Select Committee on Health First Report



Members present:

In the absence of the Chairman, JULIA DROWN was called to the Chair.
Mr Simon BurnsDr Doug Naysmith
Jim DowdDr Richard Taylor

  Draft Report (Delayed Discharges), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

  Ordered, That the draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.

  Paragraphs 1 to 101 read and agreed to.

  Paragraph 102 read as follows:

    We therefore consider that a distinction needs to be made between NHS long term care and care home places — hence the analysis indicated in paragraph 99 above. We conclude that the figure of 50,000 arguably overstates the full losses that have occurred since it includes NHS provision that is different in kind from care home provision. At the same time, however, the figure of 19,000 appears to us to be arguably an under-estimate of the losses that have taken place. If trends in the provision of all care home places (across local authority, private and voluntary providers) are considered, there has been a net loos of 34,200 places between 1997 and 2001.

  Amendment proposed, in line 8, after "34,200 places" insert "this figure exludes NHS long-stay beds".- (Mr Simon Burns.)

  Question put, That the Amendment be made.

  The Committee divided.

Ayes, 2

Noes, 2

Mr Simon Burns

Mr Jim Dowd

Dr Richard Taylor

Dr Doug Naysmith

  Whereupon the Chair declared herself with the Noes.

Amendment negatived.

  Question put, That the paragraph stand part of the Report.

  The Committee divided.

Ayes, 3

Noes, 1

Mr Jim Dowd

Mr Simon Burns

Dr Doug Naysmith

Dr Richard Taylor

  Paragraph 102, agreed to.

Paragraphs 103 to 191 read and agreed to.

  Resolved, That the Report, as amended, be the Third Report of the Committee to the House.

  Ordered, That the Chairman do make the Report to the House.

  Ordered, That the provisions of Standing Order No. 134 (Select Committees (reports)) be applied to the Report.

  Several Papers were ordered to be appended to the Minutes of Evidence.

  Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee be reported to the House.- (The Chairman.)

  Several Papers were ordered to be reported to the House.

  [Adjourned till this day at a quarter to Four o'clock.

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