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'[condition by Higher Education Funding Council for Wales in relation to fees of prescribed amount](1)(a) or (c)'.
Amendment No. 64, in page 16, line 31, leave out '26(1)(a) or (c)' and insert
'[condition that may be required to be imposed by Higher Education Funding Council for Wales (No. 2)](1)'.
Amendment No. 47, in page 17, line 3, leave out '26' and insert
'[condition by Higher Education Funding Council for Wales in relation to fees of prescribed amount]'.
Amendment No. 65, in page 17, line 3, leave out '26' and insert
'[condition that may be required to be imposed by Higher Education Funding Council for Wales (No. 2)]'.
Amendment No. 48, in page 17, line 5, leave out '26(3)' and insert
'[condition by Higher Education Funding Council for Wales in relation to fees of prescribed amount](3)'.
Amendment No. 66, in page 17, line 5, leave out '26(3)' and insert
'[condition that may be required to be imposed by Higher Education Funding Council for Wales (No. 2)](3)'.
Amendment No. 85, in page 17, line 7, leave out clause 37.
Amendment No. 26, in page 17, clause 38, leave out lines 18 and 19.
Amendment No. 86, in page 17, leave out line 20.
Amendment No. 27, in page 17, leave out lines 22 to 37.
Amendment No. 122, in page 19, line 3, clause 40, at end insert—
'(2A) After subsection (2) there is inserted—
"(2A) The maximum amount of a living cost grant available to any person prescribed by regulations under subsection (2)(b) in relation to an academic year shall not be less than 90 per cent. of the higher amount in relation to that academic year.
(2B) In subsection (2A) 'the higher amount' has the same meaning as in section 23 of the Higher Education Act 2004.".'.
Amendment No. 125, in page 19, line 3, at end insert—
'(2A) After subsection (3) there is inserted—
"(3A) The provision which may be made by virtue of subsection (2)(g) in relation to loans under this section may not include provision—
(a) for a borrower to be liable to make any repayment in respect of such a loan before the first day of the first year of assessment which falls more than fifteen years after the date on which his eligibility for a grant under regulations under subsection (2) terminates, and
(b) for such loans to bear interest before the day specified in paragraph (a).
(3B) In subsection (3A), 'year of assessment' means the period that begins with 6th April and ends with the following 5th April.".'.
Amendment No. 126, in page 19, line 3, at end insert—
'(2A) After subsection (3) there is inserted—
'(3A) The provision which may be made by virtue of subsection (2)(g) in relation to loans under this section may not include provision—
(a) for a borrower to be liable to make any repayment in respect of such a loan before the first day of the first year of assessment which falls more than ten years after the date on which his eligibility for a grant under regulations under subsection (2) terminates, and
(b) for such loans to bear interest before the day specified in paragraph (a).
(3B) In subsection (3A), 'year of assessment' means the period that begins with 6th April and ends with the following 5th April.".'.
Amendment No. 127, in page 19, line 3, at end insert—
'(2A) After subsection (3) there is inserted—
"(3A) The provision which may be made by virtue of subsection (2)(g) in relation to loans under this section may not include provision—
(a) for a borrower to be liable to make any repayment in respect of such a loan before the first day of the first year of assessment which falls more than five years after the date on which his eligibility for a grant under regulations under subsection (2) terminates, and
(b) for such loans to bear interest before the day specified in paragraph (a).
(3B) In subsection (3A), 'year of assessment' means the period that begins with 6th April and ends with the following 5th April.".'.
Amendment No. 13, in page 21, line 16, clause 43, leave out paragraph (a).
Amendment No. 49, in page 21, line 16, leave out
'24(1) or (2)(a)(ii) or (b)(ii)'
'[condition by English funding bodies in relation to fees of prescribed amount](7)'.
Amendment No. 14, in page 22, clause 48, leave out lines 7 to 18.
Amendment No. 28, in page 22, leave out lines 8 to 10.
Amendment No. 50, in page 22, line 8, leave out '23(6)' and insert
'[condition by English funding bodies in relation to fees of prescribed amount](6), (7) and (11)'.
Amendment No. 68, in page 22, line 8, leave out '23(6)' and insert
'[condition that may be required to be imposed by English funding bodies (No. 2)](5)'.
Amendment No. 51, in page 22, leave out line 9.
Amendment No. 15, in page 22, leave out lines 22 to 25.
Amendment No. 16, in page 22, leave out lines 30 and 31.
Amendment No. 17, in page 22, line 42, leave out from beginning to 'and' in line 45.
Amendment No. 30, in page 22, leave out line 42.
Amendment No. 52, in page 22, line 42, leave out '26' and insert
'[condition by Higher Education Funding Council for Wales in relation to fees of prescribed amount]'.
Amendment No. 70, in page 22, line 42, leave out '26' and insert
'[condition that may be required to be imposed by Higher Education Funding Council for Wales (No. 2)]'.
Amendment No. 31, in page 22, line 45, leave out 'section 36'.
Amendment No. 7, in page 31, line 1, leave out Schedule 5.
Amendment No. 8, in page 32, line 18, schedule 6, leave out paragraph 1.
Amendment No. 9, in page 32, line 35, leave out from 'Council' to end of line 36.
Amendment No. 10, in page 33, line 11, leave out paragraphs 7 and 8.
Amendment No. 11, in page 33, line 25, leave out from 'Council' to end of line 26.
Amendment No. 12, in page 33, schedule 7, leave out lines 34 to 36.
Mr. Collins: We come to the heart of the Bill. There is only one place that the debate can commence, and that is with the words:
- "We will not introduce 'top-up' fees and have legislated to prevent them"—
New clause 5 and various amendments in this large group attempt to draw out the issue of fees. The new clause would prevent the introduction of top-up fees and tuition fees. Let us consider some of the views expressed about the proposed legislation by outside organisations— [Interruption.] We will come to universities, as the Secretary of State seems to be saying something about them.
The British Medical Association
- "strongly opposes the introduction of top up fees for any students, including medical students."
- "Critics of the Bill should hold their ground."
- "We know that when the lid comes off fees, all hell will break loose."
The Secretary of State and Labour Members—or at least some Labour Members—may claim that the package on offer is in the interests of students and that they should welcome it. Presumably they believe that the National Union of Students has organised today's lobby at the House to say how delighted it is with the Government's proposals. I have to disillusion them: it is here to encourage hon. Members to vote not in support of the Bill, but against it.
The NUS has helpfully compiled considerable evidence from overseas on the attitude of students in other countries. We heard much in Committee, as we have at other times, of the Government's proposals for top-up fees modelling those in other countries, and of how the glorious successes and widespread popularity of what has been introduced in Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere would be eagerly welcomed in the United Kingdom. The NUS has been in touch with its equivalents around the world, and that is not what they say.
Mr. James Plaskitt (Warwick and Leamington) (Lab) rose—
Mr. Collins: I give way to the hon. Gentleman, who will no doubt know about legions of students who support his Government's proposals.
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