MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
SESSION 2001-02
THURSDAY 19 JULY 2001
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson |
Mr Bill Olner |
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr John Maples | |
Members disclosed their pecuniary interests pursuant to the Resolution
of the House of 13 July 1992 (see Appendix).
Mr Donald Anderson was called to the Chair.
Mr Bill Olner declared non-pecuniary interests as a member of
the United Kingdom-United States All Party Group, United Kingdom-China
All Party Group, United Kingdom-Ghana All Party Group and a member
of the executive of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association.
Sir Patrick Cormack declared non-pecuniary interests as a Governor
of the English Speaking Union, a member of the United Kingdom-Finnish
All Party Group, a Vice-Chairman of the United Kingdom-Croatian
All Party Group, a Vice-Chairman of the de Burght Conference on
Human Rights, an honorary citizen of Texas, Treasurer of the Commonwealth
Parliamentary Association, and Editor of the House Magazine.
Andrew Mackinlay declared non-pecuniary interests as Chairman
of the United Kingdom-Poland All Party Group, a member of the
United Kingdom-Gibraltar All Party Group and a member of a number
of All Party Groups relating to Europe.
Sir John Stanley declared non-pecuniary interests as Chairman
of the United Kingdom-Republic of Korea All Party Group, Chairman
of the United Kingdom-Nepal All Party Group, Vice Chairman of
the United Kingdom-Japan All Party Group, Vice Chairman of the
All Party Group on Child Abduction, a member of the executive
of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association and a member of
the executive of the United Kingdom-United States All Party Group.
Mr John Maples declared non-pecuniary interests as the Vice Chairman
of the United Kingdom-United States All Party Group and a member
of the Council of Chatham House.
Mr Donald Anderson declared non-pecuniary interests as a member
of the board of the charity Mercy Ships, a member of the executive
of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association, a member of the
executive of the International Parliamentary Union, a member of
the United Kingdom-Norwegian All Party Group, a member of the
United Kingdom-French All Party Group, a member of the United
Kingdom-South Africa All Party Group, a member of the United Kingdom-Netherlands
All Party Group and a member of the United Kingdom-Spanish All
Party Group.
The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee takes note of the procedures
for safeguarding classified evidence.(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the public be admitted during the examination
of witnesses, unless the Committee otherwise orders.(The
Chairman.)
The Committee further deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into relations
between the United Kingdom and the United States, and the implications
of US foreign policy for United Kingdom interests.(The
Chairman.)
Resolved, That the Committee do visit the United States
in November in connection with its inquiry into British-US Relations.
Ordered, That the Chairman and Mr Mackinlay represent the
Committee at the Conference on the Parliamentary Dimension of
the New European Security and Defence Policy in Brussels on 17
and 18 September.(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the Chairman and Clerk do visit Brussels
to attend the Conference of Foreign Affairs Committee Chairmen
on 22 and 23 October.(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the Chairman do seek the approval of the
Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the said
visits.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into current and
future developments in the European Union.(The Chairman.)
Resolved, That the Committee do visit Brussels in October
in connection with its inquiry into current and future developments
in the European Union.
Ordered, That the Chairman do seek the approval of the
Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the said
visit.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into the Foreign
and Commonwealth Office Annual Report on Human Rights.(The
Chairman.)
The Committee further deliberated.
[Adjourned till Friday 14 September at One
o'clock.
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FRIDAY 14 SEPTEMBER 2001
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
Mr Bill Olner | |
The Committee deliberated.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 23 October at half
past Ten o'clock.
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TUESDAY 23 OCTOBER 2001
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr John Maples
|
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Bill Olner
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | |
The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into the Inter-Governmental
Conference 2004.(The Chairman.)
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into Gibraltar.(The
Chairman.)
Resolved, That the Committee do visit Madrid on 14th and
15th January 2002 in connection with its inquiry into developments
in the European Union.(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the Chairman do seek the approval of the
Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the said
visit.
Resolved, That the Committee agrees to meet concurrently
with the Defence, International Development and Trade and Industry
Committees for the purpose of examining and reporting on the Government's
annual reports on strategic exports and related matters.(The
Chairman).
[Adjourned till Tuesday 30 October at Ten
o'clock.
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TUESDAY 30 OCTOBER 2001
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr John Maples
|
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Bill Olner
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | |
The Committee deliberated.
Ms Gisela Stuart declared non-pecuniary interests as a Trustee
of the Westminster Foundation, a member of the British Association
for Central and Eastern European Studies and a member of the Steering
Committee Königswinter, and a pecuniary interest as Associate
Editor of the House Magazine.
British-US Relations: Mr James Rubin, Former US Assistant Secretary
of State, Professor Michael Clarke, Centre for Defence Studies,
Kings College, London and Professor Fred Halliday, Professor of
International Relations, London School of Economics, were examined.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 13 November at Ten
o'clock.
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TUESDAY 13 NOVEMBER 2001
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr Bill Olner
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
Mr John Maples | |
The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into Foreign Policy
Aspects of the War against Terrorism.(The Chairman.)
The Committee further deliberated.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 20 November at half
past Three o'clock.
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TUESDAY 20 NOVEMBER
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr Bill Olner
|
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | |
The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into the United
Kingdom's relations with Turkey.(The Chairman.)
British-US Relations: Rt Hon Jack Straw, a Member of the House,
Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, Mr Stephen
Wright CMG, Deputy Under-Secretary
of State, Mr Peter Ricketts, Political Director, and Mr Richard
Wilkinson, Director, Americas, Foreign and Commonwealth Office,
were examined.
Foreign Policy Aspects of the War against Terrorism: Rt Hon Jack
Straw, a Member of the House, Secretary of State for Foreign and
Commonwealth Affairs, Mr Stephen Wright CMG,
Deputy Under-Secretary of State, Mr Peter Ricketts, Political
Director, and Mr Richard Wilkinson, Director, Americas, Foreign
and Commonwealth Office, were examined.
[Adjourned till Wednesday 21 November at
Ten o'clock.
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WEDNESDAY 21 NOVEMBER 2001
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson in the Chair
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Mr Bill Olner
|
Mr John Maples | Sir John Stanley
|
The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Clerk have leave to supply the Library
with notes of the Committee's visits, under specified conditions.(The
Chairman.)
[Adjourned till Wednesday 28 November at
a quarter to Four o'clock.
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WEDNESDAY 28 NOVEMBER 2001
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr John Maples
|
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Bill Olner
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into Zimbabwe.(The
Chairman.)
Resolved, That the Committee do visit Istanbul and Ankara
in connection with its inquiry into Turkey.(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the Chairman do seek the approval of the
Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the said
visit.
Gibraltar: Hon Peter Caruana QC,
Chief Minister of the Government of Gibraltar, and Rt Hon Peter
Hain, a Member of the House, Minister for Europe, Foreign and
Commonwealth Office, were examined.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 4 December at Ten
o'clock.
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TUESDAY 4 DECEMBER
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
Mr John Maples | |
The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report [Gibraltar], proposed by the Chairman, brought up,
read the first and second time, and agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report be the First Report of the Committee
to the House.
Ordered, That the Chairman do make the Report to the House.
[Adjourned till Wednesday 5 December at Ten
o'clock.
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WEDNESDAY 5 DECEMBER 2001
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
Mr John Maples | |
The Committee deliberated.
Zimbabwe: Rt Hon Jack Straw, Member of the House, Secretary
of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs and Mr Mark Lyall
Grant, Director, Africa, Foreign and Commonwealth Office, were
examined.
Laeken European Council: Rt Hon Jack Straw, Member of the
House, Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs
and Mr Kim Darroch, Director, European Union, Foreign and Commonwealth
Office, were examined.
Foreign Policy Aspects of the War against Terrorism: Rt Hon Jack
Straw, Member of the House, Secretary of State for Foreign and
Commonwealth Affairs and Mr Stephen Wright CMG,
Deputy Under-Secretary of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office,
were examined.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 11 December at Ten
o'clock.
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TUESDAY 11 DECEMBER 2001
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr Bill Olner
|
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
Mr John Maples | |
The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report [British-US Relations], proposed by the Chairman,
brought up and read.
The Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of
the Report are published in the Second Report from the Foreign
Affairs Committee, Session 2001-2002 (HC 413, pp xlv-xlvii).
[Adjourned till Wednesday 12 December at
Ten o'clock.
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WEDNESDAY 12 DECEMBER 2001
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr Bill Olner
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | |
The Committee deliberated.
Zimbabwe: Baroness Amos, a Member of the House of Lords, Parliamentary
Under-Secretary of State and Mr Andrew Pocock, Head of Africa
Department (Southern), Foreign and Commonwealth Office, were examined.
The Committee further deliberated.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 8 January 2002 at
Ten o'clock.
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TUESDAY 18 DECEMBER 2001
The Committee met concurrently with the Defence, International
Development and Trade and Industry Committees.
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | Gisela Stuart
|
Mr Bill Olner | |
The following members of the Defence Committee were also present,
pursuant to S.O. No. 137(1)(b):
Mr Bruce George | Rachel Squire
|
Patrick Mercer | |
The following members of the International Development Committee
were also present, pursuant to S.O. No. 137(1)(b):
Tony Baldry | Mr Tony Colman
|
Mr Alistair Carmichael | Mr Piara S Khabra
|
Ann Clwyd | Mr Tony Worthington
|
The following members of the Trade and Industry Committee were
also present, pursuant to S.O. No. 137(1)(b):
Mr Roger Berry | Mr Martin O'Neill
|
Mr Andrew Lansley | |
Mr Roger Berry was called to the Chair.
The Committees deliberated.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 8 January 2002 at
Ten o'clock.
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TUESDAY 8 JANUARY 2002
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr Greg Pope
|
Sir Patrick Cormack | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
Mr John Maples | |
The Committee deliberated.
Ordered, That the Committee's Annual Report be sent to
the Liaison Committee in the form of a memorandum.(The
Chairman.)
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into the Foreign
and Commonwealth Office Annual Report 2002.(The Chairman.)
[Adjourned till Tuesday 10 January at half
past Four o'clock
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TUESDAY 10 JANUARY 2002
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Sir Patrick Cormack | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
Mr Bill Olner | |
The Committee deliberated.
Draft Special Report [Appointment of Parliamentary Representatives
to the Convention on the Future of Europe], proposed by the Chairman,
brought up and read.
The Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of
the Report are published in the First Special Report from the
Foreign Affairs Committee, Session 2001-2002 (HC 509, p 9).
[Adjourned till Tuesday 22 January at Ten
o'clock.
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TUESDAY 22 JANUARY 2002
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr John Maples
|
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Bill Olner
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | |
The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That Ms Gisela Stuart and Mr John Maples be the
Committee's nominees to the House as Parliamentary Representatives
to the Convention on the Future of Europe.(The Chairman.)
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into the Barcelona
European Council.(The Chairman.)
Draft Report [Laeken European Council], proposed by the Chairman,
brought up and read.
The Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of
the Report are published in the Third Report from the Foreign
Affairs Committee, Session 2001-2002 (HC 435, p 4).
Foreign Policy Aspects of the War against Terrorism: Mr Paul Bergne
OBE; Professor Paul Wilkinson;
and Mr Michael Keating and Mr Andrew Gilmour, UNSCO, were examined.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 30 January at Ten
o'clock.
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TUESDAY 30 JANUARY 2002
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Andrew Mackinlay
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
The Committee deliberated.
Human Rights Annual Report 2001: Peter Hain, a Member of the House,
Minister of State, Dr Carolyn Browne, Head, Human Rights Policy
Department and Nicola Brewer, Director, Global Issues, Foreign
and Commonwealth Office, were examined.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 5 February at Ten
o'clock.
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TUESDAY 5 FEBRUARY 2002
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Bill Olner
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
Mr John Maples | |
The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report [Zimbabwe], proposed by the Chairman, brought up
and read.
The Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of
the Report are published in the Fourth Report from the Foreign
Affairs Committee, Session 2001-2002 (HC 456, p 4).
Turkey: Dr William Hale, Director, Political Studies Department,
School of Oriental and African Studies, Dr Philip Robins, Faculty
Fellow and University Lecturer, Middle East Politics, Middle East
Centre, St Anthony's College, Oxford and Mr William Park, Senior
Lecturer and Research Associate, Centre for Defence Studies, King's
College, London, were examined.
[Adjourned till Thursday 7 February at Ten
o'clock.
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THURSDAY 7 FEBRUARY 2002
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Mr John Maples
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
The Committee deliberated.
Ordered, That Mr Bill Olner and the Clerk do visit Madrid
in March to attend the Conference of Foreign Affairs Committee
Chairmen.
Resolved, That the Committee do visit Cyprus in March in
connection with its inquiry into developments in the European
Union.(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the Chairman do seek the approval of the
Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the said
visits.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 12 February 2002
at Ten o'clock.
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TUESDAY 12 FEBRUARY 2002
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr Andrew Mackinlay
|
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Bill Olner
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do visit the United States
in connection with its inquiry into Foreign Policy Aspects of
the War against Terrorism.(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the Chairman do seek the approval of the
Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the said
visit.
Turkey: Mr Michael Leigh, Director of Directorate C and Head of
Turkey Unit, Enlargement Directorate-General, European Commission;
Mr David Barchard; and Dr Heidi Wedel and Mr Tim Hancock, Amnesty
International, were examined.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 26 February at Ten
o'clock.
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TUESDAY 26 FEBRUARY 2002
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Mr David Chidgey | Mr Bill Olner
|
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Greg Pope
|
Mr Fabian Hamilton | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr Eric Illsley | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
Mr John Maples | |
The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report [Human Rights Annual Report], proposed by the Chairman,
brought up and read.
The Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of
the Report are published in the Fifth Report from the Foreign
Affairs Committee, Session 2001-2002 (HC 413, pp 16 - 17).
Motion made and Question put, That the matter of FCO/BTI policy
on requesting letters from the Prime Minister in support of the
commercial activities of British Companies be considered before
the witnesses are heard.(Sir John Stanley.)
The Committee divided.
Ayes, 4 | Noes, 3 |
Mr David Chidgey | Mr Fabian Hamilton
|
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Eric Illsley
|
Mr John Maples | Mr Bill Olner
|
Sir John Stanley | |
Motion made, and Question put, That the Chairman do write to the
Secretary of State requesting answers to the following questions:
- What instructions and guidance FCO has given to British ambassadors
and high commissioners overseas as to the circumstances in which
they should seek a letter from the Prime Minister in support of
the commercial activities of a British company, and if he will
supply the Committee with a copy of any such instructions or guidance?
- Whether he is satisfied that the draft letter for the Prime
Minister submitted by the British Ambassador to Romania in support
of the acquisition of Sidex by Mr Lakshmi Mittal's company was
in accordance with any such instructions or guidance?
- Who initiated, and on what date, the draft letter for the
Prime Minister submitted by the British Ambassador to Romania
in support of the acquisition of Sidex by Mr Lakshmi Mittal's
company?
- If he will provide the Committee with a list of any such similar
letters for the Prime Minister submitted by British Ambassadors
and High Commissioners overseas since the beginning of the present
Parliament, giving in each case brief details of the contract
or investment concerned, and the date the letter was initiated?(Sir
John Stanley)
The Committee divided.
Ayes, 4 | Noes, 4 |
Mr David Chidgey | Mr Fabian Hamilton
|
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Eric Illsley
|
Mr John Maples | Mr Bill Olner
|
Sir John Stanley | Mr Greg Pope
|
Whereupon the Chairman declared himself with the Noes.
The Committee further deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into the Foreign
and Commonwealth Office Departmental Report and Estimates.(The
Chairman.)
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into the Green
Paper on Private Military Companies.(The Chairman.)
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into the Seville
European Council.(The Chairman.)
Foreign Policy Aspects of the War against Terrorism: Dr Rosemary
Hollis, Head of the Middle East Programme, Chatham House and Mr
Philip Stephens, Journalist, Financial Times, were examined.
The Committee further deliberated.
[Adjourned till Wednesday 13 March at twenty
to Four o'clock.
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WEDNESDAY 13 MARCH 2002
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson, in the Chair
Sir Patrick Cormack | Mr Bill Olner
|
Mr Andrew Mackinlay | Sir John Stanley
|
Mr John Maples | Ms Gisela Stuart
|
The Committee deliberated.
Barcelona European Council: Rt Hon Jack Straw MP, a Member of
the House, Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs
and Mr Kim Darroch CMG, Director,
European Union, Foreign and Commonwealth Office, were examined.
Turkey: Rt Hon Jack Straw MP, a Member of the House, Secretary
of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, Mr Peter Ricketts
CMG, Political Director and Mr
John Macgregor CVO, Director for
Wider Europe, Foreign and Commonwealth Office, were examined.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 16 April at Ten o'clock.
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THURSDAY 21 MARCH 2002
The Committee met concurrently with the Defence, International
Development and Trade and Industry Committees.
Members present:
Mr Donald Anderson | Sir John Stanley
|
The following members of the Defence Committee were also present,
pursuant to S.O. No. 137(1)(b):
Mr Bruce George
Mr Gerald Howarth
Rachel Squire
The following members of the International Development Committee
were also present, pursuant to S.O. No. 137(1)(b):
Tony Baldry | Mr Tony Worthington
|
John Barrett | |
The following members of the Trade and Industry Committee were
also present, pursuant to S.O. No. 137(1)(b):
Mr Roger Berry | Mr Martin O'Neill
|
Mr Andrew Lansley | |
Mr Roger Berry was called to the Chair.
The Committees deliberated.
Strategic Export Controls: Annual Report for 2000, Licensing Policy
and Prior Parliamentary Scrutiny: Rt Hon Jack Straw, a Member
of the House, Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth
Affairs, Mr William Ehrman, Director, International Security,
and Mr Tim Dowse, Head of Non-Proliferation Department, Foreign
and Commonwalth Office, were examined.
[Adjourned till Tuesday 16 April at Ten o'clock.
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