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Thursday 21 November 2002

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Hon.
Michael Trend
Mr Brian White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Public Service Targets: Mr Roger Thayne OBE, Chief Executive, Staffordshire Ambulance Service, Councillor Sir Jeremy Beecham, Chairman, Local Government Association and Mr Mike Stone, Director, Patients Association, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 28 November at a quarter to Ten o'clock.

Thursday 28 November 2002

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Hon.
Michael Trend
Mr Brian White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Draft Report (Ministerial Accountability and Parliamentary Questions: The Government Response to the Committee's Ninth Report of Session 2001-02), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

(The Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the First Report from the Committee, HC 136 (2002-03), p.11).

Ordered, That Professor Richard Rose be appointed a Specialist Adviser to assist the Committee in its inquiry into Public Service Targets.—(The Chairman).

Public Service Targets: Mr John Bangs, Assistant General Secretary, National Union of Teachers, Mrs Jan Berry, Chairman and Mr Clint Elliott, General Secretary, Police Federation, were examined.

Lord Browne of Madingley, Chief Executive, BP, was examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 5 December at a quarter to Ten o'clock.

Thursday 5 December 2002

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice

 

The Committee deliberated.
Public Service Targets: Professor Tim Brighouse, formerly Chief Education Officer, Birmingham, Dr Gill Morgan, Chief Executive, NHS Confederation, Mr Mike Newell, President, Prison Governors' Association and Mr David Butler, Director, National Confederation of Parent-Teacher Associations, were examined.

[Adjourned till Monday 9 December at half past Three o'clock at the
Council House, Bristol.

The Committee met at the Council House, Bristol
Monday 9 December 2002

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Hon.
Michael Trend

 

The Committee deliberated.

Public Appointments and Patronage: Ms Judeline Ross, Bristol Racial Equality Council, Mr John Savage, High Sheriff of Bristol, Mr Tom Dowell, Chair, Bristol South and West Primary Care Trust and Councillor Diane Bunyan, Leader, Bristol City Council, were examined.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 10 December at Two o'clock at the Council House, Bristol.
The Committee met at the Council House, Bristol
Tuesday 10 December 2002

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Hon.
Michael Trend

 

The Committee deliberated.

Public Service Targets: Mr Jan Filochowski, Chief Executive, Royal United Hospital, Bath, Councillor John Bees and Mr Carew Reynell, Head of Paid Services, Bristol City Council, were examined.

Mr Jonathan Harris, Director of Education for Cornwall, was examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 12 December at a quarter to Ten o'clock.

Thursday 12 December 2002

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice

 

The Committee deliberated.

Resolved, That the Committee do visit Canada 8 to 14 June 2003 in connection with its inquiry into Public Service Targets.—(The Chairman)

Ordered, That the Chairman do seek the approval of the Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the said visit.

Resolved, That the Committee do take evidence from the Commissioner for Public Appointments and the Public Appointments Unit at the Cabinet Office.—(The Chairman.)

Public Appointments and Patronage: Mr Martin Wainwright, Northern Editor, The Guardian, Janet Paraskeva, Chief Executive, The Law Society, Ms Linda Parkinson, Mr Andy Freeney and Mr Martin Gray, The National Lottery Community Fund, were examined.

Mrs Ivy Cameron, Consultant, Cameron Woods Associates, was examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 9 January at a quarter to Ten o'clock.

Thursday 9 January 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Hon
Michael Trend

 

The Committee deliberated.

Resolved, That the Committee do take evidence from Professor Michael Barber, Prime Minister's Chief Adviser on Delivery, and Sir Andrew Turnbull, KCV CVO, Secretary of the Cabinet and Head of the Home Civil Service.—(The Chairman.)

Public Service Targets: Mr James Strachan, Chairman and Mr Peter Wilkinson, Director of Health, Audit Commission, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 16 January at a quarter past Two o'clock.

Thursday 16 January 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Hon
Michael Trend

 

The Committee deliberated.

Resolved, That the Committee do take evidence from a Minister from the Treasury or the Cabinet Office.—(The Chairman.)

Public Service Targets: Rt Hon. Clare Short, a Member of the House, Secretary of State, and Mr Suma Chakrabarti, Permanent Secretary, Department for International Development, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 23 January at a quarter to Ten o'clock.

Thursday 23 January 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Annette Brooke
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon
Prentice

 

The Committee deliberated.

Public Service Targets: Mr Peter Neyroud, Chief Constable, Thames Valley Police, Mr Martin Narey, Director-General, Prison Service, Professor Alison Kitson, Executive Director (Nursing), Royal College of Nursing, and Mr John Seddon, Managing Director, Vanguard Education Ltd, were examined.

Ms Frances Blunden, Principal Policy Adviser and Ms Kaye McIntosh, Editor of Health Which?, Consumers' Association, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 30 January at a quarter to Ten o'clock.

Thursday 30 January 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Hon
Michael Trend

 

The Committee deliberated.

Ordered, That Sir Christopher Jenkins QC be appointed a Specialist Adviser to assist the Committee in its inquiry for a draft Civil Service Bill.—(The Chairman.)

Resolved, That the Committee do take evidence from Rt Hon.Paul Boateng, MP, Chief Secretary to the Treasury, and Rt Hon. Lord Macdonald of Tradeston CBE, Minister for the Cabinet Office and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster.—(The Chairman.)

Public Service Targets: Mr Malcolm Wing, National Secretary for Services Groups, Ms Karen Jennings, Head of the Health Services Group and Mr Mark Thomas, Policy Officer, UNISON, were examined.

Sir Nigel Crisp KCB, Permanent Secretary, Department of Health and Chief Executive, NHS and Mr Hugh Taylor CB, Director of Corporate Affairs, Department of Health, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 6 February at half past Ten o'clock.

Thursday 6 February 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Hon
Michael Trend

 

The Committee deliberated.

Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into Ministerial Powers and the Prerogative, Private Influence in Government and Public Service Reform, Users and Consumers.—(The Chairman.)

[Adjourned till Thursday 13 February at a quarter to Ten o'clock.

Thursday 13 February 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Draft Report (The Work of the Committee in 2002), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.
(The Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Second Report of the Committee, HC 447 (2002-03), p.9).

Draft Report (Ombudsman Issues), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

(The Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Third Report of the Committee, HC 448 (2002-03), p.19).

Public Appointments and Patronage: Mr Hamish Davidson, Chairman, and Ms Alison Cawley, Associate Director, Veredus, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 27 February at a quarter past Ten o'clock.

Thursday 27 February 2003
[Morning Sitting]

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice

 

The Committee deliberated.

The New Centre: Professor Michael Barber, Chief Adviser, Prime Minister's Delivery Unit, Cabinet Office, and Mr Nick Macpherson, Managing Director, Public Services Directorate, HM Treasury, were examined.

[Adjourned till this day at a quarter past Two o'clock.

Thursday 27 February 2003
[Afternoon Sitting]

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Public Appointments and Patronage: Dame Rennie Fritchie DBE, Commissioner for Public Appointments, was examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 6 March at a quarter to Ten o'clock.

Thursday 6 March 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

The Work of the Ombudsman: Ann Abraham, Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration and Health Service Ombudsman, was examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 13 March at a quarter past Two o'clock.

Thursday 13 March 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Ordered, That Professor Rodney Brazier be appointed a Specialist Adviser to assist the Committee in its inquiry into Ministerial Powers and the Prerogative.—(The Chairman.)

Cabinet Office Annual Report: Sir Andrew Turnbull KCB CVO, Secretary of the Cabinet and Head of the Home Civil Service, was examined.

[Adjourned till Monday 24 March at Two o'clock.

Monday 24 March 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Public Service Targets: Rt Hon Estelle Morris, a Member of the House, former Secretary of State for Education and Skills, was examined.

Rt Hon. Paul Boateng, a Member of the House, Chief Secretary to the Treasury and Mr Adam Sharples, Public Services Director, HM Treasury, Rt Hon. Lord Macdonald of Tradeston CBE, Minister for the Cabinet Office and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and Mr Adrian Masters, Deputy Director, The Prime Minister's Delivery Unit, Cabinet Office, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 10 April at a quarter past Nine o'clock.

Thursday 10 April 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Ministerial Powers and the Prerogative: Rt Hon. William Hague, a Member of the House, former Leader of the Opposition and Rt Hon. Tony Benn, former Member of Parliament and Cabinet Minister, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 8 May at a quarter past Nine o'clock.

Thursday 8 May 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Ministerial Powers and the Prerogative: Rt Hon. Lord Hurd of Westwell, CH CBE, Mr Mark Fisher, a Member of the House and Lord Lester of Herne Hill, QC, The Odysseus Trust, were examined.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 13 May at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 13 May 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

[Adjourned till Thursday 22 May at a quarter past Nine o'clock.

Thursday 22 March 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.
Ministerial Powers and the Prerogative: Mr Graham Allen, a Member of the House and Mr Billy Bragg, Musician, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 5 June at half past Nine o'clock.

Thursday 5 June 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Ministerial Powers and Prerogative: Mr Jon Snow, Journalist, Channel 4 News and Mr Philip Collins, Director, Social Market Foundation.

[Adjourned till Thursday 19 June at half past Nine o'clock.

Thursday 19 June 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into Government Information and Communication.—(The Chairman.)

A Civil Service Act: Lord Armstrong of Ilminster, GCB CVO, Lord Butler of Brockwell, GCB CVO and Lord Wilson of Dinton, GCB, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 26 June at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 26 June 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr John
Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice

 

The Committee deliberated.

Resolved, that the Committee do visit Cardiff, in connection with its inquiry into The Work of the Ombudsman and other inquiries.—(The Chairman.)

Draft Report (Government by Appointment: Opening up the Patronage State), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

(The Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Fourth Report of the Committee, HC 165-I (2002-03), p.70).

[Adjourned till Monday 7 July at a quarter to Four o'clock.

Monday 7 July 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin
Hopkins
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Hon
Michael Trend
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Resolved, That the Committee do take evidence from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration and Health Service Ombudsman on the report on Equitable Life.—(The Chairman.)

Ministerial Powers and the Prerogative: Sir Hayden Phillips, GCB, Permanent Secretary, Department for Constitutional Affairs and Gay Catto, Ceremonial Officer, Cabinet Office, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 10 July at half past Nine o'clock.

Thursday 10 July 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin
Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr John Lyons
Mr Gordon
Prentice

 

The Committee deliberated.

Draft Report, (On Target? Government By Measurement), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

(The Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Fifth Report of the Committee, HC 62-I (2002-03), p.46).

[Adjourned till Thursday 11 September at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 11 September 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Hon
Michael Trend
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

[Adjourned till Thursday 23 October at a quarter past Nine o'clock.

Thursday 23 October 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Hon
Michael Trend
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Interim Report of the Review of Government Communications: Sir Bernard Ingham, former Press Secretary to Baroness Thatcher, Mr Tim Allan, former Deputy Press Secretary to the current Prime Minister, and Professor Ivor Gaber, Professor Emeritus of Broadcast Journalism, Goldsmiths College, University of London, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 6 November at a quarter past Nine o'clock.

Thursday 6 November 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

Draft Report, (On Target? Government By Measurement: the Government's Response to the Committee's Fifth Report), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

(The Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Sixth Report of the Committee, HC 1264 (2002-03), p.10).

A Civil Service Act: Mr Mark Serwotka, General Secretary, Public and Commercial Services Union, and Mr Charles Cochrane, Secretary, Council of Civil Service Unions, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 13 November at a quarter past Nine o'clock.

Thursday 13 November 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon
Prentice
Hon
Michael Trend
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

A Civil Service Act: Mr Jonathan Baume, General Secrtary, FDA Union, was examined.

Mr David Walker, Journalist, The Guardian, was examined.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 18 November at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 18 November 2003

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian
Liddell-Grainger
Hon
Michael Trend
Mr Brian
White

 

The Committee deliberated.

A Civil Service Act: Baroness Prashar CBE, First Civil Service Commissioner, was examined.

Sir Nigel Wicks, GCB CVO CBE, Chair, and Mr Robert Behrens, Committee on Standards in Public Life, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 27 November at a quarter past Nine o'clock.

 
 
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