Formal minutes
Monday 23 June 2003
Members present:
Mr Barry Sheerman, in the Chair
Mr David Chaytor | Mr Robert Jackson
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Valerie Davey | Ms Meg Munn
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Jeff Ennis | Mr Kerry Pollard
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Paul Holmes | Jonathan Shaw
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The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report (The Future of Higher Education), proposed by the
Chairman, brought up and read.
Ordered, That the Chairman's draft Report be read a second
time, paragraph by paragraph.
Paragraphs 1 to 141 read and agreed to.
Paragraphs 142 to 211 read.
Motion made, to leave out paragraphs 142 to 211 and insert the
following new paragraphs:
"142. The White Paper recognises that there is a current
imbalance in applications to university from different backgrounds.
"The social class gap among those entering higher education
is unacceptably wide. Those from the top three social classes
are almost three times as likely to enter higher education as
those from the bottom three. Figure 2
is even more disturbing
because it shows the gap has widened. At the extremes the picture
is worse. Young people from professional backgrounds are over
five times more likely to enter higher education than those from
unskilled backgrounds."[263]
143. Key points of the Government's proposals are:
? The introduction of differential top up fees will see the
poorest students paying for their university tuition for the first
time.
? Students will be expected to begin repayments on their student
loans when they earn £15,000. These repayments commence at
a salary level well below average, and leaves students paying
a very high rate of marginal tax.
? The reintroduction of grants at a maximum of £1000,
is at £20 per week, less than the £30 per week "Education
Maintenance Allowance" that eligible sixth form students
receive.
? Students could emerge with debts of up to £21,000 as
a result of top up fees.
? Endowments are promoted by the white paper as a major source
of income for universities in the future.
University Funding
144. The key issue in relation to university funding is clearly
the proposal to allow universities to charge their students differential
fees ranging from nothing to £3,000. The White Paper also
promotes university endowment funds as a major source of funding
in the future, but acknowledges that even the best endowed universities
do not have anything like the resources of universities in the
United States. Furthermore, contributions of this kind make universities
more vulnerable to economic turbulence, as can be seen from the
significant decrease in private contributions to universities
in the United States following the recent economic downturn.
"British Universities have much smaller endowments than their
global competitors. Harvard has about $18 billion, Yale $11 billion
and Princeton $8 billion. In contrast, Oxford has about £2
billion."[264]
Professor Arthur Lucas of King's College London explained the
position for his institution:
"People have mentioned endowments, but it takes a long time
to build up that sort of pool and I welcome the recognition of
endowment and support of endowment in the White Paper, but it
is not going to be a simple, easy and fast solution".[265]
145. Goldsmiths echoed that conclusion, saying that successful
endowments would require a cultural shift in charitable giving,
and that "this is a very long term aspiration, if indeed
it is achievable at all".[266]
Differential Fees
146. A number of those we spoke to were very strongly opposed
to students or graduates paying towards the cost of their higher
education, Mandy Telford, President of the NUS told use "we
think that differential fees are wrong and they will create a
two tier, elitist higher education system".[267]
Sally Hunt of the AUT said that in a survey undertaken by the
union, 88% said that they would prefer higher education to be
funded by general taxation:
"They do not believe that it is reasonable to have differential
fees because they believe that that will impact on their ability
to make the choices and help people on the basis of their academic
ability rather than their ability to pay".[268]
NAFTHE said that its members had similar views, being
"overwhelmingly opposed to the introduction of top up fees
.
Top up fees destroy funding equality and thus the genuine equality
of opportunity."[269]
147. The Secretary of State sought to put the amount to be charged
into perspective:
"At the moment, of the approximate £7.5 billion that
is provided to universities, £400 million is fee and the
rest is State; it is a 1:14 ratio and I do not think that is particularly
unreasonable. We will slightly change that ratio by the proposals
we are talking about."[270]
148. Liberal Democrat Education spokesman Phil Willis MP in his
evidence proposed an alternative means of funding Higher Education,
which did not place the greatest burden on graduates at a time
when he judged they were least able to afford it:
"
we feel that, in terms of funding of higher education,
the principle should be you do it through progressive taxation
and you do that because it means that those who have the greatest
ability to contribute do so, rather than when they are students
who are in that crucial period between leaving university and
the next ten years when they are taking on a job, taking on a
mortgage payments, perhaps getting married or having a partnership
and children where expenses are very tight indeed, which is when
they are going to be hammered most".[271]
"Higher education is an entitlement to all students who achieve
the necessary standards for access; we believe in principle that
tuition should be free at the point of delivery and paid for by
the State."[272]
The £3000 cap
149. Will this level of fee create a differentiated
market? Will the amount charged across universities be enough
so that students from poorer backgrounds will be able to choose
more affordable options in terms of their choice of university?
Evidence given to us suggests that it is expected that most universities
will choose the maximum amount, resulting in an across the board
increases in tuition fees. Dr Knight of UCE said he thought the
£3,000 figure had been chosen deliberately so that fees would
not be differentiated:
"I assume that every university will want to
keep its options open, and will plan on the basis that they are
going to charge £3,000 because if we do not and the grant
is subsequently cut, as we expect it to be from 2006 onwards to
take account of the increased fee, then you are in an absolutely
no win situation if you have not planned the £3,000 fee".[273]
150. Professor Eileen Baker of Grosseteste College,
Lincoln indicated that there would be pressure to conform with
other institutions.
"This college is not anxious to charge the full
£3,000 fee, but if others do, we will (to avoid relegation
to a cheap and cheerful brigade) be expected to plough some of
the new income into our bursary scheme designed to encourage those
who would otherwise hesitate to take on the financial commitment
of studentship".[274]
151. The Secretary of State said on the duration
of the cap said that it would be useful to have some flexibility,
perhaps by having the figure set in secondary rather than primary
legislation.
Different Fees for Different Courses
152. The White Paper raises the issue of differential
fees between courses as well as between universities, because
"it is absolutely clear that students get different returns
from different courses".[275]
153. Sally Hunt from the AUT told us that her members
were "absolutely horrified by the idea that an internal market
may well develop in terms of some departments, some courses".[276]
154. Professor Eastwood of UEA also expressed concerns
about within institution variations:
"I think there are very real difficulties in
differentiating the charge within institutions
I think there
are real problems, for example, in charging more to read English
than to read Chemistry. You turn students into consumers who inhabit
rooms adjacent to one another in the same institution and wonder
why one is cross subsidising the other."[277]
155. Phil Willis MP also expressed concerns that
average premiums for institutions and subjects within those institutions
covered a vast spectrum of salaries. Ultimately the graduate premium
depended on choices of employment taken up by graduates, rather
than the university they graduated from.
"Students who studied a range of arts and social
sciences at university, including the Russell Group, did not achieve
the sorts of graduate premiums, and even had a less or equal premium
to students who left with Level 3 qualifications, so I think we
have to be very careful about applying across a whole group of
students whether from a particular type of university or, indeed,
from universities generally that there is an average premium which
can be applied to the norm because clearly it does not. The other
groups you have to look at....is people working within the public
sector, particularly within the Health Services, where now if
you look, for instance, at the group of people who are the laboratory
technicians who are doing cervical smears and things of that nature
within our hospital service, often are graduates but often are
getting derisory low pay so I think we have to be careful about
applying those premiums. My argument is, and I think most people
accept this, that the more graduates you have, the less you can
have as a premium."[278]
156. Baroness Sharp of Guildford, the Liberal Democrat
Education Spokesperson in the Lords pointed out the difference
between the average and the marginal in these instances:
"there are some graduates such as those from
the LSE who go into the city who get an enormous premium, and
others at the margin who get almost no premium, or even a negative
premium on what they do".[279]
Student Support
157. The Secretary of State made it clear in evidence
that, so far as the Government is concerned, there is no prospect
of a return to a system whereby all fees are paid for in full
from public funds. If, therefore, students are to be charged more
for their courses the support they are given to cope with the
need to repay fees and maintenance loans becomes an even more
critical issue than is the case now, particularly given the Government's
commitment to increase participation in higher education from
under-represented groups.
158. The move to require payment of fees after completion
of a course, rather than during the course has the effect of increasing
the level of debt that is paid at the end of the course. The Government
has responded to this by increasing the threshold on repayment
of student loans from £10,000 to £15,000 with effect
from 2005, "to make payments less burdensome for every graduate".[280]
The main comment that has been received on this is that the level
is still too low and that the threshold should be set to a level
which indicates that a graduate is benefiting from having participated
in higher education. As Mandy Telford of the NUS said:
"We would like to see student loans being repaid
at £25,000 and we also believe that if you are lucky enough
to go on and get a job where you earn a lot, and not everybody
does.
then you will be paying more through the tax system,
and we believe that is the fairer way".[281]
159. It can be argued that the fairest way to recoup
money from those students who benefit most was not by charging
all graduates a high rate of marginal tax, but by taxing them
later in life. Their argument is that if, as the Government claims,
graduates have a significant earnings premium, and if the Government's
target of 50% participation is reached, then the simplest and
fairest way for these graduates to contribute to the cost of their
University education is through progressive taxation. Commenting
on the Government's proposals to raise the threshold to £15,000,
Baroness Sharp said:
"..it is rather tough on the young graduates
who are at the lower end of the earning bracket to be charged
with what is a very high marginal rate of tax with the repayment
system, the 9% marginal rate of extra income tax on those earning
£15,000 plus. It is quite tough; you want to catch them when
they are earning rather more. There is also the question of why
those of us who benefited from a very much more generous regime
of free tuition and grants for residential accommodation should
pay nothing at all."[282]
Maintenance Grants
160. The Government has also announced its intention
to re-introduce maintenance grants. The White Paper says:
"We have listened to those who say that those
from the poorest backgrounds need additional incentives and financial
help to continue in full-time education. So students with parents
on the lowest incomes starting full time higher education courses
will be eligible for a new Higher Education Grant of up to £1,00
a year."[283]
161. In evidence, the Secretary of State said:
"The reason why we went down the course of the
£1,000 grants, is that if you have no access to any other
resource at all, if you are from a particularly poor background
or even because your parents refuse to support you in any way,
then you actually have great difficulty surviving at university
on the current level of maintenance loan".[284]
162. The general view of our witnesses was that the
amount was too low to have any significant impact on students
or potential students worried about their level of debt. Professor
Trainor, for example, told us:
"I think it is a good thing that a single maintenance
grant is being brought inin place of this very confusing
patchwork of hardship funds that we have had over the last five
or six years in particular. But I think that the amount of this
maintenance grant is very low
. and the levels of income
below which the individual family must fall are pretty modest.
So I do not think it is going to make a huge difference."[285]
Sir Howard Newby agreed with this view, saying, "I
think £1,000 per year for maintenance is frankly too low
and I hope the Government will in time, when resources become
available, have another look at that."
163. The Liberal Democrat Education Spokespersons
presented a case for raising the grant to £2,000 per year
for the poorest student. This was costed at an additional £300
million to the Government's existing proposal, to be funded from
a 50% rate on incomes over £100,000.[286]
Education Maintenance Allowance
164. Another slightly different point was that the
grant should have been linked with the EMA to provide continuity
for those students from non-traditional backgrounds. NATFHE told
us that:
"It is particularly disappointing that the grant
levels are not linked, in amount and thresholds for payment, with
the £1,500 Education Maintenance Allowance so thatif
set at a realistic levelthis would provide seamless transition
in support terms from FE to HE".[287]
Professor Claire Callender of South Bank University
argued along the same lines:
"The White Paper missed the opportunity of linking
the receipt of the new student grants more directly with existing
means-tested Educational Maintenance Allowances (EMAs) for 16-19
year olds, which are to be rolled out in 2004.
It would have been helpful if young people in receipt
of the full EMA could have been guaranteed receipt of the full
HE grant. This would have helped a seamless transition in funding
for school leavers and FE college students into HE, and aided
the simplification of student funding across these sectors."[288]
165. The Secretary of State responded by saying "I
do not actually accept the argument that because this is the State
support that you received at the age of 16, it should necessarily
be the State support that you receive at the age of 20, but I
do accept the argument
that it must be a coherent system
and one which incentivises rather than disincentivises".[289]
Eligibility for Maintenance Grant
166. There has been some confusion about precisely
who will be eligible to receive the full £1,000 grant. The
White Paper says that students from families where income is £10,000
or less will receive the full £1,000, and those whose family
income is up to £20,000 will receive some grant. These limits
appeared to suggest that a very small proportion indeed of the
student population would be eligible for the £1,000 grant;
figures from the Family Resources Survey 2001-02 indicate that
only 7% of families with one or more dependent children between
16 and 18 have total income of £10,000 or less.[290]
167. When we saw Margaret Hodge, she told us that
it was the Government's intention that the full £1,000 grant
would be available to "30% of the cohort".[291]
In a letter sent after that meeting, she told us that since the
launch of the White Paper in January, "We
have received
more up-to-date data which indicated that within the 30% of students
to be supported, we may be able to afford to raise the threshold
for the full grant higher than the proposed £10,000",
and that a further statement would be made once the data had been
checked. When we met the Secretary of State he acknowledged that
the £10,000 figure had been arrived at in error, and also
told us that he was not yet in a position to say what the income
limit would be. He declined to offer an estimate, on the grounds
that "having made the mistake before, I am rather loath to
set another hare running".[292]
The income limit for eligibility for the full grant has not yet
been made public.
Assistance With Payment of Tuition Fees
168. With the present standard £1,100 fee, the
Government has a scheme to assist students from poorer families:
"Under the current system the Government spends
over £400 million on paying the fees of those whose parents
are least able to afford the standard £1,100 fee. This sum
pays the fee in full for those whose parents are on incomes up
to £20,000. For those between £20,000 and £30,000,
it covers part of the cost of the fee. The Government will
continue this spending on student support when the new contribution
arrangements come into effect in 2006. This will reduce any contribution
that students have to pay by up to £1,100 [uprated for inflation]."[293]
170. The question we put to Margaret Hodge was: should
not the Government increase its support for students from poorer
families so they are not disadvantaged when differential fees
are brought in? In other words, should not the Government be willing
to pay the maximum amount that a student may be charged under
the new regime, in order to make the new scheme equivalent to
the existing one? Her answer was that it was not necessary for
the Government to pay fees up to £3,000 "because not
everyone will be charging the variable fees". By the time
we spoke to the Secretary of State, however, and put the same
question to him, the view had changed. He told us:
"I think there is a good case for that, and
that is why I have indicated that it is something we are prepared
to look at".[294]
Student Debt
171.When the Committee considered this issue for
its report last year, there was some argument that despite the
Rees and Cubie reports, the evidence pointing to the deterrent
effect of debt on participation in higher education relied too
much on anecdote. However later that year the Public Accounts
Committee investigating the same issue concluded that "The
current system of financial support for students is too complicated,
particularly in respect of the wide range of discretionary funds
that might be available. This complexity and the fear of debt
are barriers to increasing participation."[295]
Since then, further concrete evidence such as that outlined below
has been made available.
172.We asked a number of witnesses about levels of
student debt. A significant number of Vice-Chancellors and principals
expressed concerns that many students were already forced to take
on significant levels of part time work to fund their studies.
The introduction of higher levels of fees led to concerns that
it would make matters worse.
Professor Michael Brown, from Liverpool John Moores
University said:
"It should be stressed that the levels of part
time work being undertaken by students because they need to work
in order to pursue their studies is substantial. Our own internal
surveys have shown a significant number of students are working
more than 30 hours a week for relatively low levels of pay to
allow them to continue their studies."[296]
Professor McKenna from the University of Ulster shared
this view:
"
the White Paper has failed to find any
remedy to the situation in which many thousands of students have
to work 30 hours a week to fund their education yet are still
deemed full time students. It is a recipe for second class citizenship,
inside and outside higher education."[297]
173. The key concern however, was that the proposals
contained in the White Paper would continue to deter students
from disadvantaged backgrounds. Cardiff University told us:
"..the very students the Government wants universities
to increase are those with the highest debt aversion, and therefore
the least amenable to the rational economic argument used by the
Government. The prosopect of increasing debt is likely to be
a serious disincentive to poorer students, despite repayments
depending on income."[298]
Goldsmiths, University of London:
"
we are gravely concerned at the debt
burden which the proposed fee arrangement will impose on many
students, and at the likely disincentive to lower income potential
recruits of precisely the kind universities need to attract".[299]
Written evidence from the LSE linked both these concernsof
debt aversion and the need to work, describing them as a "double
disadvantage" for poorer students:
"The proposal about loans, although ensuring
that tuition is free at the point of entry, and sufficient to
cover accommodation costs, falls well short of meeting living
expenses for UK graduates. This may put students from poor backgrounds
at a double disadvantage; they may be deterred by long term debt,
and they would be more likely to need to take up work during term
time, thus harming their studies."[300]
174. Phil Willis MP pointed to recently published
evidence, which supported these concerns, and commented that there
is "
compelling evidence that debt aversion is one of
the principal reasons that students from lower socio-economic
groups do not go into higher education".
The Joseph Rowntree Foundation's report Socio-Economic
Disadvantage and Experience in Higher Education concluded
that "Students from disadvantaged backgrounds were more likely
to prematurely reduce their levels of participation within higher
education, by dropping out of courses, or by forgoing the opportunity
to progress to more advanced courses". Factors identified
to lie behind this difficulty were:
"A fear of debt, which could exert a much greater
deterrent effect on disadvantaged students' continued participation
than could actual debt, especially when this fear was coupled
with a lack of confidence, about both their chances of academic
success, and their chances of finding a job at the end of it all
to pay off this debt".[301]
Professor Claire Callendar at the South Bank University,
in her report Attitudes to Debt came to very similar conclusions:
"Debt aversion deterred entry into HE and had
the greatest impact on the participation of the very groups the
Government most wants to attract into HE. Student funding policies,
predicated on the accumulation of debt, will deter HE entry among
those with no other financial resource to call upon to fund their
higher education. So the Government's widening participation policies
are being undermined by their student funding policies."[302]
The Unite Student Living Survey 2003, conducted by
MORI found that 28% of students who dropped out, or considered
dropping out, cited financial problems as the cause.[303]
37% of those students interviewed said that top up fees would
have either probably or definitely have made them choose a university
that didn't charge them.[304]
The Interest Rate Subsidy for Student Loans
175. We also looked at whether the money the Government
spends on subsidising the interest rate at which student loans
are repaid might be better used in other ways. Professor Barr,
the leading critic of the current policy, which provides interest-free
loans in real terms,
has calculated that the current cost is £800 million a year,
and that it will rise to £1.2 billion when the system of
differential fees is fully operational.[305]
Margaret Hodge defended the policy :
"By having a zero real interest rate policy
we are actually supporting
those who will tend to come out
as graduates on lower incomes, women who will have career breaks
and others who will perhaps work in the voluntary sector or elsewhere
where over their life time their earnings will be lower than if
they go into the City. I think having a real zero real interest
rate policy is a progressive policy and charging graduates real
interest on their loans would have been a regressive option."[306]
The Department pursued a similar argument in its
reply to our report of last session on student support.[307]
176. The NUS was also against the removal of the
subsidy. Mandy Telford told us:
"the NUS does not support raising the interest
rate on loans because it would mean that those who are the poorest
graduates will pay the most for the rest of their lives. The richest
graduates will pay it off quickly and the poorest will be paying
it off forever and, therefore, accruing lots of interest."[308]
177. Professor Barr strongly contested this argument:
"The Department argues that 'those who benefit
most...are those who earn the least' (para. 30). Separately, it
argues that targeted interventions '... only have the effect of
channelling the subsidy back to those peopleie on lower
earningswho are the principal beneficiaries of the subsidy
at the moment' (para. 31). Both arguments are quite simplywrong:
they ignore the much larger total benefit for the great bulk of
graduates who repay their loans in full. The same resources would
do much more to help the poor if spent in ways
that do not
leak out to the latter group."[309]
He suggested that, amongst other things, the money
could be spent on larger maintenance grants; raising the income
threshold for eligibility for grants; offering a super grant covering
all costs to some students in their first year; increasing the
full maintenance loan, abolishing the income test for the loan,
and re-introducing debt forgiveness.[310]
Conclusions and Recommendations
University Funding
178.The conclusions of the Dearing Report were that
"the costs of Higher Education should be shared among those
who benefit from it", with the individual, the State and
employers all as key beneficiaries. The principle is correct,
and should be supported, but what needs to be addressed is how
individuals who benefit the most financially from a university
education can make an appropriate contribution, as clearly there
are some graduate occupations where the benefit is not always
financial.
179.Allowing institutions to charge up to £3,000
per year in differential fees will bring in a maximum of £1.8
billion a year to the sector, if all institutions charge the maximum
top up rate. This will only be a significant source of additional
income if public expenditure is sustained at its existing levels.
There are legitimate concerns that central government funding
of higher education will be cut accordingly, as revenue from top
up fees increases, as was the case in England and Wales since
the introduction of tuition fees in 1997 and as has happened in
Australia.
Top up and tuition fees
180. The introduction of tuition fees has seen average
student debt rocket, and has resulted in many students having
to work part time to fund their education. This has a disproportionately
negative impact on those students from disadvantaged backgroundsthose
that the Government is specifically supposed to be targeting.
The introduction of top up fees in addition to tuition fees means
that student debts will increase further still, and for the first
time even the poorest students are expected to contribute towards
their education. All the evidence suggest that this policy will
continue to widen the social gap that already exists in higher
education participation
Student Support
181. In our report to the last session of Parliament
we concluded that the elements required of a system of student
support are:
"A student support system for the future should:
- Be equitable and encourage broadly based participation,
and in particular should increase participation by first generation
students;
- Require those with the means to do so to make
a fair contribution to the costs of their higher education;
- Support lifelong learning, so that choices between
part time and full time study and for discontinuous study and
between higher and further education are financially neutral;
- Be easy to understand, administratively efficient
and cost effective and offer good value for money for both students
and society;
- Integrate learning support across all post compulsory
education;
- Provide sufficient income through loans grants
and access to the benefits system, to enable students to learn
effectively without detriment to their studies;
- Be integrated into the benefits system in order
that students in challenging circumstances are able to access
the support that they need ; and
- Be additional to and not at the expense of institutional
investment.
The system devised by the Government falls short
on a number of crucial areas.
182. Shifting the payment of fees contributions to
the end of the course does not remove the deterrent of debt on
potential students, especially as the Government's proposals for
higher differential fees would significantly increase the average
level of debt. On the basis of the evidence presented, the deferral
of fees until after completion of a student's course will not
remove the disincentive that debt poses to participation in higher
education, particularly among under represented groups.
183. The Government needs to target expenditure more
effectively on those who need it. Ending the undifferentiated
interest subsidy, and introducing a real rate of interest is regressive.
Those students with highest earnings would pay off their debts
more quickly, while those on lower incomes would incur more interest,
and face the prospect of never actually fully repaying their loans.
Women in particular, who take career breaks to have children,
would be particularly discriminated against if interest rates
on student loans were no longer subsidised.
184. The threshold increase from £10,000 to
£15,000 of student loans repayment is welcome, but still
falls short of the Committee's previous recommendations that the
level should be average earnings (currently £24,500), and
should keep pace with changes in the level of average earnings.
Providing higher education tuition would significantly reduce
average student debt, which would also help reduce the burden
of student loan repayments.
185. At its current level, the reintroduction of
the maintenance grant at £20 per week is unlikely to provide
much incentive to students from poorer backgrounds, especially
given the fact that the poorest students will also be expected
to make a contribution to the costs of their tuition for the first
time once top up fees are introduced. Instead we recommend that
funds are allocated to double the amount of grant available to
£2,000 per annum as is the case in Scotland. Furthermore,
this system would be considerably improved if eligibility and
provision of grants within Higher Education were linked seamlessly
with the system of provision that already exists for 6th
form students in the form of the Education Maintenance Allowance.
186. The Government's proposals as outlined in the
White Paper, involve significantly increasing levels of debt,
which will impact disproportionately on under-represented groups.
Their policy on top up fees runs directly counter to their claims
that they are seeking to close the social gap that currently exists
in higher education participation. The most progressive means
of ensuring that those students who benefit the most financially
from participation in higher education contribute the most is
through a fair and progressive system of taxation on income. Such
proposals, in offering free tuition at the point of delivery,
lighten the burden of debt that recent graduates face. These graduates,
and those in the past who have benefited from free higher education
tuition at the point of delivery only make significant extra contributions
once they are earning significant incomes. Those in low paid employmentsuch
as in the public sectorare therefore protected from accumulating
large amounts of debt, while the introduction of realistic levels
of grants goes some way to neutralising the fear of debt that
they are particularly susceptible too. It is these plans, and
not those of the Government that go furthest to meeting all the
criteria for student support outlined in the Education Select
Committee's report last year." (Paul Holmes.)
Motion made, and Question put, That the paragraphs
be read a second time.
The Committee divided.
Ayes, 1
Paul Holmes
| | Noes, 7
Mr David Chaytor
Valerie Davey
Jeff Ennis
Mr Robert Jackson
Ms Meg Munn
Mr Kerry Pollard
Jonathan Shaw
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Motion made, and Question put, That paragraphs 142 to 211 be agreed
to.
The Committee divided.
Ayes, 7
Mr David Chaytor
Valerie Davey
Jeff Ennis
Mr Robert Jackson
Ms Meg Munn
Mr Kerry Pollard
Jonathan Shaw
| | Noes, 1
Paul Holmes
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Paragraphs 212 to 221 agreed to.
Summary agreed to.
Annex agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report be the Fifth Report of the Committee
to the House.
Ordered, That the Chairman do make the Report to the House.
Ordered, That the provisions of Standing Order No. 134
(Select committees (reports)) be applied to the Report
Several papers were ordered to be appended to the Minutes of Evidence.
Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence
taken before the Committee be reported to the House.
Several Memoranda were ordered to be reported to the House.
The Committee further deliberated.
[Adjourned till Wednesday 25 June at Nine o'clock.
263 The Future of Higher Education, 1.28, p17 Back
264
Ibid, para 7.16 Back
265
Qq 171, 174 Back
266
Ev 246-7, paras 7.5-7.13 Back
267
Q 275 Back
268
Q 246 Back
269
Ev 43 Back
270
Q 737 Back
271
Q 830 Back
272
Q 821 Back
273
Q 525 Back
274
Ev 218 Back
275
The Future of Higher Education, para:7.25 Back
276
Q240 Back
277
Q 526 Back
278
Q 833 Back
279
ibid. Back
280
The Future of Higher Education, para 7.41 Back
281
Q 270 Back
282
Q 827 Back
283
The Future of Higher Education, para 7.36 Back
284
Q 746 Back
285
Q 696 Back
286
Liberal Democrat Consultation Paper, Quality Diversity Choice,
Spring 2003, ch6 Back
287
Ev 43 Back
288
Ev 281 Back
289
Q 744 Back
290
Ev 280 Back
291
Q 34 Back
292
Q 742 Back
293
The Future of Higher Education, para 7.32. Back
294
Q 746 Back
295
Public Accounts Committee, 58th Report: Improving
Student Achievement and Widening Participation in Higher Education
in England, July 2002 Back
296
Ev 232 Back
297
Ev 262 Back
298
Memorandum from Cardiff University [not printed]. Back
299
Ev 226 Back
300
Memorandum from the London School of Economics [not printed]. Back
301
Joseph Rowntree Foundation, Socio Economic Disadvantage and
Experience in Higher Education, May 2003 Back
302
Prof Claire Callendar, Attitudes to Debt: School leavers and
further education students' attitudes to debt and their impact
on participation on Higher Education, February 2003, p.168 Back
303
Unite Student Living Survey, 2003. Back
304
ibid Back
305
Ev 296, 304. Back
306
Q 81 Back
307
Sixth Report, Post-16 Student Support and Government reply
(HC 440, Session 2002-03) Back
308
Q 291 Back
309
Ev 305, para 110. Back
310
ibid, paras 114-5. Back
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