Select Committee on Health Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 200 - 203)

MONDAY 29 OCTOBER 2001

MR STEPHEN WEEKS, MR ROBIN MOSS, MR DAVID PRICE, MRS JAN LEMMON AND MRS PATRICIA BOTTRILL

Chairman

  200. Briefly, if possible.
  (Mr Moss) It was always part of the—

  201. It came from the Trust.
  (Mr Moss) It came from the Trust. It was always part of the negotiating agenda. We have been accused of saying a lot of nasty things about the Trust but let me put on record the fact that we have negotiated with the Trust some first rate protection for our members, a two year guarantee of no redundancy written into the contract; a five year guarantee of no reduction in conditions written into the contract. The PFC, Patient Focused Care was a key part of those negotiations and it meant that far fewer of our members were transferred, so there was a congruity between the Trust's agenda and our own agenda, that has not been our problem with the Trust.

Andy Burnham

  202. Have you found there to be a problem with union recognition amongst transferred staff, not just of this Trust but in the region generally?
  (Mr Moss) Not within this Trust because it was TUPE-ed condition where we negotiated a first rate recognition deal.

  203. Was it always a TUPE-ed recognition.
  (Mr Weeks) The NHS executive guidance does go slightly beyond what TUPE-ed required. We think that is very positive and it has enabled the industrial relations consequences of transfer to be handled in a much more positive way than might otherwise have been the case and we do welcome that.

  Chairman: Can I thank you.





 
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