Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Fridge Destruction Meeting 21 August 2001

Chair—Chris Megainey, DEFRA Secretariat—Anna Stacey, DTI

INTRODUCTION

  Officials from DEFRA and DTI provided an overview of the Regulation and outlined the objectives for the meeting.

  DEFRA are writing to local authorities to inform them of the likely impacts of the Regulation and their obligations to remove ODS from foams.

  The important link between retailer take-back schemes and the WEEE was noted.

FUNDING

  DEFRA confirmed that if the EC ODS Regulation generates a new burden on Local Authorities then Government will have to meet the increased cost. While the burden is most likely to fall on local authorities consideration of more imaginative solutions involving the private sector are not ruled out.

WHAT FOAM BLOWING AGENTS ARE COVERED?

  There was a brief discussion to confirm what ODS are covered by the Regulation—in the case of foam blowing agents, CFCs (mainly CFC11) and HCFCs (mostly HCFC141b; some HCFC22). [The prohibition on export outside the EU only covers CFCs, not HCFCs]. Newer blowing agents, such as HFCs and hydrocarbons, are not covered by the Regulation.

NEEDS OF INDUSTRY

  Many representatives from industry stressed the need for certainty and a secure framework for investment decisions, including three key areas: funding, standards for destruction plants, and enforcement of destruction obligations.

  Government accepted this, and saw this meeting, bringing stakeholders together, as an important first step.

INTERIM MEASURES

  Industry explained that it would take around 10 months to install plants in the UK, and asked what plans there were for the interim. Government confirmed that there were no firm plans at present; options seemed to be to export to destruction facilities in the EU (industry doubted there would be enough capacity) or store fridges.

ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS OF TRANSPORT VS RELEASE OF CFCS

  Recent work by Cranfield University had showed that in terms of emissions of global warming, a fridge could be transported a long way before the CO2 of transportation outweighed the global warming effects of CFCs from the foam emitted direct to atmosphere.

  Government's preference, if competitive economically, is to abide by the "proximity principle" and destroy waste within the UK.

COMMERCIAL REFRIGERATION EQUIPMENT

  DEFRA and DTI are urgently considering the destruction facility requirements in respect of commercial equipment. The Commission had asked for information from Member States as to action taken in this area. EAC confirmed that they could handle commercial equipment by separating panels and where necessary cutting them up.

CAPACITY REQUIRED

  Peter Jones (Biffa) estimated there would be 1/3 million tonnes refrigeration equipment per year.

OPTIONS FOR DESTRUCTION

  DEFRA confirmed that refrigeration equipment could be disposed of by incineration, namely via a high temperature incinerator. Lorie Randall (DARP) estimated this would cost about £70/fridge. Cost estimates for the proposed UK facilities are £20-£30/fridge; and more than £15/fridge to ship to Germany.

  Paul Ashford (TEAP/TOC) explained that an international task force on ODS destruction would consider which routes of destruction would be acceptable, including incineration. The impact of foam going through low-temperature incinerators at low enough concentrations (5 per cent by weight, which can be quite a lot of foam) had been found to be OK.

OPTIONS FOR STANDARDS OF DESTRUCTION FACILITIES

  Different options existed. Christoph Becker (RAL) outlined the German approach to setting standards. Clwyd Refrigeration outlined their alternative approach. Paul Ashford provided an overview of the work at international level in the context of the Montreal Protocol being undertaken.

COLLECTION INFRASTRUCTURE

  Chris Megainey emphasised the need to maintain the collection infrastructure that exists, or to replace it with something equally good. UK Government needed to think radically about funding.

TIMING

  Jeff Sleight (Small Business Service) asked whether the UK could argue to the European Commission that we need more time to implement the Regulation. Chris Megainey said there would run the risk of being susceptible to infraction proceedings by the Commission. It was acknowledged that SMEs need to be kept informed on progress on these issues.

REGULATION OF DESTRUCTION PLANTS BY THE ENVIRONMENT AGENCY

  The Environment Agency confirmed that the CFC extraction plants would be regulated under the Waste Management Licensing Regulations. Individual sites would be considered separately.

REQUIREMENTS FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT LICENCES BY RETAILERS/EFFECT OF CLASSIFICATION AS HAZARDOUS WASTE

  There was confusion about the implications of the forthcoming changes to the Hazardous Waste List, and also about exemption 28 of the Waste Management Licensing Regulations. Chris Megainey explained the need to review the current exemptions in response to challenge from the European Commission, but said that the Government will do all it can to minimise the increased burden. DEFRA offered a meeting with retailers to discuss these issues separately.

LIFESPAN OF PROPOSED PLANTS

  CFCs have not been used in foam since about 1995 and HCFCs are now being phased out. However Peter Jones (Biffa) thought the plants would still be viable in the long term.

OTHER CONSIDERATIONS

  FRN—social enterprises take in and refurbish old fridges, but can't afford to be left with ones which can't be fixed and will be expensive to dispose of.

  Alex Goodwin (Energy Savings Trust) provided information on the "Fridge savers" scheme funded by power generators. This encourages people to get new energy efficient fridges, however, the scheme will not be viable at £30/fridge disposal cost and alternative schemes will have to be considered.

NEXT STEPS:

    —  set up email network so issues can be discussed;

    —  schedule a follow-up meeting to report back on progress; and

    —  group asked to submit any further comments.

Attendees at the Fridge Destruction meeting 21 August 2001

Chris MegaineyDEFRA
Teresa KnottDEFRA
Anna StaceyDTI
Mike DunneDTI
Rhys JonesDTI
Gerry MilesDTI
Jeff SleightDTI
Alex GoodwinEnergy Savings Trust
Mark BatesExpert Group
Gary TaylorClwyd Refrigeration
Tony LidgettClywd Refrigeration
Phil LonghurstCranfield University / Biffaward
Chris GrechPhoenix UK
Malcolm HorlickACRIB
Howard RobertsFETA / BRA
Dennis HealeyTOC International
Rheinhard JenneweinR.A.L.
Ms Silke SchoenbuchnerTranslator
Christoph BeckerR.A.L.
Stewart EdwardsEdwards Waste Management
Jim WrightComet Home Delivery
Scott KeillerComet
Lorie RandallDARP
Stuart RandallDARP
Jeremy BeadlesBritish Retail Consortium
Vivien WilliamsDixons Group Stores
Christopher ReeEAC
Michael BakerMichael Baker Group of Companies
Peter JonesBIFFA
Craig AndersonFRN
Claire PalmerH.M. Treasury
Paul AshfordCaleb Management Services
Graham DavySims Metal UK Ltd
Andrew MasonEuropean Metal Recycling
David IrelandEuropean Metal Recycling
Rick WilcoxBritish Metals Recycling Association
John MacintyreDEFRA
Liz ParksEnvironment Agency
Jeff CooperEnvironment Agency
Peter NewmanEnvironment Agency
Andy HowarthDEFRA
Sarah PaulDEFRA





 
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