Select Committee on Transport Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 500-505)

WEDNESDAY 19 MARCH 2003

MR GEOFF MUIRHEAD, MS ROWENA BURNS, AND DR JONATHAN BAILEY

  500. If you do not mind, I would like you to answer the question that I asked.  (Mr Muirhead) I will answer that question, but it would be interesting to ask it the other way around, that if there was no restriction, then let us see what would happen. There are examples. Air Jamaica is one in particular which immediately comes to mind which was prevented from flying to Manchester by bilateral restrictions. They have now been overcome, but that took about four or five years to get there.

  501. Are there any others?  (Mr Muirhead) Air Hong Kong Freight. I think what we would like to do is go back and see where we can give you some examples.

Chairman

  502. Go back far enough to give us a series of example, will you?  (Mr Muirhead) Yes, if we can.

Mr Stringer

  503. Can you also expand on the point you were making in your evidence that you believe that the economic regulation that is applied to Manchester and BAA airports is distorting things? Can you expand on that point?  (Mr Muirhead) Economic regulation has driven what is fundamentally exactly the opposite outputs in terms of pricing that you would normally expect to see in the market. It has meant that the London airports, the most congested airports, are also the cheaper airports or the cheapest airports. That fundamentally just seems to reinforce the roles of the congested airports and increase the attractiveness unnecessarily of congested airports. That is a direct result of economic regulation, because they are limited to rate of return.

Chairman

  504. Why has Bournemouth not taken off the way you expected it to?  (Mr Muirhead) Bournemouth has taken off the way we expected it to. It is ahead of our acquisition plan. It has not taken off as well as we perhaps might have expected, given an agreement with a low-cost carrier that was taken over.

  505. Can I ask you finally about new runway capacity in the South East. You recognise it is very urgent, so what ought we to do to find quicker options than the ones that have been suggested?  (Mr Muirhead) I think there is always a fundamental issue in growing any new capacity anywhere other than at the area where there is existing capacity. New airports, unless they are so far away obviously that they do not affect people or the environment, I do not believe will ever get off the ground at all. So the issue is, how do you expand existing airports in the South East and how do you use the capacity that is currently available in the regions more effectively? We believe we have given you a flavour of that, but whatever the regions can do we do not believe will sort out in totality the issue of congestion in the South East. So I think that if you have a proper planning framework that gives some certainty about outcomes and takes away a lot of the debate about need, and you start just managing impact, then I think you will be able to shorten the planning process. But even so, I think that in this country we have a predisposition to complain about things ad nauseam and not accept defeat. It is a good trait in many ways, but in terms of making progress here, it is a clear block.

  Chairman: Mr Muirhead, we are very grateful to you for the quality of your evidence. We are grateful to you for coming, as always. We look forward to hearing you again in the future. Thank you.





 
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