Select Committee on Defence Minutes of Evidence


Memorandum submitted by the Joint Security Industry Council (28 April 2003)

  Since we last addressed the HCDC on 20 May 2002 there has been some movement.

    —  JSIC has been invited to become a member of the ACPO (TAM) Counter Terrorist Reinforcement Sub Group. It joined this group at the 8 July meeting. The Sub Group is chaired by Assistant Commissioner David Veness. Since July this group has met four times and JSIC has made a number of suggestions to the group as to how the private security industry could assist in supporting the security authorities in protecting the homeland from terrorist attacks by providing ground intelligence acting as the "eyes and ears" for the security authorities. The chairman welcomed this.

    —  Following on from JSIC initial involvement with the ACPO (TAM) Counter Terrorist Rienforcment Sub Group, JSIC set up its own Counter Terrorist Sub Committee. The role and function of this committee is to co-ordinate and develop procedures and actions that would assist the security authorities in their aim of enhancing homeland security. The group would examine the needs of terrorist awareness training to be given to all security operatives working in public places, from shopping mall guards to door supervisors at disco clubs. Threat dissemination, suspicious activity reporting, both upwards and downwards.

    —  The JSIC CT committee has met twice and its members are drawn from appropriate representative bodies within the broad church of the private security industry. The list of members is attached.

    —  The JSCI CT committee has recommended that all security officers engaged upon guarding and door supervision, as part of the licensing and regulation regime be given terrorist awareness training as part of their basic skill learning package. This was put to the Security Industy Authority at a meeting, chaired by Assistant Commissioner David Veness on 10 January 2003. Discussions are taking place between the SIA and the National Counter Terrorism Security Office regarding the insertion of CT awareness into current training modules. JSIC awaits with interest the outcome of these deliberations. JSIC is not party to these deliberations. A copy of the minutes of this meeting is attached.

    —  The JSIC committee meeting on 22 January developed a set of checklists as well as a capability return, for JSIC members to complete. In addition we are currently researching the locations and numbers of CCTV security control rooms in the UK so that co-ordination of information both downwards and upwards can be better effected than heretofore.

    —  The checklists we have developed relate to:

      —  Suspicious activity relating to terrorist reconnaissance activity at potential targets. (This is not dissimilar to guidance issued by the US Homeland Security Department on 20 March 2003).

      —  Suspicious activity relating to private accommodation flats or bedsits.

      —  Suspicious activity relating to possible suicide bombers (SBs).

  Copies of these checklists are attached.

  Efforts have been made to forge contacts with the Civil Contingencies Secretariat (CCS). We have asked for meetings with Sir David Omand and his officials but we have been unsuccessful. Our intention was to introduce ourselves and to offer our help and assistance in the work of improving the security of our country against attacks by Al-Qaeda and other such groups.

  In conclusion:

    —  JSIC continues to try to develop better co-operation and understanding with not only its own membership but also those others who remain outside the JSIC tent.

    —  We believe that there is still a way in which the threats posed by terrorists may be disseminated down to those at the "coal face", but work on this aspect by the Security Services appears to be bogged down. JSIC has not been invited back to the Security Service head office, following our very successful JSIC seminar on terrorism on 7 November 2001, where we were asked by the delegates if we could improve the threat dissemination, such as the VELLUM, such as it is, to the wider business community but using the communications of JSIC to a wider audience. Two meetings were held with the Security Service, but nothing further was heard.

    —  We have not seen any advice to the public regarding what to look out for regarding the symptoms of a chemcial attack, although this information is readily available to the armed services. No doubt the Government is concerned that whilst sort of alert measures would be welcome the means to protect the civil poputation is lacking, ie provision of respirators.

    —  Finally, nowhere is there any legislation referring to security procedures and practices for the corporate, industrial, or business sectors; unlike fire regulations, where procedures and practices are to be found at almost all well run establishments. These regulations are well established, comprehensive and their compliance is mandatory. Nowhere does there exist any matching guidance, regulation and best practice for physical and personnel security practices. We believe that such regulation is long overdue. We believe the Security Industry Authority is not the place where such regulation should be developed. A paper from central government must at the least, develop this.


 
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