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Chronological Index
Alphabetical Index - Part I
Alphabetical Index - Part II
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[No. 143.] Monday 20th October 2003.
The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Courts Bill [Lords],—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Courts Bill [Lords], as amended in the Standing Committee. |
A Clause (Judicial independence)—(Mr David Heath)—brought up and read the first time.
Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Tom Brake, Annette Brooke: 122.
Tellers for the Noes, Margaret Moran, Mr John Heppell: 284.
Another Clause (Circuits)—(Mr David Heath)—brought up and read the first time.
Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—Clause, by leave, withdrawn.
Amendment (No. 1) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 5, to leave out the words ‘and effective' and insert the words ‘, effective and accessible', instead thereof.—(Mr David Heath.)
Question put, That the Amendment be made.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Tom Brake, Annette Brooke: 107.
Tellers for the Noes, Gillian Merron, Jim Fitzpatrick: 275.
Another Amendment (No. 56) proposed to the Bill, in page 3, line 35, to leave out from the word ‘specifying' to the first word ‘the' in line 38 and insert the words—
‘(a) in respect of areas except London, areas which are the same as, or fall entirely within, the police areas listed in Schedule 1 to the Police Act 1996 (c. 16) (division of England and Wales, except London, into police areas), and
(b) in respect of London, at least five separate areas falling entirely within', instead thereof.—(Mr David Heath.)
Question put, That the Amendment be made.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Tom Brake, Annette Brooke: 98.
Tellers for the Noes, Gillian Merron, Jim Fitzpatrick: 278.
Another Amendment (No. 4) proposed to the Bill, in page 5, line 13, at the end, to insert the words—
‘( ) No local justice area may include areas which form part of more than one area specified under section 4.'.—(Mr David Heath.)
Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Amendment (No. 37) made to the Bill.
Another Amendment (No. 8) proposed to the Bill, in page 14, line 14, after the word ‘courts', to insert the words ‘(including family proceedings courts and youth courts)'.—(Mr David Heath.)
Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Another Amendment (No. 6) proposed to the Bill, in page 14, line 33, after the word ‘place', to insert the words ‘in the local justice area'.—(Mr David Heath.)
Question put, That the Amendment be made.
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Tom Brake, Annette Brooke: 86.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Jim Fitzpatrick: 278.
Another Amendment (No. 53) proposed to the Bill, in page 45, line 6, to leave out the word ‘and'.—(Mr Nick Hawkins.)
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Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Another Amendment (No. 38) made to the Bill.
Another Amendment (No. 9) proposed to the Bill, in page 49, line 17, after the word ‘may', to insert the words ‘, if the claimant consents'.—(Mr Andrew Dismore.)
Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Other Amendments (Nos. 39 and 40) made to the Bill.
A Schedule—(Transitional Provisions and Savings)—(Mr Christopher Leslie)—brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill.
Other Amendments (Nos. 41 to 43, 11 to 35, 44, 36 and 45) made to the Bill.
The Bill was read the third time and passed, with Amendments.
| 2 | Urban Development,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Thurrock Development Corporation (Area and Constitution) Order 2003, dated 23rd June 2003, a copy of which was laid before this House on 2nd July, be approved—(Margaret Moran):—It was agreed to. |
| 3 | Social Security,—Ordered, That the following Statutory Instrument be referred to a Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation: the Housing Benefit (General) (Local Housing Allowance) Amendment Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2399).—(Margaret Moran.) |
| 4 | Draft Gambling Bill (Joint Committee) (Power to Travel Outside the United Kingdom),—Ordered, That the Order of the House of 10th July 2003 appointing a Select Committee to join with a Committee of the Lords to consider and report on any Clauses of a draft Gambling Bill presented to both Houses by a Minister of the Crown be amended by leaving out the words ‘within the United Kingdom'.—(Margaret Moran.) |
Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith.
| 5 | Environmental Audit,—Ordered, That Ian Lucas be discharged from the Environmental Audit Committee and Paul Flynn be added.—(Margaret Moran.) |
| 6 | Joint Committee on Human Rights,—Ordered, That Vera Baird be discharged from the Joint Committee on Human Rights and Mr Paul Stinchcombe be added.—(Margaret Moran.) |
| 7 | Accommodation and Works,—Ordered, That Syd Rapson be discharged from the Accommodation and Works Committee and Mr Stephen Hepburn be added.—(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.) |
| 8 | Defence,—Ordered, That Patrick Mercer, Jim Knight and Syd Rapson be discharged from the Defence Committee and Mr Peter Viggers, Mike Gapes and Mr Dai Havard be added.—(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.) |
| 9 | Education and Skills,—Ordered, That Ms Meg Munn be discharged from the Education and Skills Committee and Helen Jones be added.—(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.) |
| 10 | Health,—Ordered, That Andy Burnham and Julia Drown be discharged from the Health Committee and Mr Keith Bradley and Mr Jon Owen Jones be added.—(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.) |
| 11 | Northern Ireland Affairs,—Ordered, That Mr Stephen McCabe be discharged from the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee and Mr Iain Luke be added.—(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.) |
| 12 | Scottish Affairs,—Ordered, That Eric Joyce be discharged from the Scottish Affairs Committee and Mr John MacDougall be added.—(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.) |
| 13 | Trade and Industry,—Ordered, That Dr Ashok Kumar and Mrs Jackie Lawrence be discharged from the Trade and Industry Committee and Mr Michael Clapham and Judy Mallaber be added.—(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.) |
| 14 | Treasury,—Ordered, That Dr Nick Palmer be discharged from the Treasury Committee and John Mann be added.—(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.) |
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| 15 | Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from Katrina Wynne for the removal of Crown immunity in relation to health and safety legislation was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed. |
| 16 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Vernon Coaker.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-seven minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.33 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 17th October 2003 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O. No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 158 (Presentation of command papers):
| 1 | Defence, Foreign Affairs, International Development and Trade and Industry,—Government Response to the First Joint Report from the Defence Committee, the Foreign Affairs Committee, the International Development Committee and the Trade and Industry Committee, Session 2002–03, on the Government's Proposals for Secondary Legislation under the Export Control Act [Cm. 5988] [Ms Secretary Hewitt]. |
| 2 | Health,—Government Response to the Sixth Report from the Health Committee, Session 2002–03, on the Victoria Climbie Inquiry Report [Cm. 5992] [Mr Secretary Clarke]. |
| 3 | Investigatory Powers,—Explanatory Memorandum to the draft Retention of Communications Data (Extension of Initial Period) Order 2003 [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. |
Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 17th October 2003 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O. No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 159 (Presentation of statutory instruments):
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 4 | Food,—Food (Provisions relating to Labelling) (England) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2647), dated 9th October 2003 [Mr Secretary Reid]. |
Papers presented or laid upon the Table on Monday 20th October 2003:
Other Papers:
| 5 | Defence,—Ministry of Defence Minute, dated 20th October 2003, concerning the gifting of a non-core MOD site in Northern Ireland to the Office of the First Minister/Deputy First Minister of the Northern Ireland Executive [by Command] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. |
| 6 | Northern Ireland,—Account of the Public Income and Expenditure of Northern Ireland for 2002–03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 1123] [Mr Secretary Murphy]. |
| 7 | School Standards and Framework,—Accounts of the:— |
(1) East Cleveland Education Action Zone, and
(2) South East Sheffield Education Action Zone
for 2002–03, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 1187 and 1185] [Clerk of the House].
Papers withdrawn:
| 8 | Explanatory Memorandum to the draft Retention of Communications Data (Extension of Initial Period) Order 2003 [laid 11th September]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 127) on Special Grants for reducing fire deaths in those areas in England suffering the highest fatality rate,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Paul Clark and Paul Truswell from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Report); and nominated in substitution Mr Stephen Pound and Bridget Prentice. |
| 2 | Working Time (Amendment) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1684),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Dr Vincent Cable from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Malcolm Bruce. |
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APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Education and Skills,—Fifth Special Report from the Education and Skills Committee [Government Response to the Sixth Report from the Committee, Session 2002–03, on The Work of Ofsted]; to be printed [No. 1190] [Mr Barry Sheerman]. |
| 2 | Public Accounts,—(1) Forty-third Report from the Committee of Public Accounts [Fisheries Enforcement in England]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 752]; |
(2) Forty-fourth Report from the Committee [New IT Systems for Magistrates' Courts: the Libra Project]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 434]; and
(3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Procurement of Vaccines by the Department of Health]; to be printed [No. 1209-i]
[Mr Edward Leigh].
| 3 | Science and Technology,—(1) Seventh Special Report from the Science and Technology Committee [Government Response to the Fifth Report from the Committee, Session 2002–03, on The Work of the Natural Environment Research Council]; to be printed [No. 1161]; |
(2) Eighth Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the Sixth Report from the Committee, Session 2002–03, on UK Science and Europe: Value for Money?]; to be printed [No. 1162];
(3) Eighth Report from the Committee [The Work of the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 936];
(4) Ninth Report from the Committee [The Scientific Response to Terrorism], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 415]; and
(5) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Government Support for Nanotechnology]; to be printed [No. 1160-i]
[Dr Ian Gibson].
[No. 144.] Tuesday 21st October 2003.
The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Transas Group Bill,—The Transas Group Bill was read the third time, and passed. |
| 2 | Mersey Tunnels Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for further consideration of the Mersey Tunnels Bill, as amended; |
Ordered, That the Bill be further considered on Wednesday 29th October at Four o'clock.
| 3 | Regulatory Reform,—Mr Peter Pike reported from the Regulatory Reform Committee the following Resolutions: |
That the draft Regulatory Reform (Business Tenancies) (England and Wales) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 17th September, should be approved.
That the draft Regulatory Reform (Gaming Machines) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 17th September, should be approved.
The Committee came to these Resolutions without a Division.
| 4 | First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Joe Benton reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 127) on Special Grants for reducing fire deaths in those areas in England suffering the highest fatality rate. |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
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| 5 | Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows: |
The Lords have agreed to the Sustainable Energy Bill, without Amendment.
| 6 | European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill; |
And a Motion being made, and the Question being put, That the Bill be now read a second time;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Gillian Merron: 306.
Tellers for the Noes, Richard Younger-Ross, Mr Robert Syms: 172.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Bill was accordingly read a second time.
| 7 | European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill (Programme),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 29th October 2002], That the following provisions shall apply to the European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill: |
Committal
1. The Bill shall be committed to a Standing Committee.
Proceedings in Standing Committee
2. Proceedings in the Standing Committee shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion on Thursday 30th October 2003.
3. The Standing Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on which it meets.
Consideration and Third Reading
4. Proceedings on consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour before the moment of interruption on the day on which those proceedings are commenced.
5. Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the moment of interruption on the day on which proceedings on consideration are commenced.
6. Sessional Order B (Programming Committees) made on 28th June 2001 shall not apply to proceedings on consideration and Third Reading.
Other proceedings
7. Any other proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments or on any further messages from the Lords) may be programmed—(Margaret Moran);
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Gillian Merron, Mr Fraser Kemp: 302.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Robert Syms, Hugh Robertson: 180.
So the Question was agreed to.
| 8 | European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill [Money],—Her Majesty's Recommendation having been signified to the proposed Motion relating to European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill [Money]; |
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill it is expedient to authorise—
(1) the payment out of money provided by Parliament of—
(a) any expenses of the Secretary of State in making arrangements for the purposes of the Act in connection with the holding of the European Parliamentary general election of 2004;
(b) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums so payable under any other enactment other Act are payable out of that Fund;
(2) the payment out of the Consolidated Fund of any increase attributable to the Act in the sums which under any other Act are payable out of that Fund—(Mr John Heppell):—It was agreed to.
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| 9 | European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill (Carry-over),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [29th October 2002], That, if at the conclusion of this Session of Parliament, proceedings on the European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill have not been completed, they shall be resumed in the next Session—(Mr John Heppell); |
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Gillian Merron, Mr Fraser Kemp: 349.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Robert Syms, Hugh Robertson: 125.
So the Question was agreed to.
| 10 | Electronic Communications,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Electronic Communications (Networks and Services) (Penalties) (Rules for Calculation of Turnover) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 8th September, be approved—(Mr John Heppell):—It was agreed to. |
| 11 | Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from Hospice Hope for improved hospice and palliative care provision in North West Leicestershire was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed. |
| 12 | Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr John Heppell); |
And the Motion having been made after Seven o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then two minutes to Eight o'clock, till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 7.58 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Other Papers:
| 1 | Competition Commission,—Report by the Competition Commission on the proposed transfers between Newsquest (London) Limited and Independent News & Media PLC [by Command] [Cm. 5951] [Ms Secretary Hewitt]. |
| 2 | Culture, Media and Sport,—Department for Culture, Media and Sport Minute, dated 21st October 2003, concerning a contingent liability consequent upon indemnification relating to the loan of a sculpture entitled ‘Room 101' by Rachel Whiteread to the Victoria and Albert Museum [by Command] [Secretary Tessa Jowell]. |
| 3 | Development of Tourism,—Report and Accounts of VisitBritain for 2002–03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell]. |
| 4 | National Statistics,—Report for 2002–03 of National Statistics [by Command]; to be printed [No. 1180] [Ruth Kelly]. |
| 5 | Public Petitions,—Observations by— |
(1) the Deputy Prime Minister on the Petition [15th September] from Cllr Ruth Burrow and residents of East Devon against a new town being built in East Devon, and
(2) the Secretary of State for Health on the Petition [17th July] from residents of Reading against the unrestricted opening of pharmacies able to dispense NHS prescriptions
[by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].
APPENDIX II
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Constitutional Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Constitutional Affairs Committee [Immigration and Asylum: the Government's proposed changes to publicly funded immigration and asylum work]; to be printed [No. 1171-ii] [Mr A. J. Beith]. |
| 2 | Draft Civil Contingencies Bill,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Joint Committee on the Draft Civil Contingencies Bill; to be printed [No. 1074-vi] [Dr Lewis Moonie]. |
| 3 | Draft Mental Incapacity Bill,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Joint Committee on the Draft Mental Incapacity Bill; to be printed [No. 1083-viii] [Mrs Angela Browning]. |
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| 4 | Home Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Home Affairs Committee [Asylum Applications]; to be printed [No. 692-viii] [Mr John Denham]. |
| 5 | Office of the Deputy Prime Minster: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Office of the Deputy Prime Minster: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee [The Fire Service]; to be printed [No. 1168-i] [Andrew Bennett]. |
| 6 | Regulatory Reform,—Fourteenth Report from the Regulatory Reform Committee [Draft Regulatory Reform (Business Tenancies) (England and Wales) Order 2003 and the Draft Regulatory Reform (Gaming Machines) Order 2003]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 1210] [Mr Peter Pike]. |
| 7 | Statutory Instruments,—Twenty-eighth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 96-xxviii]; and |
(2) Third Report from the Select Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with a Memorandum laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 126-iii]
[Mr David Tredinnick].
| 8 | Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [The Financial Services Authority]; to be printed [No. 1211-i] [Mr John McFall]. |
[No. 144; WH, No. 94.]
Tuesday 21st October 2003.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
| Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned—(Gillian Merron); |
And the sitting having continued for two and a half hours after Two o'clock, it was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 4.30 p.m.
[No. 145.] Wednesday 22nd October 2003.
The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Hereford Markets Bill [Lords],—The Hereford Markets Bill [Lords] was read the third time, and passed, without Amendment. |
| 2 | Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mrs Marion Roe reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Working Time (Amendment) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1684). |
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
| 3 | Northern Ireland Grand Committee,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 116 (Northern Ireland Grand Committee (sittings)), That the Order of the House [8th September] referring the matter of the future direction of community relations policy in Northern Ireland to the Northern Ireland Grand Committee for consideration on Thursday 23rd October be discharged—(Charlotte Atkins):—It was agreed to. |
| 4 | Motorcycles (Bus Lanes),—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to allow motorcycles to use bus lanes: And that Mr Bill Wiggin, Mr Don Foster, Angela Watkinson, Mr Mark Todd, Mr Stephen Pound, Peter Bottomley, Dr Brian Iddon, Mr Robert Key, Mr Adrian Flook, Mr Bill Tynan, Mrs Jackie Lawrence and Mr Roger Gale do prepare and bring it in. |
| 5 | Motorcycles (Bus Lanes) Bill,—Mr Bill Wiggin accordingly presented a Bill to allow motorcycles to use bus lanes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 21st November and to be printed [Bill 166]. |
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| 6 | Opposition Day [19th allotted day],—It being an allotted day at the disposal of the Leader of the Opposition in pursuance of Standing Order No. 14 (Arrangement of public business), the House proceeded to consider Opposition business. |
Judicial Inquiry on Iraq,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House is concerned at growing public confusion since the summer adjournment as a result of increasingly conflicting accounts of intelligence relating to and events leading up to the recent Iraq war and what has happened since; and calls for the setting up of a comprehensive independent judicial inquiry into the Government's handling of the run-up to the war, of the war itself, and of its aftermath, and into the legal advice which it received—(Mr Michael Ancram);
An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word ‘House' to the end of the Question and add the words ‘notes that the Intelligence and Security Committee, established by Parliament by statute, and the appropriate body to consider the intelligence relating to Iraq, and the Foreign Affairs Committee have both carried out inquiries into matters relating to the decision to go to war in Iraq; further notes that substantial oral and written evidence, by and on behalf of the Government, was provided to both inquiries; believes that there is no case for a further inquiry, including a judicial inquiry; and further believes that, following the passage of UN Security Council Resolution 1511 on 17th October 2003, attention should now be focused on building a better future for Iraq and its people, and on offering full support to the coalition, including British military and civilian personnel, and the United Nations in this endeavour', instead thereof.—(Mr Secretary Straw.)
And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question;
| 7 | Deferred Divisions,—The Deputy Speaker announced the results of the Division which had been deferred to this day, pursuant to the Orders of the House [28th June 2001 and 29th October 2002]: |
Recovery Plan for Cod and the Recovery of the Northern Hake Stock,—That this House takes note of European Union Documents No. 9081/03, draft Council Regulation establishing measures for the recovery of cod stocks, and No. 10980/03, draft Council Regulation establishing measures for the recovery of the Northern hake stock; welcomes the Government's support of the adoption of recovery plans for cod and hake in which effort control and other measures can play a part, and also supports the Government's intention to ensure a close dialogue with the fishing industry in developing these plans.
Ayes: 251.
Noes: 168.
So the Question was agreed to.
| 8 | Opposition Day,—Judicial Inquiry on Iraq,—The Question being again proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question; |
And the Question being put;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Angela Watkinson, Mr Mark Field: 190.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Joan Ryan: 303.
So the Question was negatived.
And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments);
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Joan Ryan: 293.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mark Field, Angela Watkinson: 181.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.
Resolved, That this House notes that the Intelligence and Security Committee, established by Parliament by statute, and the appropriate body to consider the intelligence relating to Iraq, and the Foreign Affairs Committee have both carried out inquiries into matters relating to the decision to go to war in Iraq; further notes that substantial oral and written evidence, by and on behalf of the Government, was provided to both inquiries; believes that there is no case for a further inquiry, including a judicial inquiry; and further believes that, following the passage of UN Security Council Resolution 1511 on 17th October 2003, attention should now be focused on building a better future for Iraq and its people, and on offering full support to the coalition, including British military and civilian personnel, and the United Nations in this endeavour.
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| 9 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr John Spellar.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till five minutes to Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 7.55 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
| 1 | Northern Ireland,—(1) Draft Northern Ireland Assembly (Elections) (Amendment) Order 2003, |
(2) Northern Ireland Assembly (Elections and Periods of Suspension) Act 2003 (Consequential Modifications) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2696), dated 21st October 2003, and
(3) Northern Ireland (Date of Next Assembly Poll) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2697), dated 21st October 2003,
[by Act], with Explanatory Memoranda thereon [by Command] [Mr Secretary Murphy].
Other Papers:
| 2 | Government Resources and Accounts,—Resource Accounts of the:— |
(1) Armed Forces Pension Scheme, and
(2) Department for Culture, Media and Sport
for 2002–03, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 1152 and 1129] [Ruth Kelly].
| 3 | Health,—Government Response to the Seventh Report from the Health Committee, Session 2002–03, on Patient and Public Involvement in the NHS [by Command] [Cm. 6005] [Mr Secretary Reid]. |
| 4 | Statutory Instruments (Notification),—Communication declaring that the undermentioned Statutory Instruments had come into operation before copies were laid before Parliament, and explaining why such copies had not been so laid before the Instruments came into operation: |
(1) Northern Ireland Assembly (Elections and Periods of Suspension) Act 2003 (Consequential Modifications) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2696); and
(2) Northern Ireland (Date of Next Assembly Poll) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2697)
[by Standing Order] [Clerk of the House].
| 5 | Treaty Series (No. 41, 2003),—Second Supplementary List of Ratifications, Accessions, Withdrawals, Etc., for 2003 [by Command] [Cm. 5998] [Mr Secretary Straw]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee B; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty-one Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Crispin Blunt, Annette Brooke, Mr Alan Campbell, Geraint Davies, Mr David Drew, Mr Tom Harris, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr David Heath, Mr Lindsay Hoyle, Mr Kevan Jones, Mr Mark Lazarowicz, Mr Christopher Leslie, Mr Andrew Mitchell, Bridget Prentice, Joyce Quin, John Robertson, Ms Dari Taylor, Sir Teddy Taylor, Mr Neil Turner, Mr David Wilshire and Pete Wishart.
| 2 | Arms Control and Disarmament (Inspections) Bill [Lords]: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee E; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty-one Members to serve on the Committee: Gregory Barker, John Barrett, Mr Parmjit Dhanda, Mr Andrew Dismore, Mr Brian H. Donohoe, Paul Farrelly, Mr Fabian Hamilton, Mr Dai Havard, Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger, Ann McKechin, Mr Denis MacShane, Mr Michael Moore, Mr Jim Murphy, Linda Perham, Mr James Plaskitt, Angus Robertson, Hugh Robertson, Mr Mark Simmonds, Mr Richard Spring, Dr Phyllis Starkey and Dr Gavin Strang.
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| 3 | Draft Dental Auxiliaries (Amendment) Regulations 2003: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr John Bercow, Mr Simon Burns, Mrs Ann Cryer, Mr Wayne David, Mr Mark Francois, Jim Knight, Mr John Lyons, Mr Paul Marsden, Mr Jim Marshall, Mr Austin Mitchell, Mr Andrew Rosindell, Joan Ryan, Mr Malcolm Savidge, Mark Tami, Dr Jenny Tonge and Ms Rosie Winterton.
| 4 | Draft Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2003: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: John Barrett, Mr David Borrow, Mr Christopher Chope, Mr Michael Clapham, Clive Efford, Mr Mark Field, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Terry Lewis, Mr John MacDougall, Gillian Merron, Mr Andrew Mitchell, Mr Brian Sedgemore, Rachel Squire, John Thurso, Mr David Tredinnick and Mr Shaun Woodward.
| 5 | Local Government Finance Special Grant Report (No. 128) on Dealing with Disadvantage Grant: |
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Report to the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Mr David Borrow, Mr Christopher Chope, Mr Terry Davis, Jim Dobbin, Mr Mark Field, Mr John Horam, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mr David Jamieson, Tony Lloyd, Chris Mole, Mr David Ruffley, Geraldine Smith, Sir Robert Smith, John Thurso and Mr Bill Tynan.
European Standing Committees
| 6 | European Union Document No. 5268/03, relating to Emissions of volatile organic compounds from solvents used in paints, has been referred to European Standing Committee A. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| 1 | Defence,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Defence Committee [Lessons of Iraq]; to be printed [No. 695-x] [Mr David Crausby]. |
| 2 | Draft Mental Incapacity Bill,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Joint Committee on the Draft Mental Incapacity Bill; to be printed [No. 1083-ix] [Mrs Angela Browning]. |
| 3 | Education and Skills,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Skills Committee [Secondary Education: School Admissions]; to be printed [No. 1075-iii] [Mr Barry Sheerman]. |
| 4 | Environmental Audit,—Sixth Special Report from the Environmental Audit Committee [Government Response to the Tenth Report from the Committee, Session 2002–03, on Learning the Sustainability Lesson]; to be printed [No. 1221] [Mr Peter Ainsworth]. |
| 5 | Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,—(1) Fourteenth Special Report from the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [Government's Reply to the Thirteenth Report from the Committee, Session 2002–03, on Poultry Farming in the United Kingdom]; to be printed [No. 1219]; and |
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The conduct of the GM public debate]; to be printed [No. 1220]
[Mr David Curry].
| 6 | European Scrutiny,—Thirty-fourth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 63-xxxiv] [Mr Michael Connarty]. |
| 7 | Northern Ireland Affairs,—(1) Eighth Report from the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee [The Illegal Drugs Trade and Drug Culture in Northern Ireland]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 1217-I]; and |
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Separation of Paramilitary Prisoners in HMP Maghaberry]; to be printed [No. 1218-i]
[Mr Michael Mates].
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| 8 | Public Accounts,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [Warm Front: Helping to Combat Fuel Poverty]; to be printed [No. 1216-i] [Mr Edward Leigh]. |
| 9 | Transport,—(1) Second Special Report from the Transport Committee [Government Response to the Fourth Report from the Committee, on Railways in the North of England]; to be printed [No. 1212]; and |
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Future of the Railways]; to be printed [No. 875-iv]
[Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
| 10 | Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Sub-Committee of the Treasury Committee [Civil Registration]; to be printed [No. 1214-i] [Mr John McFall]. |
| 11 | Welsh Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Welsh Affairs Committee [Railways in Wales]; to be printed [No. 1029-iii] [Mr Martyn Jones]. |
| 12 | Work and Pensions,—(1) First Special Report from the Work and Pensions Committee [Government's Response to the Fifth Report from the Committee, on Childcare for Working Parents]; to be printed [No. 1184]; and |
(2) Sixth Report from the Committee [European Social Fund], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 680]
[Sir Archy Kirkwood].
[No. 145; WH, No. 95.]
Wednesday 22nd October 2003.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall
The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
| Adjournment,—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Paul Clark.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 4.30 p.m.
[No. 146.] Thursday 23rd October 2003.
The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
| 1 | Water Bill [Lords],—Mr Bill O'Brien reported from Standing Committee D, That it had gone through the Water Bill [Lords], and made Amendments thereunto. |
Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered on Monday 27th October; and to be printed [Bill 167].
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 1215].
| 2 | Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows: |
The Lords have agreed to the Female Genital Mutilation Bill, without Amendment.
The Lords communicate that they have ordered that the quorum of the Select Committee appointed to join with a Committee of this House as the Joint Committee on Human Rights should be two.
The Lords communicate that they have made the following Amendment to the Order [9th September] relating to the appointment of a Joint Committee on a draft Gambling Bill: leave out the words ‘within the United Kingdom'.
| 3 | Adjournment (Defence procurement),—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Joan Ryan); |
And it being Six o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.
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| 4 | Welsh Affairs,—Ordered, That Mr Bill Wiggin be discharged from the Welsh Affairs Committee and Mr Nigel Evans be added.—(Jim Fitzpatrick, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.) |
| 5 | Work and Pensions,—Ordered, That James Purnell and Mr David Stewart be discharged from the Work and Pensions Committee and Vera Baird and David Hamilton be added.—(Jim Fitzpatrick, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.) |
| 6 | Business of the House,—Ordered, That, at the sitting on Wednesday 29th October, Private Business set down for Four o'clock by the Chairman of Ways and Means shall be entered upon at the conclusion of Government business (whether before, at or after Four o'clock) and may then be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour.—(Jim Fitzpatrick.) |
| 7 | Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Jim Fitzpatrick.) |
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-four minutes past Six o'clock, adjourned till Monday 27th October.
[Adjourned at 6.24 p.m.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
| 1 | Education,—Education (Revocation of Spent Provisions) (England) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2694), dated 20th October 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Clarke]. |
| 2 | Income Tax,—Non-resident Insurance Companies Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2714), dated 22nd October 2003 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo]. |
| 3 | Road Traffic,—Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (Metropolitan Borough of Wirral) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2711), dated 21st October 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling]. |
| 4 | Taxes,—Petroleum Revenue Tax (Electronic Communications) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2718), dated 23rd October 2003 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo]. |
Other Papers:
| 5 | Government Resource and Accounts,—Report and Accounts of the Treasury Solicitor's Department for 2002–03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1076] [The Solicitor General]. |
| 6 | Honours, Decorations and Medals,—Paper, entitled The Naval General Service Medal and The General Service Medal (Army and Royal Air Force) [by Command] [Cm. 5999] [Mr Secretary Hoon]. |
| 7 | Office of the Deputy Prime Minster,—Government Response to the Twelfth Report from the Committee on the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Planning, Local Government and the Regions, Session 2002–03, on the Evening Economy and the Urban Renaissance [by Command] [Cm. 5971] [Mr Secretary Prescott]. |
| 8 | Public Petitions,—Observations by the Secretary of State for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs on the Petition [17th July] from the Yellow Advertiser for the reduction of smells emanating from Pitsea Tip [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House]. |
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
| 1 | European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill: |
(1) The Speaker has appointed Frank Cook and Mr Joe Benton Chairmen of Standing Committee B in respect of the Bill; and
(2) The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Andrew Mitchell from Standing Committee B (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr Peter Duncan.
| 2 | European Parliamentary and Local Election (Pilots) Bill (Programming Sub-Committee),—The Speaker has appointed Geraint Davies, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr David Heath, Mr Mark Lazarowicz, Mr Christopher Leslie, Bridget Prentice and Mr David Wilshire members of the Programming Sub-Committee of Standing Committee B in respect of the Bill. |
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| 3 | Arms Control and Disarmament (Inspections) Bill [Lords],—The Speaker has appointed Derek Conway Chairman of Standing Committee E in respect of the Bill. |
| 4 | Draft Dental Auxiliaries (Amendment) Regulations 2003,—The Speaker has appointed Mr Peter Atkinson Chairman of the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Regulations. |
| 5 | Health Professions Council (Registration and Fees) Rules Order of Council 2003,—The Speaker has appointed Mrs Marion Roe Chairman of the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the Order of Council. |
| 6 | Child Support (Miscellaneous Amendments) (No. 2) Regulations 2003,—The Speaker has appointed David Taylor Chairman of the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the Regulations. |
| 7 | Draft Education (Amendment of the Curriculum Requirements for the Fourth Key Stage) (England) Order 2003,—The Speaker has appointed Mr Nigel Beard Chairman of the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Order. |
| 8 | Care Standards Act 2000 (Domiciliary Care Agencies and Nurses Agencies) (Amendment) Regulations 2003,—The Speaker has appointed Mr Jimmy Hood Chairman of the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the Regulations. |
| 9 | Draft Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2003,—The Speaker has appointed Mr Jonathan Sayeed Chairman of the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Regulations. |
| 10 | Local Government Finance Special Grant Report (No. 128) on Dealing with Disadvantage Grant,—The Speaker has appointed Mr James Cran Chairman of the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the Report. |
European Standing Committees
| 11 | The Speaker has appointed Mr Jonathan Sayeed Chairman of European Standing Committee B in respect of European Union Document No. 11817/03 on Reduced Rates of VAT. |
Standing Committee on the Inter-Governmental Conference
| 12 | The Speaker has appointed Frank Cook Chairman of the Standing Committee on the Inter-Governmental Conference in respect of its meeting on Monday 10th November. |
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
| Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Interim Report of the Review of Government Communications]; to be printed [No. 1223-i] [Tony Wright]. |
[No. 146; WH, No. 96.]
Thursday 23rd October 2003.
The House sitting in Westminster Hall
The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
| Adjournment (Children and Family Court Advisory and Support Service—Third Report from the Committee on the Lord Chancellor's Department, Session 2002–03, and the Government's response thereto),—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Margaret Hodge.) |
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 28th October.
[Adjourned at 4.56 p.m.
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