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Page 253 2002-2003 Volume 259 [No. 64.] Monday 17th March 2003. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
The Lords have agreed to the Consolidated Fund (No. 2) Bill, without Amendment. The Lords have agreed to the Community Care (Delayed Discharges etc.) Bill, with Amendments; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
Timetable 1. Proceedings on Second Reading, in Committee, on consideration and on Third Reading shall be completed at this day's sitting and shall be brought to a conclusion, if not previously concluded, at Ten o'clock. Questions to be put 2. When the Bill has been read a second time (a) it shall, notwithstanding Standing Order No. 63 (Committal of bills), stand committed to a Committee of the whole House without any Question being put, and (b) the Speaker shall leave the Chair whether or not notice of an Instruction has been given. 3. On the conclusion of proceedings in Committee the Chairman shall report the Bill to the House without putting any Question and, if the Bill is reported with Amendments, the House shall proceed to consider the Bill as amended without any Question being put. 4. For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 1 the Speaker or Chairman shall forthwith put the following Questions (but no others) (a) any Question already proposed from the Chair; (b) any Question necessary to bring to a decision a Question so proposed; (c) the Question on any Amendment moved or Motion made by a Minister of the Crown; (d) any other Question necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded. 5. On a Motion so made for a new Clause or a new Schedule, the Chairman or Speaker shall put only the Question that the Clause or Schedule be added to the Bill. Page 254 Monday 17th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top Consideration of Lords Amendments 6.(1) Any Lords Amendments to the Bill shall be considered forthwith without any Question being put. (2) Proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments shall be brought to a conclusion, if not previously concluded, one hour after their commencement. 7.(1) This paragraph applies for the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 6. (2) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any Question already proposed from the Chair and not yet decided. (3) If that Question is for the Amendment of a Lords Amendment the Speaker shall then put forthwith (a) a single Question on any further Amendments to the Lords Amendment moved by a Minister of the Crown, and (b) the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown, That this House agrees or disagrees to the Lords Amendment or (as the case may be) to the Lords Amendment as amended. (4) The Speaker shall then put forthwith (a) a single Question on any Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to a Lords Amendment, and (b) the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown, That this House agrees or disagrees to the Lords Amendment or (as the case may be) to the Lords Amendment as amended. (5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown, That this House disagrees to a Lords Amendment. (6) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question, That this House agrees to all the remaining Lords Amendments. (7) As soon as the House has agreed or disagreed to a Lords Amendment, or disposed of an Amendment relevant to a Lords Amendment which has been disagreed to, the Speaker shall put forthwith a single Question on any Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown and relevant to the Lords Amendment. Subsequent stages 8.(1) Any further Message from the Lords on the Bill shall be considered forthwith without any Question being put. (2) Proceedings on any further Message from the Lords shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement. 9.(1) This paragraph applies for the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 8. (2) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any Question which has already been proposed from the Chair and not yet decided. (3) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown which is related to the Question already proposed from the Chair. (4) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown on or relevant to any of the remaining items in the Lords Message. (5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the Question, That this House agrees with the Lords in all the remaining Lords Proposals. Reasons Committee 10.(1) The Speaker shall put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for the appointment, nomination and quorum of a Committee to draw up Reasons in relation to the Bill and the appointment of its Chairman. (2) A Committee appointed to draw up Reasons shall report before the conclusion of the sitting at which it is appointed. (3) Proceedings in the Committee shall, if not previously brought to a conclusion, be brought to a conclusion 30 minutes after their commencement. (4) For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with sub-paragraph (3) the Chairman shall (a) first put forthwith any Question which has been proposed from the Chair but not yet decided, and Page 255 Monday 17th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top (b) then put forthwith successively Questions on motions which may be made by a Minister of the Crown for assigning a Reason for disagreeing with the Lords in any of their Amendments. (5) The proceedings of the Committee shall be reported without any further Question being put. Miscellaneous 11. Paragraph (1) of Standing Order No. 15 (Exempted business) shall apply to any proceedings to which this Order applies. 12. The proceedings on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement and paragraph (1) of Standing Order No. 15 shall apply to those proceedings. 13. Standing Order No. 82 (Business Committee) shall not apply in relation to any proceedings to which this Order applies. 14. No Motion shall be made to alter the order in which any proceedings on the Bill are taken or to re-commit the Bill. 15. No dilatory Motion shall be made in relation to proceedings to which this Order applies except by a Minister of the Crown; and the Question on any such Motion shall be put forthwith. 16.(1) This paragraph applies if (a) a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) has been stood over to Seven o'clock, Three o'clock or Four o'clock (as the case may be), but (b) proceedings to which this Order applies have begun before then. (2) Proceedings on that Motion shall stand postponed until the conclusion of those proceedings. 17. If the House is adjourned, or the sitting is suspended, before the conclusion of any proceedings to which this Order applies, no notice shall be required of a Motion made at the next sitting by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order. 18. Proceedings to which this Order applies shall not be interrupted under any Standing Order relating to the sittings of the House.(Jane Kennedy.)
The House immediately resolved itself into a Committee. (In the Committee) Clause No. 1 (Dates of election, etc). Amendment proposed, in page 1, line 2, to leave out from the beginning to the word in' in line 13 and insert the words (1) In section 31 of the Northern Ireland Act 1998'.(Mr Peter Robinson.) Question put, That the Amendment be made. The Committee divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Iris Robinson, Mr Gregory Campbell: 6. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Nick Ainger, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 368. Clause agreed to. Clause No. 2 agreed to. Whereupon the Chairman left the Chair to report the Bill to the House. The Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair; and Charlotte Atkins reported, that the Committee had gone through the Bill, without Amendment. The Bill was read the third time, and passed.
Page 256 Monday 17th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Jim Murphy: 328. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Bob Russell: 43. So the Question was agreed to.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-eight minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.32 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) Energy Information (Household Electric Ovens) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 751), dated 14th March 2003 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett]. Page 257 Monday 17th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top
Other Papers:
(2) Improving social housing through transfer [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 497 and 496] [Clerk of the House].
(1) Coventry Education Action Zone, and (2) Newcastle Education Action Zone with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 539 and 540] [Clerk of the House].
Farm Waste Grant (Nitrate Vulnerable Zones) (England) Scheme 2003 [by Standing Order] [The Speaker]. APPENDIX II Standing Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
Page 258 Monday 17th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top (2) Tenth Report from the Committee [Individual Learning Accounts]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 544]; (3) Eleventh Report from the Committee [NHS Emergency Planning]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 545]; and (4) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Progress in Protecting Consumers' Interests]; to be printed [No. 546-i] [Mr Edward Leigh]. [No. 65.] Tuesday 18th March 2003. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
That a draft Order in the same terms as the proposal for the Regulatory Reform (British Waterways Board) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 13th January, should be laid before the House. That the draft Regulatory Reform (Schemes under section 129 of the Housing Act 1988) (England) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 11th March, should be approved. The Committee came to this Resolution without a Division.
Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered on Friday 4th April; and to be printed [Bill 79]. Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 553].
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Crime (International Co-operation) Bill [Lords],The Lords have passed a Bill to make provision for furthering co-operation with other countries in respect of criminal proceedings and investigations; to extend jurisdiction to deal with terrorist acts or threats outside the United Kingdom; to amend section 5 of the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981 and make corresponding provision in relation to Scotland; and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Crime (International Co-operation) Bill [Lords] be printed [Bill 78EN].
Bill to be read a second time on Friday 20th June.
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An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Question, in line 3, to leave out from 1441' to the second word in' in line 20 and insert the words believes that the case for war against Iraq has not yet been established, especially given the absence of specific United Nations authorisation; but, in the event that hostilities do commence, pledges its total support for the British forces engaged in the Middle East, expresses its admiration for their courage, skill and devotion to duty, and hopes that their tasks will be swiftly concluded with minimal casualties on all sides', instead thereof.(Mr Peter Kilfoyle.) And the Question being proposed, That the Amendment be made; And it being Seven o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
And the Question being put; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Tony Lloyd, Mr Douglas Hogg: 217. Tellers for the Noes, Joan Ryan, Dan Norris: 396. So the Question was negatived. And the Main Question being put; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Dan Norris, Joan Ryan: 412. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tony Lloyd, Mr Douglas Hogg: 149. So the Question was agreed to. Resolved, That this House notes its decisions of 25th November 2002 and 26th February 2003 to endorse UN Security Council Resolution 1441; recognises that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and long range missiles, and its continuing non-compliance with Security Council Resolutions, pose a threat to international peace and security; notes that in the 130 days since Resolution 1441 was adopted Iraq has not co-operated actively, unconditionally and immediately with the weapons inspectors, and has rejected Page 260 Tuesday 18th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top the final opportunity to comply and is in further material breach of its obligations under successive mandatory UN Security Council Resolutions; regrets that despite sustained diplomatic effort by Her Majesty's Government it has not proved possible to secure a second Resolution in the UN because one Permanent Member of the Security Council made plain in public its intention to use its veto whatever the circumstances; notes the opinion of the Attorney General that, Iraq having failed to comply and Iraq being at the time of Resolution 1441 and continuing to be in material breach, the authority to use force under Resolution 678 has revived and so continues today; believes that the United Kingdom must uphold the authority of the United Nations as set out in Resolution 1441 and many Resolutions preceding it, and therefore supports the decision of Her Majesty's Government that the United Kingdom should use all means necessary to ensure the disarmament of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction; offers wholehearted support to the men and women of Her Majesty's Armed Forces now on duty in the Middle East; in the event of military operations requires that, on an urgent basis, the United Kingdom should seek a new Security Council Resolution that would affirm Iraq's territorial integrity, ensure rapid delivery of humanitarian relief, allow for the earliest possible lifting of UN sanctions, an international reconstruction programme, and the use of all oil revenues for the benefit of the Iraqi people and endorse an appropriate post-conflict administration for Iraq, leading to a representative government which upholds human rights and the rule of law for all Iraqis; and also welcomes the imminent publication of the Quartet's roadmap as a significant step to bringing a just and lasting peace settlement between Israelis and Palestinians and for the wider Middle East region, and endorses the role of Her Majesty's Government in actively working for peace between Israel and Palestine.
And the Motion having been made after Seven o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then one minute to Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.59 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) Further Education (Amendment of Governing Bodies' Powers) Order (Northern Ireland) 2003 (S.R. (N.I.), 2003, No. 110), dated 28th February 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Murphy].
(2) Health and Social Care Act 2001 (Isles of Scilly) (No. 2) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 761), dated 17th March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].
Other Papers:
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(2) Observations by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on the Petition [26th February] from residents of Glasgow Anniesland and others for restrictions on the sale and use of fireworks [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House]. APPENDIX II Standing Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 6th March [Preparing for the humanitarian consequences of possible military action against Iraq]; to be printed [No. 444-ii] [Tony Baldry].
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Reducing Regional Disparities in Prosperity]; to be printed [No. 492-ii] [Andrew Bennett].
Page 262 Tuesday 18th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top (2) Tenth Report from the Committee [Draft Regulatory Reform (Schemes under Section 129 of the Housing Act 1988) (England) Order 2003]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 549] [Mr Peter Pike].
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The UK and the Euro]; to be printed [No. 187-xv] [Mr John McFall]. [No. 65; WH, No. 40.] Tuesday 18th March 2003. The House sitting in Westminster Hall The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And the sitting having continued for two and a half hours after Two o'clock, it was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 4.30 p.m. [No. 66.] Wednesday 19th March 2003. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Wednesday 26th March.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
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That the Committee takes note of European Union Document No. 12846/02, draft Directive on Takeover Bids, and the unnumbered Explanatory Memorandum from the Department of Trade and Industry dated 4th March 2003 on the Council Presidency Compromise Proposal of 14th February 2003; welcomes the draft Directive as an important step forward in seeking to complete the European Union Financial Services Action Plan; and supports the Government's initial approach to negotiations in seeking to achieve a common framework for the treatment of shareholders and encouraging a single market for corporate control. Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.
The Lords have agreed to the Northern Ireland Assembly Elections Bill, without Amendment.
Consideration of Lords Amendments 1. Proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments shall be completed at the moment of interruption on the day on which they commence. 2. Those proceedings shall be taken in the order shown in the first column of the following Table, and each part of those proceedings shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the time shown in the second column.
Subsequent stages 3. Any further Message from the Lords may be considered forthwith without any Question put. 4. Proceedings on any further Message shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement(Mr Phil Woolas):It was agreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 1 was agreed to. Page 264 Wednesday 19th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top Lords Amendment No. 2. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Jacqui Smith); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Charlotte Atkins, Joan Ryan: 320. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Robert Syms, Hugh Robertson: 178. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 3 was agreed to. Lords Amendment No. 5. A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Jacqui Smith); And it being half-past Three o'clock, the Deputy Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair, pursuant to Order [this day]. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr Phil Woolas: 330. Tellers for the Noes, Angela Watkinson, Mr Mark Francois: 205. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. The Deputy Speaker then put forthwith the Question on a Motion made by a Minister of the Crown that this House disagrees with the Lords in a Lords Amendment. Lords Amendment No. 47. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Jacqui Smith); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr Phil Woolas: 333. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mark Francois, Angela Watkinson: 203. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. The Deputy Speaker then put forthwith the Question, That this House agrees with the Lords in the remaining Lords Amendments to be disposed of at that hour. Lords Amendments Nos. 4, 10 to 13, 21, 7, 8 and 39 were agreed to. Lords Amendment No. 6. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Jacqui Smith); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr Ivor Caplin: 328. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Alan Reid, Richard Younger-Ross: 198. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 9 was agreed to. Lords Amendment No. 14. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Jacqui Smith); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Charlotte Atkins: 321. Tellers for the Noes, Richard Younger-Ross, Mr Alan Reid: 202. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. Page 265 Wednesday 19th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top And it being after Five o'clock, the Deputy Speaker put the Questions on Motions made by a Minister of the Crown that this House disagrees with the Lords in a Lords Amendment. Lords Amendment No. 15 was disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 16. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Jacqui Smith); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Phil Woolas, Gillian Merron: 321. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Wilshire, Mr Mark Francois: 203. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 18. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Jacqui Smith); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Phil Woolas, Gillian Merron: 320. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Alan Reid, Richard Younger-Ross: 203. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 23. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Jacqui Smith); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Phil Woolas, Gillian Merron: 322. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Wilshire, Mr Mark Hoban: 206. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. The Deputy Speaker then put forthwith the Question, That this House agrees with the Lords in the remaining Lords Amendments to be disposed of at that hour. Lords Amendments Nos. 17, 19, 40, 42 and 44 to 46 were agreed to. Lords Amendment No. 24. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Jacqui Smith); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Heppell, Mr Fraser Kemp: 308. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Wilshire, Mr Mark Francois: 198. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. Lords Amendment No. 25. A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment(Jacqui Smith); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr John Heppell: 318. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Wilshire, Mr Mark Francois: 198. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to. And it being after Seven o'clock, the Speaker put forthwith the remaining Questions on Amendments to Lords Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown. Page 266 Wednesday 19th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top Lords Amendment No. 26. An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Lords Amendment, in line 25, to leave out the words excluding Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays'.(Jacqui Smith.) And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made to the Lords Amendment. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr John Heppell: 315. Tellers for the Noes, Sir Robert Smith, Mr Alan Reid: 197. So the Question was agreed to. The Lords Amendment, as amended, was agreed to. Lords Amendment No. 35. An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Lords Amendment, in line 16, to leave out subsection (4).(Jacqui Smith.) And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr John Heppell: 314. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Wilshire, Mr Mark Francois: 193. The Lords Amendment, as amended, was agreed to. The Speaker then put forthwith the Question, That this House agrees with the Lords in the remaining Lords Amendments. Lords Amendments Nos. 22, 27, 28, 33, 43, 34, 41, 20, 32, 29 to 31 and 36 to 38 were agreed to. Ordered, That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendments Nos. 2, 5, 6, 14 to 16, 18, 23 to 25 and 47. That Mr Simon Burns, Mr Paul Burstow, Jim Fitzpatrick, Mr Andrew Love and Jacqui Smith be members of the Committee. That Jacqui Smith be the Chairman of the Committee. That three be the Quorum of the Committee. That the Committee do withdraw immediately.(Mr Phil Woolas.)
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The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 2 for the following Reason: Because it is important for the Bill to be able to apply to all NHS hospital patients and it is discriminatory to exclude patients receiving mental health services. The Commons disagree to Lords Amendments No. 5 for the following Reason: Because it is necessary for the Bill to come into force before 1st April 2004. The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 6 for the following Reason: Because it is unnecessary to require consent for the giving of notices containing no personal information and because Lords Amendment No. 9 makes more appropriate provision for consultation. The Commons disagree to Lords Amendments Nos. 14, 15 and 16 for the following Reason: Because it is unnecessary to add additional requirements in relation to community care assessments under clause 3(3) and it is undesirable to differentiate between assessments under clause 3(3) and other assessments carried out under section 47 of the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990. The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 18 for the following Reason: Because it is unnecessary to add additional requirements in relation to carers' assessments under clause 3(4) and it is undesirable to differentiate between assessments under clause 3(4) and other assessments carried out under the Carers and Disabled Children Act 2000. The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 23 for the following Reason: Because the decision to discharge should not be subject to the consent of the patient and it is undesirable to discriminate on this issue between patients who are subject to the Bill and other hospital patients. The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 24 for the following Reason: Because the inspection and monitoring system for health and social care services is adequate and the Amendment is unnecessary. The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 25 for the following Reason: Because the inspecting bodies for health and social care services will be able to make reports on the operation of the Bill. The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 47 for the following Reason: Because the provisions of Part I should not be made to have only temporary effect. The Reasons were agreed to. Message to the Lords to communicate the said Reasons, with the Bill and Amendments.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till one minute past Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 8.01 p.m. Page 268 Wednesday 19th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
Papers withdrawn:
APPENDIX II Standing Committees
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Miss Anne Begg Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Bob Ainsworth, Mrs Patsy Calton, Paul Clark, Mr David Crausby, Mr Frank Field, Barbara Follett, Mr Mark Francois, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr John Heppell, Simon Hughes, Jim Knight, Fiona Mactaggart, Mr Gordon Prentice, Mr Andrew Rosindell, Mr Graham Stringer and Mr Bill Wiggin.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr George Stevenson Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Virginia Bottomley, Mrs Patsy Calton, Mrs Anne Campbell, Denzil Davies, Jim Fitzpatrick, Mr Neil Gerrard, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Chris Grayling, Mr Fabian Hamilton, Dr Evan Harris, Mr George Howarth, Mr John Hutton, Mr David Marshall, Mr Alan Meale, Dr Andrew Murrison and Claire Ward.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and has appointed Miss Anne Begg Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Tom Brake, Mr Christopher Chope, Mr Don Foster, Mr Mark Hendrick, Glenda Jackson, Mr David Jamieson, Mr George Mudie, Mr George Osborne, Mr Gwyn Prosser, Joan Ryan, Mr Robert Syms, Mr Andrew Turner, Mr Dave Watts, Mrs Betty Williams, David Winnick and Derek Wyatt.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Scheme to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr George Stevenson Chairman; and Page 269 Wednesday 19th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Mr Bob Blizzard, Peter Bradley, Geraint Davies, Mr John Denham, Sue Doughty, Mr David Drew, Andrew George, Mr Roger Godsiff, Mr John Hayes, Mr John Horam, Huw Irranca-Davies, Julie Morgan, Mr Elliot Morley, Hugh Robertson and Mr Andrew Tyrie.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr James Cran Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Desmond Browne, Mr Stephen Byers, Mr Nigel Dodds, Lady Hermon, Kate Hoey, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mr Piara S. Khabra, Shona McIsaac, Gillian Merron, Lembit Opik, Mr Clive Soley, Mr Hugo Swire, Mr John Taylor, Jon Trickett, Mr David Wilshire and David Wright.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Order to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Mr Peter Ainsworth, Gregory Barker, Peter Bradley, Mr Alistair Carmichael, Mr Jonathan Djanogly, Mr Bill Etherington, Andrew George, Mr John Hayes, Mr Doug Henderson, Rosemary McKenna, Mr Kevin McNamara, Mr Austin Mitchell, Mr Elliot Morley, Hugh Robertson, Mr Alex Salmond, Mr Martin Salter, Mr David Stewart, Dr Gavin Strang and Dr Alan Whitehead.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr James Cran Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Mr Graham Allen, Janet Anderson, Mr Bob Blizzard, Peter Bradley, Mr David Curry, Sue Doughty, Mr John Hayes, Chris McCafferty, Chris Mole, Mr Elliot Morley, Hugh Robertson, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Tom Watson, Mr Bill Wiggin and Mr Shaun Woodward.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Rules to the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Peter Atkinson Chairman; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Richard Burden, Yvette Cooper, Mr Terry Davis, Jeff Ennis, Michael Fabricant, Mr Mark Field, Mr John Grogan, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr David Heath, Mr Fraser Kemp, Ann McKechin, Laura Moffatt, Mr Andy Reed, Dr John Reid, Joan Walley and Angela Watkinson.
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APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Report of the Convention's Working Group X on freedom, security and justice']; to be printed; [No. 554-i] [Mr Jimmy Hood].
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Empowering Children and Young People in Wales]; to be printed; [No. 433-iii] [Mr Martyn Jones]. [No. 66; WH, No. 41.] Wednesday 19th March 2003. The House sitting in Westminster Hall The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 6.02 p.m. Page 271 Wednesday 19th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top [No. 67.] Thursday 20th March 2003. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Consolidated Fund Act 2003 Northern Ireland Assembly Elections Act 2003.
Committal 1. The Bill shall be committed to a Standing Committee. Proceedings in Standing Committee 2. Proceedings in the Standing Committee shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion on Tuesday 29th April 2003. 3. The Standing Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on which it meets. Page 272 Thursday 20th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top Consideration and Third Reading 4. Proceedings on consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour before the moment of interruption on the day on which those proceedings are commenced. 5. Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the moment of interruption on the day on which proceedings on consideration are commenced. 6. Sessional Order B (programming committees) made on 28th June 2001 shall not apply to proceedings on consideration and Third Reading. Other proceedings 7. Any other proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments or on any further messages from the Lords) may be programmed(Charlotte Atkins):It was agreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Waste and Emissions Trading Bill [Lords], it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of (a) any expenditure incurred by the Secretary of State in consequence of the Act, and (b) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums payable under any other Act out of money so provided(Charlotte Atkins):It was agreed to.
And the Motion having been made at Six o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 6.30 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
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(2) Grinling Gibbons Primary School (Change to School Session Times) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 716), dated 12th March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Clarke].
Page 273 Thursday 20th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top APPENDIX II Standing Committees
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee C; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Henry Bellingham, Mr Richard Caborn, Mr Parmjit Dhanda, Dr Ian Gibson, Mr Tom Harris, Dr Brian Iddon, Norman Lamb, Martin Linton, Mr Malcolm Moss, Diana Organ, Bob Russell, Mrs Gillian Shephard, Mr Keith Simpson, David Taylor, Dr Desmond Turner and Tony Wright.
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[No. 67; WH, No. 42.] Thursday 20th March 2003. The House sitting in Westminster Hall The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
And the sitting having continued for three hours, it was adjourned without Question put, till Tuesday 25th March. [Adjourned at 5.30 p.m. Page 274 Thursday 20th March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top [No. 68.] Friday 21st March 2003. The House met at half-past Nine o'clock.
PRAYERS.
Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Fire Services Bill be printed [Bill 81EN].
It being Eleven o'clock, the Deputy Speaker interrupted the proceedings, pursuant to Standing Order No. 11 (Friday sittings).
And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time; The Motion was, with leave of the House, withdrawn. Bill withdrawn.
A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time; And it being half-past Two o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned. Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Friday 13th June.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 28th March.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 28th March.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till one minute to Three o'clock, adjourned till Monday 24th March. [Adjourned at 2.59 p.m. Page 275 Friday 21st March 2003 2002-2003 Volume 259 Back to top APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
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