|European Arrest Warrant and Surrender Procedures Between Member States
Mr. Cameron: I want to ask the Minister about the one-appeal rule, which I think will create the strange anomaly of British citizens having fewer rights in respect of appeals than non-EU nationals in, for example, a deportation case. In the Adan v. Aitseguer case, the UK was trying to deport Algerian nationals to Germany, because they were illegal immigrants. The case went all the way to the House of Lords, which ruled that because the Germans interpreted the ECHR more narrowly than the UK, those people should not be deported. The courts ruled that we have a betterif people want to say thatinterpretation of the ECHR than Germany, because the case reached the House of Lords.
Under the one-appeal rule, however, any of our constituents will have only one appeal, and the judgment will not be able to be made that the interpretation of the ECHR in Greece, Spain or anywhere else in Europe is not as rigorous as in this country.
Mr. Ainsworth: Let us turn the example around. If a German commits a crime in this country, he will have all the rights of the British judicial system to appeal up to the top court in the land against the decision that was taken at his trial. We need to examine whether he should be allowed to exercise all those rights in Germany before he comes here and then exercise them again where he is here. If someone comes to this country and commits a crime, he should face justice here, and the reverse also applies. The question is not of people having fewer rights than others, but of where they exercise those rights. In the case that I have suggested, the rights would be exercised in the UK, where the crime was committed, and not in Germany, from where the person came.
Several hon. Members rose
The Chairman: Order. The Committee has had a reasonable opportunity to explore all the issues through questions.
Motion made, and Question proposed,
Mr. Hawkins: The Opposition disagree with the Government's stance. The Minister has received little support and faced tough questions from Labour Members. He sought to imply what the rest of us think, and he must realise that he does not have much support from any party in the Committee. Despite the
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The reservations expressed about the EU arrest warrant proposal are by no means restricted to Conservative Members. In the other place, a range of Lords have savagely criticised the proposal and pointed out many of its flaws. It is noticeable that the debate in the other place commenced at the instigation of Lord Scott of Foscote, who was a favourite judge of the Labour party at the time of the arms to Iraq affair. It seems to have changed its view of his analysis of legal issues. Lord Scott said:
Our present extradition procedures have three important built-in safeguards. One is the so-called double criminality rule. We do not extradite people to face trial on charges that we do not recognise as offences. We would not extradite someone to face charges of homosexuality that would not be criminal in this country or to face blasphemy charges. Many examples can be found.
Secondly, there is requirement that before a person is to be extradited, it must be shown that there is a proper case for him to answer. That is colloquially called the sufficiency testthere must be a sufficient case. We would not extradite if, by our standards, there was no proper case to be answered.
Thirdly, extradition under current procedures is, in the last resort, subject to a political decision to be taken by the responsible Ministerthe Home Secretaryas to whether the individual should be sent to the country that has requested him for trial. That, too, constitutes a safeguard. I do not believe that the Minister would give his consent to the extradition of someone to a country which did not guarantee by our standards that this person would receive a fair trial.''[Official Report, House of Lords, 19 November 2001; Vol. 628, c. 949.]
That is precisely what is wrong with the Government's attitude. They do not believe in safeguards or the importance of the traditions of English law, built up over centuries by our forebears. They are concerned with modernisation, speed and efficiency. I remind the Minister that it is far better that the extradition procedures are delayed for 100 people
Column Number: 37who may be considered guilty in other countries than that one entirely innocent British citizen should be wrongly sent abroad at the instigation of a corrupt judicial authority abroad. Unfortunately, there are corrupt and politically motivated judicial authorities in our EU partner countries. We have given some examples of them.
Dr. Palmer: Does the hon. Gentleman agree with the long-standing principle that a British subject who is accused of a crime while visiting another country can lawfully be tried there? Is he drawing a distinction between what happens if the British subject is still in the other country and what happens if he has crossed the border and is back in Britain? Is the hon. Gentleman saying that in one case it is perfectly all right for him to be tried but in the other we should be prepared to impose a delay of, perhaps, years?
Mr. Hawkins: No, I am not saying that. Surely, the hon. Gentleman understands that we as Members of Parliament have a duty to protect our constituents.
Perhaps it has never happened to any of his constituents, but constituents of mine faced improperly motivated judicial proceedings in another country. I took up the case of a professional footballer several years ago who played for a team in my constituency. It was thought that he had been arrested by police officers in another EU countryone of those countries that would be operating the EU arrest warrant if it is agreed tosimply because of the colour of his skin. He was kept in detention for a considerable period of time. Again, it was thought that the judicial authorities shared the colour prejudice of the police officers who arrested him. He was entirely innocent, and we managed to get all the charges dropped with the help of the then Foreign and Home Secretaries.
It is our duty to ensure that entirely innocent British citizens are protected, whether they are abroad or at home. The debate in another place made it clear that trumped-up charges with a possible penalty of 12 months' imprisonment or more could be proceeded with, a warrant could be issued and a British police officer could turn up on the doorstep of one of our constituents and take them into custody. They could be shipped off to face detention abroad, perhaps for months or years, on the basis of completely inappropriate charges. Parliament should not allow that.
Several Lords in another place expressed serious concerns about the way in which investigations are carried out in other countries. Lord Scott of Foscote said:
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Similar points were made by my noble Friend Lord Mayhew of Twysden, by the distinguished lawyer Lord Lester of Herne Hill, on behalf of the Liberal Democrats, who made some additional points about his concern that the ECHR is not a sufficient safeguard when faced with the EU arrest warrant, and particularly by my noble Friend Lord Lamont of Lerwick. Lord Lamont said:
'There is a real danger that our precious rights and liberties may be lost in a vague and haphazard attempt to impose a single system of law on Europe . . . Would you care to be arrested on the say-so of a Greek or Spanish judge and be packed off, with no case having been made against you, to face a trial under a foreign system in another country?'
Other Lords spoke in the debate and expressed their concerns, including Baroness Park of Monmouth, Baroness Stern, Lord Fraser of Carmyllie, Lord Pearson of Rannoch, who has already been referred to, Lord Goodhart for the Liberal Democrats and Lord Kingsland, the shadow Lord Chancellor. None of their concerns was addressed satisfactorily by Lord Rooker when he concluded the debate for the Government, nor have those concerns been addressed by the Minister today. The Minister is elevating his
Column Number: 39desire to push ahead into a virtue. He is committing the Government to try to find a way round the Italian veto.
Conservative Members believe that the Government should have ruled out the European arrest warrant. It is absolutely unacceptable and we shall continue to fight tooth and nail against it. It has nothing to do with necessary anti-terrorism provisions; its consequences are entirely unacceptable. We hope that even at this 11th hour, the Government will listen to some of their own Back Benchers, to what we have said and what so many Lords in another place have said, see sense and realise that if they sign up to the proposal they will sacrifice one of the most important safeguards of our judicial system.
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