Mr. George Osborne:
What about the hon. Member for Pendle (Mr. Prentice)?
Mr. Raynsford:
Frankly, my hon. Friend the Member for Pendle (Mr. Prentice) made a series of allegations that are simply unsubstantiated; there is no evidence for them at all. We have heard speech after speech from hon. Members from the north-east who have made it perfectly clear that they have the greatest experience of all-postal voting and that it has been conducted without problem. He should listen to them, rather than trying to scaremonger in that the way that he did.
We have had a good debate. The orders are necessary to conduct regional referendums and to give people the opportunity to have a say on devolution
It being three hours after the commencement of proceedings on the motion, Mr. Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Order [14 July].
The House divided: Ayes 349, Noes 140.
Division No. 236
[6.4 pm
AYES
Ainger, Nick
Alexander, Douglas
Allan, Richard
Allen, Graham
Anderson, rh Donald
(Swansea E)
Anderson, Janet
(Rossendale & Darwen)
Armstrong, rh Ms Hilary
Austin, John
Bailey, Adrian
Baird, Vera
Baker, Norman
Banks, Tony
Barnes, Harry
Barrett, John
Battle, John
Bayley, Hugh
Beard, Nigel
Beckett, rh Margaret
Begg, Miss Anne
Beggs, Roy
(E Antrim)
Beith, rh A. J.
Bell, Sir Stuart
Bennett, Andrew
Berry, Roger
Best, Harold
Blears, Ms Hazel
Blizzard, Bob
Borrow, David
Bradley, Peter
(The Wrekin)
Brake, Tom
(Carshalton)
Breed, Colin
Brennan, Kevin
Brooke, Mrs Annette L.
Brown, rh Nicholas
(Newcastle E Wallsend)
Browne, Desmond
Bruce, Malcolm
Buck, Ms Karen
Burden, Richard
Burnham, Andy
Burstow, Paul
Byers, rh Stephen
Byrne, Liam
(B'ham Hodge H)
Cairns, David
Calton, Mrs Patsy
Campbell, Alan
(Tynemouth)
Campbell, Mrs Anne
(C'bridge)
Campbell, rh Sir Menzies
(NE Fife)
Campbell, Ronnie
(Blyth V)
Caplin, Ivor
Carmichael, Alistair
Casale, Roger
Caton, Martin
Challen, Colin
Chapman, Ben
(Wirral S)
Chaytor, David
Chidgey, David
Clapham, Michael
Clark, Mrs Helen
(Peterborough)
Clark, Paul
(Gillingham)
Clarke, rh Tom
(Coatbridge & Chryston)
Clarke, Tony
(Northampton S)
Clelland, David
Clwyd, Ann
(Cynon V)
Coaker, Vernon
Coffey, Ms Ann
Cohen, Harry
Cook, rh Robin
(Livingston)
Corbyn, Jeremy
Corston, Jean
Cotter, Brian
Cousins, Jim
Cox, Tom
(Tooting)
Cranston, Ross
Crausby, David
Cruddas, Jon
Cummings, John
Cunningham, Jim
(Coventry S)
Cunningham, Tony
(Workington)
Dalyell, Tam
Darling, rh Alistair
Davey, Edward
(Kingston)
Davey, Valerie
(Bristol W)
David, Wayne
Davidson, Ian
Davies, rh Denzil
(Llanelli)
Davies, Geraint
(Croydon C)
Dawson, Hilton
Dean, Mrs Janet
Denham, rh John
Dhanda, Parmjit
Dobbin, Jim
(Heywood)
Dobson, rh Frank
Dodds, Nigel
Dowd, Jim
(Lewisham W)
Drew, David
(Stroud)
Drown, Ms Julia
Eagle, Angela
(Wallasey)
Eagle, Maria
(L'pool Garston)
Edwards, Huw
Ellman, Mrs Louise
Ennis, Jeff
(Barnsley E)
Field, rh Frank
(Birkenhead)
Fisher, Mark
Fitzpatrick, Jim
Fitzsimons, Mrs Lorna
Follett, Barbara
Foster, Don
(Bath)
Foster, Michael
(Worcester)
Foulkes, rh George
Francis, Dr. Hywel
Gapes, Mike
(Ilford S)
George, Andrew
(St. Ives)
George, rh Bruce
(Walsall S)
Gerrard, Neil
Gibson, Dr. Ian
Gidley, Sandra
Gill, Parmjit Singh
Gilroy, Linda
Godsiff, Roger
Goggins, Paul
Green, Matthew
(Ludlow)
Griffiths, Jane
(Reading E)
Griffiths, Nigel
(Edinburgh S)
Griffiths, Win
(Bridgend)
Hain, rh Peter
Hall, Mike
(Weaver Vale)
Hall, Patrick
(Bedford)
Hamilton, David
(Midlothian)
Hamilton, Fabian
(Leeds NE)
Hancock, Mike
Hanson, David
Harvey, Nick
Havard, Dai
(Merthyr Tydfil & Rhymney)
Healey, John
Heath, David
Henderson, Doug
(Newcastle N)
Henderson, Ivan
(Harwich)
Hendrick, Mark
Hepburn, Stephen
Heyes, David
Hinchliffe, David
Hodge, Margaret
Hoey, Kate
(Vauxhall)
Holmes, Paul
Hope, Phil
(Corby)
Hopkins, Kelvin
Howarth, rh Alan
(Newport E)
Hughes, Beverley
(Stretford & Urmston)
Hughes, Kevin
(Doncaster N)
Humble, Mrs Joan
Hutton, rh John
Iddon, Dr. Brian
Illsley, Eric
Irranca-Davies, Huw
Jackson, Helen
(Hillsborough)
Jamieson, David
Jenkins, Brian
Johnson, Miss Melanie
(Welwyn Hatfield)
Jones, Helen
(Warrington N)
Jones, Kevan
(N Durham)
Jones, Lynne
(Selly Oak)
Jones, Martyn
(Clwyd S)
Jones, Nigel
(Cheltenham)
Jowell, rh Tessa
Joyce, Eric
(Falkirk W)
Keeble, Ms Sally
Keen, Ann
(Brentford)
Keetch, Paul
Kelly, Ruth
(Bolton W)
Kemp, Fraser
Kennedy, rh Charles
(Ross Skye & Inverness)
Kennedy, Jane
(Wavertree)
Khabra, Piara S.
Kidney, David
King, Andy
(Rugby)
King, Ms Oona
(Bethnal Green & Bow)
Kirkwood, Sir Archy
Knight, Jim
(S Dorset)
Kumar, Dr. Ashok
Ladyman, Dr. Stephen
Lammy, David
Laws, David
(Yeovil)
Laxton, Bob
(Derby N)
Lazarowicz, Mark
Lepper, David
Leslie, Christopher
Levitt, Tom
(High Peak)
Lewis, Ivan
(Bury S)
Liddell, rh Mrs Helen
Linton, Martin
Lloyd, Tony
(Manchester C)
Love, Andrew
Lucas, Ian
(Wrexham)
Luke, Iain
(Dundee E)
Lyons, John
(Strathkelvin)
McAvoy, Thomas
McCabe, Stephen
McCafferty, Chris
McCartney, rh Ian
McDonagh, Siobhain
MacDonald, Calum
McDonnell, John
MacDougall, John
McGuire, Mrs Anne
McKechin, Ann
Mackinlay, Andrew
McNamara, Kevin
McNulty, Tony
Mactaggart, Fiona
McWalter, Tony
Mahmood, Khalid
Mahon, Mrs Alice
Mallaber, Judy
Mandelson, rh Peter
Marris, Rob
(Wolverh'ton SW)
Marsden, Gordon
(Blackpool S)
Marsden, Paul
(Shrewsbury & Atcham)
Marshall-Andrews, Robert
Martlew, Eric
Meale, Alan
(Mansfield)
Merron, Gillian
Michael, rh Alun
Miliband, David
Miller, Andrew
Mitchell, Austin
(Gt Grimsby)
Moffatt, Laura
Mole, Chris
Moonie, Dr. Lewis
Moore, Michael
Moran, Margaret
Morgan, Julie
Morley, Elliot
Mountford, Kali
Mullin, Chris
Munn, Ms Meg
Murphy, Denis
(Wansbeck)
Murphy, Jim
(Eastwood)
Naysmith, Dr. Doug
Norris, Dan
(Wansdyke)
Oaten, Mark
(Winchester)
O'Brien, Bill
(Normanton)
O'Hara, Edward
Olner, Bill
Organ, Diana
Owen, Albert
Palmer, Dr. Nick
Perham, Linda
Picking, Anne
Pike, Peter
(Burnley)
Plaskitt, James
Pollard, Kerry
Pond, Chris
(Gravesham)
Prentice, Ms Bridget
(Lewisham E)
Prescott, rh John
Primarolo, rh Dawn
Prosser, Gwyn
Pugh, Dr. John
Purchase, Ken
Purnell, James
Quin, rh Joyce
Quinn, Lawrie
Rammell, Bill
Rapson, Syd
(Portsmouth N)
Raynsford, rh Nick
Reed, Andy
(Loughborough)
Reid, Alan
(Argyll & Bute)
Reid, rh Dr. John
(Hamilton N & Bellshill)
Rendel, David
Robertson, John
(Glasgow Anniesland)
Robinson, Geoffrey
(Coventry NW)
Roche, Mrs Barbara
Rooney, Terry
Ross, Ernie
(Dundee W)
Roy, Frank
(Motherwell)
Ruddock, Joan
Russell, Bob
(Colchester)
Russell, Ms Christine
(City of Chester)
Ryan, Joan
(Enfield N)
Sanders, Adrian
Sarwar, Mohammad
Savidge, Malcolm
Sawford, Phil
Shaw, Jonathan
Sheerman, Barry
Sheridan, Jim
Short, rh Clare
Simpson, Alan
(Nottingham S)
Skinner, Dennis
Smith, rh Andrew
(Oxford E)
Smith, Angela
(Basildon)
Smith, rh Chris
(Islington S & Finsbury)
Smith, Jacqui
(Redditch)
Smith, John
(Glamorgan)
Smith, Llew
(Blaenau Gwent)
Smith, Sir Robert
(W Ab'd'ns & Kincardine)
Smyth, Rev. Martin
(Belfast S)
Soley, Clive
Southworth, Helen
Spellar, rh John
Stewart, David
(Inverness E & Lochaber)
Stewart, Ian
(Eccles)
Stoate, Dr. Howard
Strang, rh Dr. Gavin
Stuart, Ms Gisela
Stunell, Andrew
Sutcliffe, Gerry
Tami, Mark
(Alyn)
Taylor, rh Ann
(Dewsbury)
Taylor, Dari
(Stockton S)
Taylor, David
(NW Leics)
Taylor, Matthew
(Truro)
Teather, Sarah
Thomas, Gareth
(Clwyd W)
Thomas, Gareth
(Harrow W)
Tipping, Paddy
Todd, Mark
(S Derbyshire)
Tonge, Dr. Jenny
Touhig, Don
(Islwyn)
Trickett, Jon
Truswell, Paul
Turner, Dennis
(Wolverh'ton SE)
Turner, Dr. Desmond
(Brighton Kemptown)
Turner, Neil
(Wigan)
Twigg, Derek
(Halton)
Twigg, Stephen
(Enfield)
Tyler, Paul
(N Cornwall)
Tynan, Bill
(Hamilton S)
Vaz, Keith
(Leicester E)
Vis, Dr. Rudi
Ward, Claire
Wareing, Robert N.
Watson, Tom
(W Bromwich E)
Watts, David
Webb, Steve
(Northavon)
White, Brian
Whitehead, Dr. Alan
Wicks, Malcolm
Williams, rh Alan
(Swansea W)
Williams, Betty
(Conwy)
Willis, Phil
Wills, Michael
Winnick, David
Winterton, Ms Rosie
(Doncaster C)
Woodward, Shaun
Woolas, Phil
Worthington, Tony
Wright, Anthony D.
(Gt Yarmouth)
Wright, Tony
(Cannock)
Younger-Ross, Richard
Tellers for the Ayes:
Charlotte Atkins and
Mr. John Heppell
NOES
Ainsworth, Peter
(E Surrey)
Amess, David
Ancram, rh Michael
Atkinson, David
(Bour'mth E)
Bacon, Richard
Baron, John
(Billericay)
Bellingham, Henry
Bercow, John
Beresford, Sir Paul
Blunt, Crispin
Boswell, Tim
Bottomley, Peter
(Worthing W)
Bottomley, rh Virginia
(SW Surrey)
Brady, Graham
Brazier, Julian
Browning, Mrs Angela
Burns, Simon
Burnside, David
Burt, Alistair
Butterfill, Sir John
Cameron, David
Cash, William
Chapman, Sir Sydney
(Chipping Barnet)
Chope, Christopher
Clappison, James
Clarke, rh Kenneth
(Rushcliffe)
Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey
Collins, Tim
Conway, Derek
Cormack, Sir Patrick
Cran, James
(Beverley)
Curry, rh David
Davies, Quentin
(Grantham & Stamford)
Davis, rh David
(Haltemprice & Howden)
Djanogly, Jonathan
Duncan, Alan
(Rutland)
Duncan Smith, rh Iain
Evans, Nigel
Fallon, Michael
Field, Mark
(Cities of London & Westminster)
Flight, Howard
Forth, rh Eric
Gale, Roger
(N Thanet)
Garnier, Edward
Gibb, Nick
(Bognor Regis)
Gillan, Mrs Cheryl
Goodman, Paul
Gray, James
(N Wilts)
Grayling, Chris
Green, Damian
(Ashford)
Greenway, John
Grieve, Dominic
Gummer, rh John
Hague, rh William
Hammond, Philip
Hawkins, Nick
Hayes, John
(S Holland)
Heald, Oliver
Heathcoat-Amory, rh David
Hendry, Charles
Hoban, Mark
(Fareham)
Hogg, rh Douglas
Horam, John
(Orpington)
Howard, rh Michael
Howarth, Gerald
(Aldershot)
Hunter, Andrew
Jack, rh Michael
Jenkin, Bernard
Johnson, Boris
(Henley)
Key, Robert
(Salisbury)
Kirkbride, Miss Julie
Laing, Mrs Eleanor
Lait, Mrs Jacqui
Leigh, Edward
Letwin, rh Oliver
Lewis, Dr. Julian
(New Forest E)
Liddell-Grainger, Ian
Lidington, David
Lilley, rh Peter
Loughton, Tim
Luff, Peter
(M-Worcs)
McIntosh, Miss Anne
Mackay, rh Andrew
Maclean, rh David
McLoughlin, Patrick
Malins, Humfrey
Maples, John
Mates, Michael
May, Mrs Theresa
Mercer, Patrick
Mitchell, Andrew
(Sutton Coldfield)
Moss, Malcolm
Murrison, Dr. Andrew
O'Brien, Stephen
(Eddisbury)
Osborne, George
(Tatton)
Ottaway, Richard
Page, Richard
Paice, James
Prentice, Gordon
(Pendle)
Prisk, Mark
(Hertford)
Randall, John
Redwood, rh John
Robertson, Hugh
(Faversham & M-Kent)
Robertson, Laurence
(Tewk'b'ry)
Roe, Dame Marion
Rosindell, Andrew
Ruffley, David
Selous, Andrew
Shephard, rh Mrs Gillian
Shepherd, Richard
Simmonds, Mark
Simpson, Keith
(M-Norfolk)
Smith, Geraldine
(Morecambe & Lunesdale)
Spelman, Mrs Caroline
Spicer, Sir Michael
Spink, Bob
(Castle Point)
Spring, Richard
Stanley, rh Sir John
Steen, Anthony
Streeter, Gary
Swayne, Desmond
Swire, Hugo
(E Devon)
Syms, Robert
Taylor, John
(Solihull)
Taylor, Dr. Richard
(Wyre F)
Taylor, Sir Teddy
Tredinnick, David
Turner, Andrew
(Isle of Wight)
Tyrie, Andrew
Viggers, Peter
Walter, Robert
Waterson, Nigel
Watkinson, Angela
Wiggin, Bill
Wilkinson, John
Willetts, David
Winterton, Ann
(Congleton)
Winterton, Sir Nicholas
(Macclesfield)
Yeo, Tim
(S Suffolk)
Young, rh Sir George
Tellers for the Noes:
Gregory Barker and
Mr. Peter Atkinson
Question accordingly agreed to.
21 Jul 2004 : Column 428
Resolved,
That the draft Regional Assembly and Local Government Referendums Order 2004, which was laid before this House on 24th June, be approved.