shall have leave to suspend proceedings thereon in order to proceed with it, if they think fit, in the next session of Parliament, provided that notice of their intention to do so is lodged in the Private Bill Office not later than the day before the close of the present session and that all fees due up to that date have been paid;
That on the fifth sitting day in the next session the bill shall be presented to the House by deposit in the Private Bill Office;
That a declaration signed by the agent shall be annexed to the bill, stating that it is the same in every respect as the bill presented in this House in the present session;
That on the next sitting day following presentation, the Clerk in the Private Bill Office shall lay the bill on the Table of the House;
That in the next session the bill shall be deemed to have passed through every stage through which it has passed in the present session, and shall be recorded in the Journal of the House as having passed those stages;
That no further fees shall be charged to such stages;
That all petitions relating to the bill which stand referred to the committee on the bill, shall stand referred to the committee on the bill in the next session;
That no petitioners shall be heard before the committee unless their petition has been presented within the time provided for petitioning or has been deposited pursuant to Private Business Standing Order 126(b);
That, in relation to the bill, Private Business Standing Order 127 shall have effect as if the words ‘under Standing Order 126 (Reference to committee of petitions against bill)' were omitted.
To be communicated to the Lords, and their concurrence desired thereto.
| 8 | Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from— |
(1) striking workers of Friction Dynamex, Caernarfon, for removal of the eight-week limit on protection for striking workers, and
(2) ‘Consumers for Health Choice' and others against restrictions on the availability of natural health products
were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
| 9 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Ivor Caplin.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till a quarter to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.45 p.m.
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APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Industrial Organisations and Development,—Draft Potato Industry Development Council (Amendment) Order 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Secretary Margaret Beckett]. |
| 2 | Police,—Draft Functions of Traffic Wardens (Amendment) Order 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 3 | Income Tax,—Venture Capital Trust (Exchange of Shares and Securities) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2661), dated 22nd October 2002 [by Act] [Mr Paul Boateng]. |
| 4 | Road Traffic,—(1) Motor Cars (Driving Instruction) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2640), dated 20th October 2002; and |
(2) Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2641), dated 21st October 2002
[by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].
Other Papers:
| 5 | National Lottery,—Accounts of the Community Fund for 2001–02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1188] [Clerk of the House]. |
| 6 | Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions,—Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Pay and Allowances) Order 2002 [by Act] [Mr Robin Cook]. |
| 7 | Overseas Territories,—Overseas Territories (Zimbabwe) (Restrictive Measures) (Amendment) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2627), dated 22nd October 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw]. |
| 8 | Procedure,—Government Response to the Third Report from the Procedure Committee, Session 2001–02, on Parliamentary Questions [by Command] [Cm. 5628] [Mr Robin Cook]. |
| 9 | Resource Accounts, 2001–02,—Resource Accounts of National Savings and Investments for 2001–02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1200] [Ruth Kelly]. |
| 10 | Statutory Instruments (Notification),—Communication declaring that the undermentioned Statutory Instruments had come into operation before copies were laid before Parliament, and explaining why such copies had not been so laid before the Instruments came into operation: |
Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Modification) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2587), and
Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Suspension of Devolved Government) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2574)
[by Standing Order] [The Speaker].
| 11 | Trade and Industry,—Department of Trade and Industry Minute, dated 23rd October 2002, concerning a proposed contingent liability consequent upon indemnification for Regional Committee members of the Consumer Council for Postal Services (Postwatch) [by Command] [Ms Secretary Hewitt]. |
| 12 | Treaty Series (No. 60, 2001),—Fourth Supplementary List of Ratifications, Accessions, Withdrawals, etc., for 2001 [by Command] [Cm. 5635] [Mr Secretary Straw]. |
| 13 | United Nations,—(1) Somalia (United Nations Sanctions) (Channel Islands) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2629), and |
(2) Somalia (United Nations Sanctions) (Isle of Man) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2630),
dated 22nd October 2002 [by Act] [Yvette Cooper]; and
(3) Somalia (United Nations Sanctions) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2628),
(4) Somalia (United Nations Sanctions) (Overseas Territories) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2631),
dated 22nd October 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].
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APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Draft Double Taxation Relief (Taxes on Income) (The United States of America) Order 2002 and the draft Double Taxation Relief (Taxes on Income) (Lithuania) Order 2002,—The Speaker has appointed Mr Eric Illsley Chairman of the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Orders. |
| 2 | Draft Data Protection (Processing of Sensitive Personal Data) (Elected Representatives) Order 2002,—The Speaker has appointed Mrs Marion Roe Chairman of the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Order. |
| 3 | Draft Northern Ireland Act 1998 (Modification of Enactment) Order 2002,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Brian H. Donohoe, Dr Ian Gibson, Mr James Plaskitt and Mr Graham Stringer from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Ann Coffey, Helen Jones, Mr John Lyons and Shona McIsaac. |
| 4 | Draft Maximum Number of Judges Order 2002: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Roger Gale Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Norman Baker, Mr John Burnett, Andy Burnham, Yvette Cooper, Mr Jonathan Djanogly, Mrs Louise Ellman, Mr Neil Gerrard, Dr Ian Gibson, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr Doug Henderson, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr Tony Lloyd, Mr Gordon Marsden, Mr Mark Prisk, Mr John Smith and Angela Watkinson.
| 5 | Access to the Countryside (Provisional and Conclusive Maps) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1710): |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr George Stevenson Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Gregory Barker, Sir Paul Beresford, Peter Bradley, Mr Parmjit Dhanda, Mr James Gray, Chris Grayling, Matthew Green, Ian Lucas, Mr Peter Mandelson, Alun Michael, Chris Ruane, Mr Dennis Skinner, Jon Trickett, Mr Robert N. Wareing and Mr Roger Williams.
| 6 | Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Modification) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2587) and the Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Suspension of Devolved Government) Order 2002 (S.I., 2000, No. 2574): |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Orders to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Nigel Beard Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Peter Bottomley, Mr Desmond Browne, Jon Cruddas, Mr Quentin Davies, Huw Irranca-Davies, Helen Jackson, Mr John Lyons, Shona McIsaac, Mr Jim Murphy, Lembit Opik, Mr Ian Pearson, Mr James Plaskitt, Jim Sheridan, Mr Hugo Swire, Mr David Trimble and Mr David Wilshire.
| 7 | Draft Scottish Parliament (Elections etc.) Order 2002: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Miss Anne Begg Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr David Cameron, Mr Peter Duncan, Mr George Foulkes, Mr Eric Joyce, Mrs Jacqui Lait, Mr John MacDougall, Mrs Anne McGuire, Rosemary McKenna, Mr Jim Murphy, Sandra Osborne, John Robertson, Mr Laurence Robertson, Mr Ernie Ross, Mr Mohammad Sarwar, John Thurso and Pete Wishart.
European Standing Committees
| 8 | European Union Document No. 10665/02, relating to sustainable use of pesticides, has been referred to European Standing Committee A. |
| 9 | European Union Document No. 10625/1/02, relating to sound financial management and fighting fraud, has been referred to European Standing Committee B. |
Grand Committees
| 10 | Northern Ireland Grand Committee,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Crispin Blunt and Mr John Hayes from the Northern Ireland Grand Committee and nominated in substitution Mr John Taylor and Mr David Wilshire. |
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APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Culture, Media and Sport,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Culture, Media and Sport Committee [National Museums]; to be printed [No. 1228-i] [Mr Gerald Kaufman]. |
| 2 | Environmental Audit,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environmental Audit Committee [Pesticides: The Voluntary Initiative]; to be printed [No. 1209-i] [Mr John Horam]. |
| 3 | Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [The Water Framework Directive]; to be printed [No. 1237-i] [Mr David Curry]. |
| 4 | European Scrutiny,—(1) Thirty-ninth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 152-xxxix]; |
(2) Second Special Report from the Committee [Government Observations on the Thirtieth Report from the Committee, on European Scrutiny in the Commons]; to be printed [No. 1256]; and
(3) Third Special Report from the Committee [Government Observations on the Thirty-third Report from the Committee, on Democracy and Accountability in the EU and the Role of National Parliaments]; to be printed [No. 1257]
[Mr Jimmy Hood].
| 5 | Public Accounts,—Part of the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [Royal Mint Trading Fund: 2001–02 Accounts]; to be printed [No. 1184-i] [Mr Alan Williams]. |
| 6 | Science and Technology,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee [Towards a Non-Carbon Fuel Economy: Research, Development and Demonstration]; to be printed [No. 1240-i] [Dr Ian Gibson]. |
| 7 | Transport,—(1) First Special Report from the Transport Committee [Government Response to the First Special Report from the Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee, on The Attendance of a Minister from HM Treasury before the Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee]; to be printed [No. 1241]; and |
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Urban Charging Schemes]; to be printed [No. 1258-i]
[Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
| 8 | Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Sub-Committee of the Treasury Committee [Regional Spending]; to be printed [No. 1047-ii] [Mr John McFall]. |
| 9 | Work and Pensions,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Work and Pensions Committee [Social Security Advisory Committee]; to be printed [No. 1253-i] [Mr Archy Kirkwood]. |
[No. 192; WH, No. 113.]
Wednesday 23rd October 2002.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000].
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
| Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned—(Mr Nick Ainger); |
And it being Two o'clock, the sitting was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 2 p.m.
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[No. 193.] Thursday 24th October 2002.
The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Selection,—The Order of the day being read, for resuming the adjourned Debate on the Question proposed [16th October], That Mr John Hayes be discharged from the Committee of Selection and Mr Peter Luff be added to the Committee; |
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Monday 28th October.
| 2 | Northern Ireland Grand Committee,—Mr John McWilliam reported from the Northern Ireland Grand Committee that it had considered the proposal for a draft Access to Justice (Northern Ireland) Order 2002, referred to it on 17th October. |
| 3 | Adjournment (Local Government Finance Formula Grant Distribution),—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Phil Woolas); |
And it being Five o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put, pursuant to Order [17th October].
| 4 | Adjournment (Asbestos in the work place),—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Nick Ainger); |
And it being Seven o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.
| 5 | Business of the House,—Ordered, That at the sitting on Monday 28th October, the Speaker shall not adjourn the House until any messages from the Lords relating to the Enterprise Bill shall have been received.—(Mr Ivor Caplin.) |
| 6 | Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from— |
(1) residents of Chesham Bois and others against the closure of the Post Office in Chesham Bois, and
(2) ‘Consumers for Health Choice' and others against restrictions on the availability of natural health products
were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
| 7 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Ivor Caplin.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-nine minutes past Seven o'clock, adjourned till Monday 28th October.
[Adjourned at 7.29 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Northern Ireland,—Draft Northern Ireland Act 1998 (Designation of Public Authorities) Order 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Murphy]. |
| 2 | Regulatory Reform,—Draft Regulatory Reform (Removal of 20 Member Limit in Partnerships etc.) Order 2002, together with a statement by the Department of Trade and Industry [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt]. |
| 3 | Terms and Conditions of Employment,—(1) Draft Maternity and Parental Leave (Amendment) Regulations 2002, |
(2) draft Paternity and Adoption Leave Regulations 2002, and
(3) draft Statutory Paternity Pay and Statutory Adoption Pay (Weekly Rates) Regulations 2002
[by Act], with Explanatory Memoranda thereon [by Command] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].
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Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 4 | Local Government,—Local Authorities (Goods and Services) (Public Bodies) (England) (No. 3) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2624), dated 17th October 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott]. |
| 5 | Social Security,—Social Security (Claims and Payments and Miscellaneous Amendments) (No. 3) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2660), dated 22nd October 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith]. |
Other Papers:
| 6 | Defence Executive Agencies,—Report and Accounts of the Defence Dental Agency for 2001–02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1236] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. |
| 7 | Development of Tourism,—Report and Accounts of the British Tourist Authority for 2001–02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell]. |
| 8 | National Lottery,—Report and Accounts of the New Opportunities Fund for 2001–02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1180] [Clerk of the House]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Draft Scottish Parliament (Elections etc.) Order 2002,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mrs Jacqui Lait from the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger. |
Grand Committees
| 2 | Northern Ireland Grand Committee,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Lembit Opik from the Northern Ireland Grand Committee and nominated in substitution Mrs Patsy Calton. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Foreign Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee [Foreign Policy Aspects of the War against Terrorism]; to be printed [No. 1196-ii] [Donald Anderson]. |
| 2 | International Development,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Afghanistan: the transition from humanitarian relief to reconstruction and development]; to be printed [No. 1260-i] [Tony Baldry]. |
| 3 | Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Public Appointments and Patronage]; to be printed [No. 686-ix] [Tony Wright]. |
[No. 193; WH, No. 114.]
Thursday 24th October 2002.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall [pursuant to Order of 20th November 2000].
The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
| Adjournment (UN Charter on the Rights of the Child),—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Joan Ryan.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 29th October.
[Adjourned at 5.29 p.m.
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