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[No. 69.]

Monday 24th March 2003.

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

Voting Age (Reduction to 16) Bill [Lords],—The Lords have passed a Bill to reduce to 16 the voting age in parliamentary and other elections; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

London Local Authorities and Transport for London Bill [Lords],—The Lords have passed a Bill to confer further powers upon local authorities in London and upon Transport for London; and for related purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

Draft Corruption Bill (Joint Committee),—The Lords communicate that they have appointed a Committee of seven Lords to join with the Committee appointed by the Commons to consider and report on any draft Corruption Bill presented to both Houses by a Minister of the Crown;

They have ordered that the Committee have power to agree with the Commons in the appointment of a Chairman;

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom;

That the Reports of the Committee from time to time shall be printed, notwithstanding any adjournment of the House;

And that the Committee do report not later than four months after the presentation of any such draft Bill;

And they propose that the Committee do meet with the Committee appointed by the Commons today at half-past Four o'clock in Committee Room 3A.

2Draft Corruption Bill,—Ordered, That so much of the Lords Message of this day as relates to the Joint Committee on any draft Corruption Bill be now considered.

So much of the Lords Message considered accordingly.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed by this House do meet the Lords Committee as proposed by their Lordships.

Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith.

3London Local Authorities and Transport for London Bill [Lords],—The London Local Authorities and Transport for London Bill [Lords] was read the first time.

Bill referred to the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills.

4Human Fertilisation and Embryology (Deceased Fathers) Bill,—Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology (Deceased Fathers) Bill be printed [Bill 25–EN].

5Licensing Bill [Lords],—The Licensing Bill [Lords] was, according to Order, read a second time.

6Licensing Bill [Lords] (Programme),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 29th October 2002], That the following provisions shall apply to the Licensing Bill [Lords]:

Committal

1. The Bill shall be committed to a Standing Committee.

Proceedings in Standing Committee

2. Proceedings in the Standing Committee shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion on Tuesday 20th May 2003.

3. The Standing Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on which it meets.

Consideration and Third Reading

4. Proceedings on consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour before the moment of interruption on the day on which those proceedings are commenced.

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5. Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the moment of interruption on the day on which proceedings on consideration are commenced.

6. Sessional Order B (programming committees) made on 28th June 2001 shall not apply to proceedings on consideration and Third Reading.

Other proceedings

7. Any other proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments or on any further messages from the Lords) may be programmed—(Mr Jim Murphy);

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Heppell, Mr Nick Ainger: 304.

Tellers for the Noes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Hugh Robertson: 84.

So the Question was agreed to.

7Licensing Bill [Lords] [Money],—Her Majesty's Recommendation having been signified to the proposed Motion relating to Licensing Bill [Lords] [Money];

A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Licensing Bill [Lords], it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of—

(a) any expenditure incurred by the Secretary of State in consequence of any provision of the Act; and

(b) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums payable out of money so provided under any other enactment—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

8Local Government Finance,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 115) (House of Commons Paper No. 449) on Special Grants for Local Authorities, a copy of which was laid before this House on 26th February, be approved—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

9Government Trading Funds,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Vehicle and Operator Services Agency Trading Fund Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 3rd March, be approved—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

10Government Trading Funds,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency Trading Fund Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 6th March, be approved—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

11Immigration,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 (Consequential and Incidental Provisions) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 28th February, be approved—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

12Local Government Finance,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 111) (House of Commons Paper No. 421) on the Neighbourhood Renewal Fund, which was laid before this House on 27th February, be approved—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

13Town and Country Planning,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Town and Country Planning (Electronic Communications) (England) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 6th March, be approved—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

14Social Security,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Child Benefit and Guardian's Allowance (Decisions and Appeals) Regulations 2003, which were laid before this House on 5th March, be approved—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

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15Local Government Finance,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 114) (House of Commons Paper No. 477) on the Social Services (High Performers) Grant for 2003–04, which was laid before this House on 6th March, be approved—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

16Climate Change Levy,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Climate Change Levy (Combined Heat and Power Stations) Prescribed Conditions and Efficiency Percentages (Amendment) Regulations 2003, which were laid before this House on 11th March, be approved—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

17Criminal Law,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 (Powers of Seizure) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 24th February, be approved—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

18Takeover Bids,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of European Union Document No. 12846/02, draft Directive on Takeover Bids, and the unnumbered Explanatory Memorandum from the Department of Trade and Industry dated 4th March 2003 on the Council Presidency Compromise Proposal of 14th February 2003; welcomes the draft Directive as an important step forward in seeking to complete the European Union Financial Services Action Plan; and supports the Government's initial approach to negotiations in seeking to achieve a common framework for the treatment of shareholders and encouraging a single market for corporate control—(Mr Jim Murphy):—It was agreed to.

19Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from people of the Malmesbury and North Wiltshire communities against the closure of Malmesbury Hospital was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

20Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Jim Murphy.)

And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till sixteen minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.44 p.m.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

1Immigration,—Draft Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Procedure) Rules 2003 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

2Northern Ireland,—Draft Criminal Justice (Northern Ireland) Order 2003 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

3Consumer Protection,—Cosmetic Products (Safety) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 835), dated 20th March 2003 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

4Northern Ireland Departments,—Departments (Transfer of Functions) Order (Northern Ireland) 2003 (S.R. (N.I.), 2003, No. 163), dated 5th March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

5Social Security,—Income-related Benefits and Jobseeker's Allowance (Working Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit) (Amendment) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 770), dated 19th March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].

Other Papers:

6Corruption,—Draft Corruption Bill, together with Explanatory Notes [by Command] [Cm. 5777] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

7National Audit,—Reports by the Comptroller and Auditor General on—

(1) A Safer Place to Work: Protecting NHS Hospital and Ambulance Staff from Violence and Aggression,

(2) Developing Effective Services for Older People, and

(3) Financial Auditing and Reporting: General Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for 2001–02

[by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 527, 518 and 517] [Clerk of the House].

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8Parliamentary Contributory Pension Fund,—Report by the Government Actuary on the valuation of the Parliamentary Contributory Pension Fund as at 1st April 2002 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 445] [Clerk of the House].

9Police,—Police (Revocation of Secretary of State's Objectives) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 830), dated 24th February 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

10Public Petitions,—Observations by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on the Petitions [27th February] from—

(1) readers of the Salford Advertiser and the Prestwich Advertiser and others for restrictions on the sale and use of fireworks, and

(2) residents of Heywood and Middleton and surrounding areas for restrictions on the use of fireworks

[by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].

Papers withdrawn:

11Immigration,—Draft Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Procedure) Rules 2003 [laid 18th March].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1Industrial Development (Financial Assistance) Bill,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Chris Bryant, Mr Fabian Hamilton and Mr Bob Laxton from Standing Committee A (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr Kelvin Hopkins, Mr John MacDougall and Lawrie Quinn.

2Draft General and Specialist Medical Practice (Education, Training and Qualifications) Order 2003,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr George Howarth from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Joan Walley.

3Draft Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Procedure) Rules 2003,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Dr John Reid from the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Rules); and nominated in substitution Mr Alan Reid.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

1Education and Skills,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Skills Committee [Secondary Education: Pupil Achievement]; to be printed [No. 513-ii] [Mr Barry Sheerman].

2International Development,—(1) Second Special Report from the International Development Committee [Government Response to the Fourth Report from the Committee, on Preparing for the humanitarian consequences of possible military action against Iraq]; to be printed [No. 561];

(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 19th March [Trade and Development: Aspects of the Doha Agenda]; to be printed [No. 400-v]; and

(3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 20th March [Trade and Development: Aspects of the Doha Agenda]; to be printed [Nos. 400-vi and -vii]

[Tony Baldry].

3Public Accounts,—(1) Twelfth Report from the Committee of Public Accounts [Tackling Pensioner Poverty: encouraging take-up of entitlements]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 565];

(2) Thirteenth Report from the Committee [Ministry of Defence: Progress in Reducing Stocks]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 566]; and

(3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [PFI Construction Performance]; to be printed [No. 567-i]

[Mr Edward Leigh].

4Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Public Service Targets]; to be printed [No. 62-x] [Tony Wright].


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[No. 70.]

Tuesday 25th March 2003.

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1Industrial Development (Financial Assistance) Bill,—Mr Eric Illsley reported from Standing Committee A, That it had gone through the Industrial Development (Financial Assistance) Bill, and directed him to report the same, without Amendment.

Bill, not amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow.

Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 569].

2Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr George Stevenson reported from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft General and Specialist Medical Practice (Education, Training and Qualifications) Order 2003.

Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

The Lords have agreed to the Health (Wales) Bill, without Amendment.

Public Services (Disruption) Bill [Lords],—The Lords have passed a Bill to make provision to contain disruption of public services by collective industrial action; and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

4Company Directors (Health and Safety),—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to require companies to appoint a director as the health and safety director; and to impose duties on this director and on other directors of companies in relation to health and safety; and for connected purposes: And that Ross Cranston, Mr Richard Allan, Tony Baldry, Dr Vincent Cable, Mr Michael Clapham, Mr Andrew Dismore, Mr Frank Doran, Angela Eagle, Linda Gilroy, Mr Tony Lloyd, Shona McIsaac and Lawrie Quinn do prepare and bring it in.

5Company Directors (Health and Safety) Bill,—Ross Cranston accordingly presented a Bill to require companies to appoint a director as the health and safety director; and to impose duties on this director and on other directors of companies in relation to health and safety; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 13th June and to be printed [Bill 82].

6Extradition Bill (Programme) (No. 2),—Ordered, That the Programme Order of 9th December 2002 in relation to the Extradition Bill be amended by the substitution for paragraphs 4 and 5 of the following:

(4) Proceedings on consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion four and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on a Programme Motion varying this Order which is moved on the day on which the proceedings on consideration are commenced.

(5) Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion six and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on such a Programme Motion.—(Mr Bob Ainsworth.)

7Extradition Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Extradition Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.

A Clause (Bail: Scotland)—(Mr Bob Ainsworth)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

Another Clause (Passage of time)—(Mr Bob Ainsworth)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

Another Clause (Undertaking in relation to person serving sentence)—(Mr Bob Ainsworth)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

Another Clause (Extradition following deferral for competing claim)—(Mr Bob Ainsworth)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

Another Clause (Person charged with offence in United Kingdom)—(Mr Bob Ainsworth)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

Another Clause (Person serving sentence in United Kingdom)—(Mr Bob Ainsworth)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

Another Clause (Service policemen)—(Mr Bob Ainsworth)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

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Another Clause (Appeal against grant of bail)—(Mr Bob Ainsworth)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

Another Clause (Remand to local authority accommodation)—(Mr Bob Ainsworth)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

Another Clause (Terrorism)—(Mr Nick Hawkins)—brought up and read the first time.

Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—Clause, by leave, withdrawn.

Another Clause (Referral of Part 1 warrant to Secretary of State)—(Mr Nick Hawkins)—brought up and read the first time.

Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mark Hoban, Mr Robert Syms: 180.

Tellers for the Noes, Gillian Merron, Mr Nick Ainger: 302.

Another Clause (Injustice and oppression)—(Mr John Burnett)—brought up and read the first time.

Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Tom Brake, Annette Brooke: 192.

Tellers for the Noes, Dan Norris, Mr Nick Ainger: 302.

And it being more than four and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Programme Motion varying the provisions of the Programme Order [9th December], the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [this day], put the Questions on Amendments selected by the Speaker for separate Division.

Amendment (No. 20) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 17, at the end, to insert the words—

‘(c) The statement referred to in subsections (3) and (5) shall conform with the provisions of the model warrant annexed to the framework decision.'.—(Mr Nick Hawkins.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mark Hoban, Mrs Cheryl Gillan: 191.

Tellers for the Noes, Mr Nick Ainger, Dan Norris: 297.

Another Amendment (No. 1) proposed to the Bill, in page 30, line 34, to leave out the words ‘falls within the European framework list' and insert the words ‘constitutes terrorism', instead thereof.—(Mr Nick Hawkins.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mark Hoban, Mrs Cheryl Gillan: 140.

Tellers for the Noes, Mr Nick Ainger, Dan Norris: 352.

The Deputy Speaker then put forthwith the Question on the remaining Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown.

Amendments (Nos. 34 to 59, 32, 60 to 62, 33, 63, 65, 66, 14, 67 to 73, 6, 74, 7 to 10, 75 to 77, 11, 12, 78, 13, 79, 80, 88 and 81 to 87) made to the Bill.

A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the Bill be now read the third time;

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Joan Ryan, Mr Jim Murphy: 303.

Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Mr Mark Hoban: 142.

So the Question was agreed to.

The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed.

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8Housing,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 18 (Consideration of draft regulatory reform orders), That the draft Regulatory Reform (Schemes under Section 129 of the Housing Act 1988) (England) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 11th March, be approved—(Charlotte Atkins):—It was agreed to.

9Sittings of the House,—Ordered, That—

(i) at the sittings on Tuesday 1st April, Wednesday 2nd April and Thursday 3rd April, the Speaker shall not adjourn the House until any Messages from the Lords shall have been received;

(ii) at the sittings on Tuesday 1st April, Wednesday 2nd April and Thursday 3rd April, the Speaker shall not adjourn the House until any Committee to draw up Reasons which has been appointed at that sitting has reported; and

(iii) at the sitting on Thursday 3rd April, the Speaker shall not adjourn the House until he has notified the Royal Assent to Acts agreed upon by both Houses.—(Charlotte Atkins.)

10Transport,—Ordered, That Mr Robert Syms be discharged from the Transport Committee and Mr John Randall be added.—(Keith Hill, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

11Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Charlotte Atkins);

And it being Seven o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.

12Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Charlotte Atkins.)

And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-three minutes past Seven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 7.23 p.m.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

1Agriculture,—Entry Level Agri-Environment Scheme (Pilot) (England) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 838), dated 24th March 2003 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

2Constitutional Law,—Local Government Boundary Commission for Wales (Accounts, Audit and Reports) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 749), dated 24th March 2003 [by Act] [Secretary Peter Hain].

3Council Tax,—Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 768), dated 18th March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

4Legal Services Commission,—Community Legal Service (Funding) (Amendment No. 2) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 851), dated 25th March 2003 [by Act] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

Other Papers:

5Health Service Commissioner,—Third Report of the Health Service Ombudsman, Session 2002–03: Investigations completed—August to November 2002 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 532] [Clerk of the House].

6National Audit,—Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on—

(1) Improving Service Delivery: The Food Standards Agency,

(2) Improving Service Delivery: The Forensic Science Service,

(3) Improving Service Delivery: The Role of Executive Agencies, and

(4) Improving Service Delivery: The Veterans Agency,

[by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 524, 523, 525 and 522] [Clerk of the House].

7National Audit (Northern Ireland),—Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on Areas of Special Scientific Interest [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 499] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

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APPENDIX II

Reports from Select Committees

1Culture, Media and Sport,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Culture, Media and Sport Committee [Privacy and Media Intrusion]; to be printed [No. 458-iv] [Mr Gerald Kaufman].

2Environmental Audit,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education for Sustainable Development Sub-Committee of the Environmental Audit Committee [Learning the Sustainability Lesson]; to be printed [No. 472-iv] [Mr John Horam].

3European Scrutiny,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the European Scrutiny Committee [Report of the Convention's Working Group X on ‘freedom, security and justice']; to be printed [No. 554-ii] [Mr Michael Connarty].

4Foreign Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee [Zimbabwe]; to be printed [No. 339-ii] [Donald Anderson].

5Health,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Maternity Services Sub-Committee of the Health Committee [Provision of Maternity Services]; to be printed [No. 464-iii] [Julia Drown].

6Home Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Home Affairs Committee [Anti-Social Behaviour]; to be printed [No. 568] [Mr Chris Mullin].

7Statutory Instruments,—Fifteenth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 96-xv] [Mr David Tredinnick].

8Work and Pensions,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Work and Pensions Committee [Childcare for Working Parents]; to be printed [No. 564-i] [Sir Archy Kirkwood].


[No. 70; WH, No. 43.]

Tuesday 25th March 2003.

The House sitting in Westminster Hall

The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.

Adjournment,—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Jim Fitzpatrick.)

And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 4.29 p.m.


[No. 71.]

Wednesday 26th March 2003.

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1Transas Group Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the second reading of the Transas Group Bill;

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Wednesday 2nd April.

2Sunday Working (Scotland) Bill,—Mr Roger Gale reported from Standing Committee C, That it had gone through the Sunday Working (Scotland) Bill, and directed him to report the same, without Amendment.

Bill, not amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered on Friday 16th May.

Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 582].

3First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mrs Marion Roe reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 116) (House of Commons Paper No. 494) Maintenance of Roads Grant 2003–04.

Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

4Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Peter Atkinson reported from the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Procedure) Rules 2003.

Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

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5Sixteenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Alan Hurst reported from the Sixteenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Education (Variation of Admission Arrangements) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2898) and the Education (Admission Appeals Arrangements) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2899).

Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

6European Standing Committee A,—Mr Bill O'Brien reported from European Standing Committee A the following Resolution:

That the Committee takes note of European Union Document No. 10665/02, Commission Communication, entitled Towards a Thematic Strategy on the Sustainable Use of Pesticides; and supports the Government's view that this document is a useful step towards a strategy that will help reduce risks and hazards to health and the environment from the use of pesticides.

Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.

7Sustainable Energy Bill,—Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Sustainable Energy Bill be printed [Bill 20–EN].

8Disabled People (Duties of Public Authorities) Bill,—Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Disabled People (Duties of Public Authorities) Bill be printed [Bill 32–EN].

9Police (Northern Ireland) Bill [Lords] (Programme) (No. 4),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 29th October 2002], That the Programme Order of 10th February 2003 in relation to the Police (Northern Ireland) Bill [Lords] be further varied as follows—

Consideration and Third Reading

1. Paragraphs 4 and 5 of the Order shall be omitted.

2. Proceedings on consideration and Third Reading shall be concluded in two days.

3. Proceedings on consideration shall be taken on each of those days as shown in the first column of the following Table and shall be taken in the order so shown.

4. Proceedings on the first day shall be brought to a conclusion six and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on that day or at the conclusion of the proceedings set down for that day, whichever is the earlier.

5. The proceedings shown in the first column of the table shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the time specified in the second column of the Table.

ProceedingsTime for conclusion of proceedings
First day
New Clauses relating to district policing partnerships, new Schedules relating to district policing partnerships and Amendments relating to Clauses 13 to 15Six and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings
Second day
Amendments relating to Clauses 23, 22, 18, 9, 10, 21, 11, 12, new Clauses relating to appointments to the Police Service of Northern Ireland, Amendments relating to Clause 19, new Clauses relating to members of the Police Service of Northern Ireland engaged on other police service, Amendments relating to Clauses 16, 20 and 24, Amendments relating to Schedule 1, Amendments relating to Clauses 4, 25 and 26, Amendments relating to Schedule 2, Amendments relating to Clauses 27 to 36 and 1, new Clauses relating to codes of practice, Amendments relating to Clauses 2, 17, 3, 5 to 8, 37 to 39, Amendments relating to Schedule 3, Amendments relating to Clauses 40 and 41, remaining new Clauses, remaining new Schedules and remaining proceedings on consideration6.00 p.m.

6. Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at 7.00 p.m. on the second of those days—(Gillian Merron);

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Joan Ryan: 277.

Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mark Francois, Mr David Wilshire: 152.

So the Question was agreed to.

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10Police (Northern Ireland) Bill [Lords] [1st allotted day],—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Police (Northern Ireland) Bill [Lords], as amended in the Standing Committee.

A Clause (Independent members: declaration against terrorism)—(Mr Secretary Murphy)—brought up, and read the first and second time.

Question put, That the Clause be added to the Bill.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Heppell, Gillian Merron: 364.

Tellers for the Noes, Mr Nigel Dodds, Mrs Iris Robinson: 10.

Another Clause (Independent members: disqualification)—(Jane Kennedy)—brought up and read the first time.

Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Heppell, Gillian Merron: 312.

Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mark Francois, Mr David Wilshire: 189.

Amendment (b) proposed to the proposed Clause, to leave out lines 20 to 27.—(Mr Quentin Davies.)

Question put, That the Amendment to the proposed Clause be made.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mark Francois, Mr David Wilshire: 187.

Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Heppell, Gillian Merron: 321.

Clause added to the Bill.

Another Clause (Belfast (No. 2))—(Jane Kennedy)—brought up and read the first time.

Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Dan Norris: 299.

Tellers for the Noes, Mr Laurence Robertson, Mr Mark Francois: 126.

Clause added to the Bill.

A Schedule (Belfast No. 2)—(Jane Kennedy)—brought up and read the first time.

Question put, That the Schedule be read a second time.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Dan Norris: 289.

Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Iris Robinson, Mr Gregory Campbell: 61.

Schedule added to the Bill.

An Amendment (No. 48) was proposed to the Bill, in page 10, line 12, to leave out Clause No. 13.—(Mr David Trimble.)

Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Bill to be further considered to-morrow, pursuant to Orders [10th February and this day].

11Sittings in Westminster Hall,—Ordered, That, on Wednesday 9th April, the sitting in Westminster Hall shall begin at half-past Nine o'clock and conclude at half-past Eleven o'clock.—(Mr John Heppell.)

12Sittings of the House,—Ordered, That, notwithstanding paragraph (5) of the Order of the House of 29th October 2002 (New provision for earlier sittings on Wednesdays, and for Thursdays and Fridays), the House shall sit on Friday 11th April.—(Mr John Heppell.)

13Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from—

(1) residents of Northern Ireland against the decision to stand down the Band of the Police Service of Northern Ireland,

(2) Ms M Patel and others against the unrestricted opening of pharmacies able to dispense NHS prescriptions,

(3) Asif Moledina and others against the unrestricted opening of pharmacies able to dispense NHS prescriptions,

(4) Bill Sharp and others against the unrestricted opening of pharmacies able to dispense NHS prescriptions,

(5) residents of the North West of England for a referendum on an elected regional government for the North West, and

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(6) residents of the villages of Invergowrie, Longforgan, Kingoodie and surrounding areas of East Perthshire against the Government's acceptance of the Office of Fair Trading's recommendations on community pharmacies

were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

14Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr John Heppell.)

And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till a quarter to Nine o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 8.45 p.m.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

1Local Government,—Local Government (Best Value) Performance Indicators and Performance Standards (Amendment) (England) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 864), dated 25th March 2003 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

2Road Traffic,—Road Traffic Act 1991 (Special Parking Areas) (England) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 859), dated 25th March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

3Value Added Tax,—(1) Value Added Tax (Place of Supply of Services) (Amendment) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 862), and

(2) Value Added Tax (Reverse Charge) (Amendment) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 863),

dated 25th March 2003 [by Act] [John Healey].

Other Papers:

4Civil Enforcement,—Paper, entitled Effective Enforcement: Improved methods of recovery for civil court debt and commercial rent and a single regulatory regime for warrant enforcement agents [by Command] [Cm. 5744] [Yvette Cooper].

5Home Affairs,—Government Response to the Second Report from the Home Affairs Committee, Session 2002–03, on the Criminal Justice Bill [by Command] [Cm. 5787] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

6Public Petitions,—Observations by the Secretary of State for Transport on the Petition [12th March] from residents of Wilmslow, Alderley Edge and the surrounding area for the maintenance of a direct rail service between Wilmslow and London [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].

7Treaty Series (No. 13, 2003),—Agreement, done at The Hague on 15th August 1996, on the Conservation of African-Eurasian Migratory Waterbirds [by Command] [Cm. 5784] [Mr Secretary Straw].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1Waste and Emissions Trading Bill [Lords]:

(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee B, and has appointed Mr Win Griffiths Chairman; and

(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated eighteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Mr Peter Ainsworth, Norman Baker, Gregory Barker, Jim Dobbin, Sue Doughty, Mr David Drew, Mr Dai Havard, Mr John Hayes, Mr David Kidney, Dr Ashok Kumar, Mr Michael Meacher, Hugh Robertson, Mr Jonathan Sayeed, Gareth Thomas, Paddy Tipping, Dr Alan Whitehead and Mr Anthony D. Wright.

2Waste Emissions Trading Bill [Lords] (Programming Sub-Committee),—The Speaker has appointed Mr Nick Ainger, Norman Baker, Mr John Hayes, Mr Michael Meacher, Hugh Robertson, Gareth Thomas (Clywd West) and Dr Alan Whitehead members of the Programming Sub-Committee of Standing Committee B in respect of the Bill.

3Aviation (Offences) Bill:

(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee C; and

(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Richard Bacon, Lady Hermon, Mr Kelvin Hopkins, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Kevan Jones, Ann Keen, Rosemary McKenna, Patrick Mercer, Laura Moffatt, Margaret Moran, Sandra Osborne, Mr Alan Reid, Mr Frank Roy, Mr Hugo Swire, Mr Robert Syms and Mr Dave Watts.

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4Fireworks Bill:

(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee C; and

(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: John Barrett, Derek Conway, Ross Cranston, Jim Dobbin, Huw Irranca-Davies, Miss Melanie Johnson, Ms Oona King, Shona McIsaac, Mr John Randall, Mr Andrew Robathan, John Robertson, Andrew Selous, Mr Paul Truswell, Mr Bill Tynan, Mr Tom Watson and Mr Michael Weir.

5Legal Deposit Libraries Bill:

(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee C; and

(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Richard Allan, Mr Clive Betts, Mr Chris Bryant, Mr Michael Fallon, Alan Howarth, Dr Kim Howells, Mr Robert Jackson, Mr Andrew Lansley, Martin Linton, Chris Mole, Mr Malcolm Moss, Linda Perham, Christine Russell, Mr Simon Thomas, Mr Mark Todd and Derek Wyatt.

6Licensing Bill [Lords]:

(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee D, and has appointed Mr Roger Gale and Mr Joe Benton Chairmen; and

(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Bob Blizzard, Mr David Crausby, Mr Mark Field, Jane Griffiths, Mr John Grogan, Nick Harvey, Mr Mark Hoban, Dr Kim Howells, Mr Kevan Jones, Mr Fraser Kemp, Jim Knight, Martin Linton, Mr Malcolm Moss, Mr Adrian Sanders, Mr Graham Stringer and Mr Andrew Turner.

7Licensing Bill [Lords] (Programming Sub-Committee),—The Speaker has appointed Nick Harvey, Mr Mark Hoban, Dr Kim Howells, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr Kevan Jones, Martin Linton, and Mr Malcolm Moss members of the Programming Sub-Committee of Standing Committee D in respect of the Bill.

8Draft Criminal Justice (Northern Ireland) Order 2003:

(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr George Stevenson Chairman; and

(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Desmond Browne, Richard Burden, Mr David Clelland, Mr Nigel Dodds, Mr Adrian Flook, Lady Hermon, Mr George Howarth, Shona McIsaac, Gillian Merron, Lembit Opik, Mr Ken Purchase, John Robertson, Mr Geoffrey Robinson, Mr John Taylor, Joan Walley and Mr David Wilshire.

9Draft Representation of the People (Northern Ireland) (Variation of Specified Documents) Regulations 2003,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Gillian Merron and Sio(r)n Simon from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Mr Stephen Byers and Mr Phil Woolas.

10Advisory Conciliation and Arbitration Service: draft Code of Practice on Time Off for Trade Union Duties and Activities:

(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Code to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Bill Olner Chairman; and

(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr John Battle, Mr Clive Betts, Mr Tim Boswell, Mr Michael Foster, Mr Ivan Lewis, Ann McKechin, Mr Andrew Mitchell, Albert Owen, Dr John Pugh, Mr John Redwood, Mr Laurence Robertson, Mark Tami, Derek Twigg, Mr Phil Willis, Mr Mike Wood and Mr Anthony D. Wright.

11Draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Code of Practice on Video Recording of Interviews) (Northern Ireland) Order 2003:

(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Peter Pike Chairman; and

(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Kevin Barron, Mrs Helen Clark, Mr Wayne David, Lady Hermon, Alan Howarth, Jane Kennedy, Mr David Lepper, Gillian Merron, Lembit Opik, Sandra Osborne, Mr John Randall, Mr Gerry Steinberg, Mr Ian Taylor, Mr John Taylor, Gareth Thomas and Mr David Wilshire.

12Draft Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Procedure) Rules 2003:

(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Rules to the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Peter Atkinson Chairman; and

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(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: David Cairns, Mr Alan Campbell, Yvette Cooper, Mr Terry Davis, Jeff Ennis, Michael Fabricant, Mr Mark Field, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr David Heath, Mr Fraser Kemp, Laura Moffatt, Mr Andy Reed, Mr Alan Reid, Angela Watkinson, Mr Tom Watson and Brian White.

13Education (Objections to Admission Arrangements) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I. 2002, No. 2901) and Education (Modifications of Provisions) (No. 2) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I. 2002, No. 2953),—The Speaker has appointed Mr Joe Benton Chairman of the Seventeenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the Regulations, in place of Mr Jimmy Hood.

European Standing Committees

14European Union Document No. 6090/03, relating to official feed and food controls, has been referred to European Standing Committee C.

15The European Scrutiny Committee has withdrawn its recommendation [15th January] that European Union Documents Nos. 15245/01 and 15246/02, both relating to fisheries: catches, quotas and effort limitation 2003, be further considered, and the documents no longer stand referred to European Standing Committee A.

Programming Committees

16Criminal Justice Bill,—The Speaker has appointed Hilary Benn, Paul Clark, Mr Mark Francois, Mr Dominic Grieve, Mr David Heath, Mr John Heppell, Mr David Kidney and Ms Dari Taylor members of the Programming Committee in respect of the Criminal Justice Bill.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

1Defence,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Defence Committee [Defence and Security in the United Kingdom]; to be printed [No. 557-ii] [Mr Bruce George].

2Education and Skills,—(1) Third Report from the Education and Skills Committee [A Level Standards], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 153]; and

(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [A Level Standards]

[Mr Barry Sheerman].

3Environmental Audit,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environmental Audit Committee [The World Summit on Sustainable Development: From Rhetoric to Reality]; to be printed [No. 98-v] [Mr John Horam].

4European Scrutiny,—(1) Sixteenth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 63-xvi]; and

(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Report of the Convention's Working Group X on ‘freedom, security and justice']; to be printed [No. 554-iii]

[Mr Michael Connarty].

5Northern Ireland Affairs,—(1) Third Special Report from the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee [Government's Response to the Second Report from the Committee, Session 2002–03, Annual Report 2002]; to be printed [No. 583]; and

(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Illegal Drugs Trade and Drugs Culture in Northern Ireland]; to be printed [No. 353-iv]

[Mr Michael Mates].

6Procedure,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Procedure Committee [Procedures for Debates and Private Members' Bills and the Powers of the Speaker]; to be printed [No. 333-v] [Sir Nicholas Winterton].

7Public Accounts,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [Regulation of weights and measures]; to be printed [No. 581-i] [Mr Edward Leigh].

8Science and Technology,—(1) Fourth Report from the Science and Technology Committee [Towards a Non-Carbon Fuel Economy: Research, Development and Demonstration]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 55];

(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Implications for Science of the Higher Education White Paper]; to be printed [No. 416-i]; and

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(3) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Towards a Non-Carbon Fuel Economy: Research, Development and Demonstration]

[Dr Ian Gibson].

9Scottish Affairs,—Second Report from the Scottish Affairs Committee [Homeworkers in Scotland and the Minimum Wage]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 335] [Mrs Irene Adams].

10Transport,—(1) Third Report from the Transport Committee [Jam Tomorrow?: The Multi Modal Study Investment Plans], with the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [Nos. 38-I and II]; and

(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Aviation]; to be printed [No. 454-iii]

[Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].

11Welsh Affairs,—(1) Second Special Report from the Welsh Affairs Committee [Transport in Wales: Response of the Government to the Second Report of the Committee, Session 2002–03]; to be printed [No. 580]; and

(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Empowering Children and Young People in Wales]; to be printed [No. 433–iv]

[Mr Martyn Jones].

12Work and Pensions,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Work and Pensions Committee [Childcare for Working Parents]; to be printed [No. 564-ii] [Sir Archy Kirkwood].


[No. 71; WH, No. 44.]

Wednesday 26th March 2003.

The House sitting in Westminster Hall

The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.

Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned—(Mr Phil Woolas);

And the sitting having continued for two and a half hours after Two o'clock, it was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 4.30 p.m.


[No. 72.]

Thursday 27th March 2003.

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Bill O'Brien reported from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Representation of the People (Northern Ireland) (Variation of Specified Documents) Regulations 2003.

Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

2Seventeenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Joe Benton reported from the Seventeenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Education (Objections to Admission Arrangements) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2901) and the Education Act 2002 (Modifications of Provisions) (No. 2) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2953).

Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

Community Care (Delayed Discharges etc.) Bill,—The Lords do not insist on one of their Amendments to the Community Care (Delayed Discharges etc.) Bill to which this House has disagreed but propose Amendments in lieu thereof, to which they desire the agreement of this House; they agree to an Amendment made by this House to a Lords Amendment, with a further Amendment to the Lords Amendment, to which they desire the agreement of this House; they agree without Amendment to another Amendment made by this House to a Lords Amendment; and they do not insist on the remaining Amendments to which the Commons have disagreed.

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4Community Care (Delayed Discharges etc.) Bill,—Lords Amendments in lieu of an Amendment to the Community Care (Delayed Discharges etc.) Bill to which the Commons have disagreed, and a further Lords Amendment to a Lords Amendment to which the Commons have agreed with an Amendment, to be considered to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 84].

5Local Communities Sustainability Bill,—The Order for reading the Local Communities Sustainability Bill a second time to-morrow was read and discharged.

Bill to be read a second time on Friday 13th June.

6Anti-social Behaviour Bill,—Mr Secretary Blunkett, supported by the Prime Minister, Mr Secretary Prescott, Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr Secretary Straw, Secretary Margaret Beckett, Mr Secretary Clarke and Mr Bob Ainsworth, presented a Bill to make provision in connection with anti-social behaviour: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 83].

Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Anti-social Behaviour Bill be printed [Bill 83–EN].

7Police (Northern Ireland) Bill [Lords] [2nd allotted day],—The House, according to Order, proceeded further to consider the Police (Northern Ireland) Bill [Lords], as amended in the Standing Committee.

Another Amendment (No. 60) proposed to the Bill, in page 16, line 1, to leave out Clause No. 23.—(Lady Hermon.)

Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Another Amendment (No. 61) proposed to the Bill, in page 16, line 9, at the end, to insert the words—

‘(d) the information would, or would be likely to, prejudice the prevention or detection of crime or the apprehension or prosecution of offenders.'—(Lady Hermon.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mark Hoban, Mr Laurence Robertson: 147.

Tellers for the Noes, Mr Phil Woolas, Gillian Merron: 241.

Amendments (Nos. 30 to 32, 9 to 14, 3 to 7 and 18 to 29) made to the Bill.

Another Amendment (No. 86) proposed to the Bill, in page 8, line 25, to leave out Clause No. 11.—(Mr John Taylor.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Laurence Robertson, Hugh Robertson: 117.

Tellers for the Noes, Gillian Merron, Derek Twigg: 275.

Another Amendment (No. 45) proposed to the Bill, in page 9, line 8, to leave out the words ‘he has' and insert the words ‘the Board and the Secretary of State have', instead thereof.—(Lady Hermon.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, David Burnside, Mr Roy Beggs: 7.

Tellers for the Noes, Joan Ryan, Mr Phil Woolas: 266.

Another Amendment (No. 8) made to the Bill.

Another Clause (Appointment of constables with special policing skills)—(Jane Kennedy)—brought up, and read the first and second time.

Question put, That the Clause be added to the Bill.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Nick Ainger, Jim Fitzpatrick: 258.

Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Iris Robinson, Mr Gregory Campbell: 6.

Another Clause (Appointments to the Police Service of Northern Ireland)—(Mr Roy Beggs)—brought up and read the first time.

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Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Laurence Robertson, Hugh Robertson: 139.

Tellers for the Noes, Mr Nick Ainger, Jim Fitzpatrick: 229.

Another Clause (Members of PSNI engaged on other police service)—(Angela Smith)—brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.

Other Amendments (Nos. 15 to 17) made to the Bill.

It being Six o'clock, the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [yesterday], put the Questions necessary to dispose of the remaining Amendments and new Clause moved by a Minister of the Crown.

Another Clause (Codes of practice)—(Jane Kennedy)—brought up, and added to the Bill.

Other Amendments (Nos. 36, 1, 2, 33 to 35 and 37) made to the Bill.

A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the Bill be now read the third time;

The House divided.

Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Nick Ainger, Jim Fitzpatrick: 216.

Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mark Hoban, Mr Laurence Robertson: 98.

So the Question was agreed to.

The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed, with Amendments.

8Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from—

(1) residents of the Bolton South East constituency against the unrestricted opening of pharmacies able to dispense NHS prescriptions;

(2) residents of the Epsom and Ewell area against inequalities in police pay between London and Surrey and for an end to under-funding of police in Surrey;

were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

9Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Jim Fitzpatrick.)

And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till nineteen minutes to Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 7.41 p.m.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

1Northern Ireland,—Draft Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Modification) Order 2003 [by Act]; with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

Other Papers:

2Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance,—Account of the Legal Aid Fund (Northern Ireland) for 2001–02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 575] [Clerk of the House].

3Local Government Finance,—Accounts of the Pooling of Non-Domestic Rates and Redistribution to Local Authorities in England for 2001–02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 577] [Clerk of the House].

4National Heritage (Scotland),—Accounts of the National Library of Scotland for 1999–2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 572] [Clerk of the House].

5National Lottery,—(1) Accounts of the National Lottery Distribution Fund for 2001–02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 573] [Clerk of the House]; and

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(2) Report and Financial Statements of the Arts Council of Northern Ireland Lottery Fund for 2001–02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

6Office of the Deputy Prime Minister,—Government's Response to the Third Report of the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee Report of Session 2002–03: Affordable Homes [by Command] [Cm. 5783] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

7Police (Northern Ireland),—Accounts of the Independent Commission for Police Complaints for Northern Ireland for 2000–01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 574] [Clerk of the House].

8Probation Board (Northern Ireland),—Accounts of the Probation Board for Northern Ireland for 2001–02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 576] [Clerk of the House].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1Waste and Emissions Trading Bill [Lords],—The Speaker has appointed Mr David Amess an additional Chairmen of Standing Committee B in respect of the Bill.

2Aviation (Offences) Bill,—The Speaker has appointed Miss Ann Widdecombe Chairman of Standing Committee C in respect of the Bill.

3Draft Department of Transport (Fees) Amendment Order 2003,—The Speaker has appointed David Taylor Chairman of the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Order, in place of Mrs Marion Roe.

4Education (Objections to Admission Arrangements) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2901) and Education Act 2002 (Modifications of Provisions) (No. 2) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I. 2002, No. 2953),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Huw Edwards, Estelle Morris, Mark Tami and Mr Phil Willis from the Seventeenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Roger Casale, Mr George Howarth, Mr Peter Kilfoyle and Norman Lamb.

European Standing Committees

5The Speaker has appointed David Taylor Chairman of European Standing Committee C in respect of European Union Document No. 12228/02 on the Scrutiny of Energy Supply.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

1Health,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Health Committee [The Victoria Climbie" Inquiry]; to be printed [No. 570-i] [Mr David Hinchliffe].

2Lord Chancellor's Department,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on the Lord Chancellor's Department [Courts Bill]; to be printed [No. 526-iii]; and

(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The role of the Lord Chancellor]; to be printed [No. 584-i]

[Mr A. J. Beith].


[No. 72; WH, No. 45.]

Thursday 27th March 2003.

The House sitting in Westminster Hall

The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.

Adjournment (Strategic Export Controls—First Joint Report from the Defence, Foreign Affairs, International Development and Trade and Industry Committees, Session 2001–02, and the Government's response thereto),—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Charlotte Atkins.)

And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 1st April.

[Adjourned at 6.36 p.m.


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[No. 73.]

Friday 28th March 2003.

The House met at half-past Nine o'clock.

1The Speaker's Absence,—The House being met, and the Speaker having leave of absence pursuant to paragraph (3) of Standing Order No. 3 (Deputy Speaker), Sylvia Heal, the First Deputy Chairman of Ways and Means, proceeded to the Table.

PRAYERS.

2The First Deputy Chairman of Ways and Means took the Chair as Deputy Speaker.

3Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from—

(1) users of St Ives Pharmacy, Ashley Heath, Ringwood, and other residents against the unrestricted opening of pharmacies able to dispense NHS prescriptions; and

(2) users of local pharmacies in the Christchurch community against the unrestricted opening of pharmacies able to dispense NHS prescriptions

were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

4Sustainable Energy Bill,—The Sustainable Energy Bill was, according to Order, read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee.

5Human Fertilisation and Embryology (Deceased Fathers) Bill,—The Human Fertilisation and Embryology (Deceased Fathers) Bill was, according to Order, read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee.

6High Hedges (No. 2) Bill,—The High Hedges (No. 2) Bill was, according to Order, read a second time and stood committed to a Standing Committee.

7Disabled People (Duties of Public Authorities) Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Disabled People (Duties of Public Authorities) Bill;

And it being half-past Two o'clock, the Deputy Speaker interrupted the business.

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 16th May.

8Government Powers (Limitations) Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Government Powers (Limitations) Bill;

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 4th April.

9Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Charlotte Atkins);

And the Motion having been made after half-past Two o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then Three o'clock, till Monday 31st March.

[Adjourned at 3 p.m.


APPENDIX

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

1Criminal Law,—Prosecution of Offences (Youth Courts Time Limits) (Revocation and Transitional Provision) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 917), dated 26th March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

2Road Traffic,—Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (Borough of Slough) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 898), dated 27th March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

Other Papers:

3Animal Health,—Contingency Plan by Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs on Foot and Mouth Disease [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

4Coal Industry,—Report of the Office of the Subsidence Adviser for 2001–02 [by Statutory Instrument] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

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5Competition Commission,—Report by the Competition Commission on the proposed transfers between Gannett UK Limited and SMG plc [by Command] [Cm. 5782] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

6Public Petitions,—Observations by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on the Petition [4th March] from Ms Tracy Trevillion, Mrs Dorothy Best and others against removal of controls on the opening of pharmacies [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].

7Sea Fisheries,—Report by the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs on the proceedings under sections 1 to 5 of the Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) Act 1967, for 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

8Treaty Series (No. 14, 2003),—Exchange of Notes, done at Freetown on 6th December 2001 and Conakry on 9th April 2002, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Republic of Guinea concerning Certain Commercial Debts (The United Kingdom/Guinea Debt Agreement No. 7 (2001)) [by Command] [Cm. 5786] [Mr Secretary Straw].



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