WEDNESDAY 17 JULY 2002
[MORNING SITTING]
Members present:
In the absence of the Chairman,
JULIA DROWN
was called to the Chair.
| Mr Simon Burns | Dr Doug Naysmith
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| Jim Dowd | Dr Richard Taylor
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Draft Report (Delayed Discharges), proposed by the Chairman,
brought up and read.
Ordered, That the draft Report be read a second time,
paragraph by paragraph.
Paragraphs 1 to 101 read and agreed to.
Paragraph 102 read as follows:
We therefore consider that a distinction needs to be made
between NHS long term care and care home places — hence
the analysis indicated in paragraph 99 above. We conclude that
the figure of 50,000 arguably overstates the full losses that
have occurred since it includes NHS provision that is different
in kind from care home provision. At the same time, however, the
figure of 19,000 appears to us to be arguably an under-estimate
of the losses that have taken place. If trends in the provision
of all care home places (across local authority, private and voluntary
providers) are considered, there has been a net loos of 34,200
places between 1997 and 2001.
Amendment proposed, in line 8, after "34,200 places"
insert "this figure exludes NHS long-stay beds".- (Mr
Simon Burns.)
Question put, That the Amendment be made.
The Committee divided.
Ayes, 2
Noes, 2
Mr Simon Burns
Mr Jim Dowd
Dr Richard Taylor
Dr Doug Naysmith
Whereupon the Chair declared herself with the Noes.
Amendment negatived.
Question put, That the paragraph stand part of the Report.
The Committee divided.
Ayes, 3
Noes, 1
Mr Jim Dowd
Mr Simon Burns
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor
Paragraph 102, agreed to.
Paragraphs 103 to 191 read and agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report, as amended, be the Third
Report of the Committee to the House.
Ordered, That the Chairman do make the Report to the
House.
Ordered, That the provisions of Standing Order No.
134 (Select Committees (reports)) be applied to the Report.
Several Papers were ordered to be appended to the Minutes
of Evidence.
Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence
taken before the Committee be reported to the House.- (The
Chairman.)
Several Papers were ordered to be reported to the House.
[Adjourned till this day at a quarter to Four o'clock.
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