Select Committee on Work and Pensions Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence


APPENDIX 7

Letter to Committee from the Scottish Union of Supported Employment (EDP 10)

  I am writing to you on behalf of the Scottish Union of Supported Employment (SUSE) regarding the e-mail we received on 7 November with information on the Work and Pensions Select Committee review of employment opportunities for people with disabilities

  This is an issue that is directly related to the work of SUSE and we have undertaken much campaigning work in this area over the past six months.

  The background to the organisation is that SUSE is an umbrella organisation for 93 organisations in Scotland involved or interested in Supported Employment or Social Inclusion issues. The membership comprises of almost all Scottish local authorities, all the major voluntary organisations involved in supported employment, NHS Trusts, Further Education Colleges and representatives from the private sector. Such a wide representation of disability organisations means we have substantial in-depth knowledge of the needs of, and problems faced, by disabled jobseekers.

  Since 1999 SUSE has been funded by the Community Fund and will continue to be funded by them until 2005. The Scottish Union of Supported Employment provides a range of services to its members which include:

    —  Annual National Conferences.

    —  Quarterly general meetings held throughout Scotland.

    —  Subsidised training programmes and seminars.

    —  Regular information mailings.

    —  Website, including a discussion forum (www.suse.org.uk).

    —  A National Co-ordinator providing a point of contact and an information service.

  SUSE also hosted the Fifth Conference of the European Union of Supported Employment which was held in Edinburgh in March, 2001. This international event was attended by 620 delegates from 37 countries and provided a variety of speakers and workshops related to employment issues for disabled people.

  Part of our strategic plan for 2002-03 is to tackle the issues pertinent to your proposed enquiry and to this end much lobbying has been undertaken with letters raising our concerns to MPs, MSPs, government departments, etc., including Archy Kirkwood and David Stewart who both sit on the select committee.

  I have included copies of our letters to MPs, [6]etc. of 6 June and 24 July, which I hope will highlight the serious concerns SUSE has regarding:

    —  The funding, or lack of it, available for disabled jobseekers.

    —  Our concerns regarding the way many government programmes are fragmented and inefficient.

    —  Our concerns that the programmes do not always reach the target audience.

    —  The real concerns that SUSE, its membership and the client group have concerning unemployment/incapacity benefits and the barriers these benefits put in the way of disabled jobseekers.

  With such a wide range of knowledge and experience within SUSE I believe we will have much to provide to the enquiry and I look forward to hearing from you in the near future.

AREAS OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO THE SCOTTISH UNION OF SUPPORTED EMPLOYMENT

1.   High Numbers Claiming Incapacity Benefit

  This is an area of great concern to many members of The Scottish Union of Supported Employment. Over the past decade when governments wanted to massage unemployment figures many people with disabilities were encouraged to claim Incapacity Benefit as they were then deemed to be sick rather than unemployed. Not only does this reinforce society's opinion that disability and ill health are the same thing but can lead to great unfairness among the disabled community. There is evidence to show that within similar situations you can have one person with a disability receiving Incapacity Benefit while another person with a similar disability is receiving Income Support and a much smaller income.

  We feel that benefits for people with disabilities should be rationalised to ensure each person's personal income is equitable and that the benefit system is simplified to make it easier for individuals to achieve personal goals and a release from dependence on the state.

2.   The Role of Jobcentre + and the Department for Work and Pensions

  Many agencies have grave concerns about the way in which Jobcentre + operates in relation to disabled jobseekers. There are areas of Scotland where unemployment is at its lowest for a generation, ie Edinburgh, where unemployment is approximately 2%. An overt indication of the low rate is the number of wholesale and retail outlets that are presently advertising for staff.

  In this environment where the recruitment of personnel is at a premium, people with disabilities should be seen as a priority and individuals given every assistance to find work. Jobcentre + has a real role to play in encouraging employers to provide opportunities for disabled jobseekers and to ensure that employers are given every assistance to formulate policies that encourage disabled people to take jobs.

  There is also a benefit to the Government and society in putting resources into this policy in reduced benefit payments, increased spending power and increased taxation and national insurance.

  There are also real concerns regarding the Workstep programme. Since the early eighties this programme has been a great success and has continued to develop and modernise. Unfortunately there is now a real worry that the importance put on progression into open employment will encourage agencies to look at the more able jobseekers to the detriment of the less able. The original concept of assisting those who would be unlikely to be able to hold down open employment is being sacrificed to the altar of progression and while there may be an argument that people with a learning disability are able to progress to open employment the new rules may make it more difficult for those with a deteriorating disability such as muscular dystrophy or rheumatoid arthritis or people with long term mental health problems to get access to the programme.

3.   The Tax Credit and Benefit System

  No matter how much proponents of supported employment try to concentrate on the needs and aspirations of people with disabilities, in many cases the major barrier to employment is the benefit system. The system may only be a perceived barrier but, nonetheless, for disabled jobseekers, their parents, carers and support workers it is seen as a complex and unwieldy system that offers security when in receipt of a benefit, insecurity when in a job does not work out and the person has to make a further claim.

  A recent reply from the Department for Work and Pensions said that if a person on Incapacity Benefit went in to a job and it did not work out, the two-year linking rule would allow them to come back on to their original benefit. Now that sounds fine, but unfortunately five paragraphs later the same letter states that everyone's circumstances are different and there can be no guarantees. This, in effect, means there is no guarantee for anyone, as no agency will tell a client they can return to their benefit if the Department for Work and Pensions will not even give this guarantee. This situation is the ultimate turn-off when considering work.

4.   Summation

  Among the many radical changes that can be implemented, more access to employment through supported employment, early intervention for young people moving from education to adulthood and a radical change in philosophy from segregated services to opportunities in the community will not only bring about a fairer society but will also be beneficial in terms of savings on welfare benefits and the cost of upkeep of resource centres, etc.

  These are just some of the concerns that the Scottish Union of Supported Employment and its membership share in relation to employment for people with disabilities and we would wish a further opportunity to state our case to the select committee.

Dave Kelbie

National Co-ordinator

29 December 2002


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