Select Committee on Defence Minutes of Evidence


APPENDIX 5

Memorandum submitted by QinetiQ trade unions (22 January 2003)

  1.  The trade unions in QinetiQ represent 9,500 staff in the organisation operating on 18 sites on a multiplicity of roles including land, sea and air defence systems.

  2.  The trade unions gave a cautious welcome to the announcement that the Carlyle Group has been selected as the preferred bidder to help run the QinetiQ organisation. When if was further announced on 5 December that the Ministry of Defence had sold a stake in the company to the Carlyle Group the unions continued to express a cautious viewpoint. This was based on the following.

  3.  The trade unions have long expressed their concern over the sell off of the former DERA organisation because of fears that a buyer would leave QinetiQ vulnerable to asset stripping and breaking up of sensitive and prestigious defence projects. The desire of the staff is to keep the company intact and to have a long-term successful future. The trade unions are very concerned that should flotation occur the requirements of the City, which operates essentially for a short term return on investments, will cause pressure to concentrate on whatever core business will make most money quickly and dispose of the remainder.

  4.  As a model the Committee is invited to examine the case of AEA Technology that was floated following separation from the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority in 1996. this company had a similar ex public sector high tech profile to QinetiQ. Following a good start two profits warnings followed within two years. The consequences were that in order to survive AEA Technology had to sell off its core (and profitable) nuclear interests and as a result half the staff that were originally transferred on privatisation were sold off.

  5.  The Carlyle group in its Fact Sheet (updated 2 September 2003) states "Our mission is to generate extraordinary returns" for its investors. A similar promise to the city in 1996 that AEA Technology would generate 20% year on year profits was its downfall. Our view remains that such a strategy in QinetiQ will lead to loss of long term project planning, wholesale job cuts, an attack on the terms and conditions of staff and an eventual break up of the business.

  6.  The majority of QinetiQ staff have transferred terms and conditions protected under TUPE including redundancy compensation and a good final salary pension scheme. These staff benefits are likely to be seen as a liability by investors. The trade unions will do everything in their power to protect their members' conditions in this regard. Such contractual terms cannot be disposed of lightly.

  7.  The Company announced on 18 October a share scheme for staff. This has been made possibly by an investment by the Carlyle Group. However, we are most disappointed that the MoD contribution is very limited. In addition, there are restrictions on the investments allowed by staff compounded by the fact that some managers are being given preferential treatment. In fairness we consider strongly that al staff should be given an equal opportunity to share in the company.

  8.  Our concerns about these matters including the selection of the Carlyle group as investor were raised with the Minister Dr Lewis Moonie in letters from John Billard on 18 September and 27 November 2002. other than giving general assurances on the reasons for the selection of the Carlyle Group, the minister refused to meet the unions face to face to hear their apprehensions. This evasion has not helped the unions to convince their members that the government is acting in their interest in planning the future of QinetiQ. This is bound to have been a sensitive matter for the staff and our historic opposition to the privatisation for these reasons was well known. We think that this should have led to us being heard at first hand. We remain available for such a meeting.

  9.  MoD has a close relationship with the company particularly as QinetiQ operates facilities deemed strategic by the Department. However, such designations can change and then being deemed non-strategic can place the company under extreme short-tern economic pressure to close a facility. We argue that an approach should be adopted to allow QinetiQ to make business decisions in the longer term. In addition, the company may be faced with restructuring costs, including redundancies, as a result of these decisions. We consider strongly that these costs should be borne by MoD as it has done in previous restructurings where there has been a private operator eg in the dockyards and at AWE.

  10.  The trade unions wish to emphasis to the Committee that they wish to retain the cordial relations that presently exist with QinetiQ managers at all levels. It is in everybody's interest that QinetiQ is a commercial success. It is considered that the recently signed partnership agreement, endorsed by the minister, will provide an essential foundation for agreement on the way forward provided out concerns set out above are addressed.


 
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