Mr. Pond:
I cannot give way because I am short on time.
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Conservative Members came to the House today with no substantive plans to provide security such as that which the pension protection fund and other provisions in the Pensions Bill offer. They declined to give that measure a Second Reading. Today, they argued against our proposals but offered nothing in their place. The House will see through the Opposition's cynical opportunism and so will pensioners.
Question put, That the original words stand part of the Question:
The House divided: Ayes 191, Noes 310.
Division No. 238
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AYES
Ainsworth, Peter
(E Surrey)
Allan, Richard
Amess, David
Ancram, rh Michael
Arbuthnot, rh James
Atkinson, David
(Bour'mth E)
Bacon, Richard
Baker, Norman
Baldry, Tony
Baron, John
(Billericay)
Barrett, John
Boswell, Tim
Bottomley, Peter
(Worthing W)
Bottomley, rh Virginia
(SW Surrey)
Brady, Graham
Brake, Tom
(Carshalton)
Brazier, Julian
Breed, Colin
Brooke, Mrs Annette L.
Browning, Mrs Angela
Burns, Simon
Burstow, Paul
Burt, Alistair
Butterfill, Sir John
Cable, Dr. Vincent
Calton, Mrs Patsy
Cameron, David
Campbell, Gregory
(E Lond'y)
Campbell, rh Sir Menzies
(NE Fife)
Carmichael, Alistair
Cash, William
Chope, Christopher
Clappison, James
Clarke, rh Kenneth
(Rushcliffe)
Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey
Collins, Tim
Conway, Derek
Cormack, Sir Patrick
Cotter, Brian
Cran, James
(Beverley)
Curry, rh David
Davey, Edward
(Kingston)
Davies, Quentin
(Grantham & Stamford)
Davis, rh David
(Haltemprice & Howden)
Djanogly, Jonathan
Donaldson, Jeffrey M.
Dorrell, rh Stephen
Doughty, Sue
Duncan, Alan
(Rutland)
Duncan, Peter
(Galloway)
Ewing, Annabelle
Fabricant, Michael
Fallon, Michael
Field, Mark
(Cities of London & Westminster)
Flight, Howard
Flook, Adrian
Foster, Don
(Bath)
Francois, Mark
Gale, Roger
(N Thanet)
George, Andrew
(St. Ives)
Gibb, Nick
(Bognor Regis)
Gidley, Sandra
Gill, Parmjit Singh
Goodman, Paul
Gray, James
(N Wilts)
Grayling, Chris
Green, Damian
(Ashford)
Green, Matthew
(Ludlow)
Greenway, John
Grieve, Dominic
Hague, rh William
Hammond, Philip
Hancock, Mike
Hawkins, Nick
Hayes, John
(S Holland)
Heald, Oliver
Heath, David
Heathcoat-Amory, rh David
Hendry, Charles
Hermon, Lady
Hoban, Mark
(Fareham)
Hogg, rh Douglas
Holmes, Paul
Horam, John
(Orpington)
Howarth, Gerald
(Aldershot)
Jack, rh Michael
Jackson, Robert
(Wantage)
Jenkin, Bernard
Jones, Nigel
(Cheltenham)
Keetch, Paul
Kennedy, rh Charles
(Ross Skye & Inverness)
Key, Robert
(Salisbury)
Kirkwood, Sir Archy
Knight, rh Greg
(E Yorkshire)
Laing, Mrs Eleanor
Lamb, Norman
Lansley, Andrew
Laws, David
(Yeovil)
Leigh, Edward
Letwin, rh Oliver
Lewis, Dr. Julian
(New Forest E)
Liddell-Grainger, Ian
Lidington, David
Lilley, rh Peter
Llwyd, Elfyn
Loughton, Tim
Luff, Peter
(M-Worcs)
McIntosh, Miss Anne
Mackay, rh Andrew
McLoughlin, Patrick
Malins, Humfrey
Maples, John
Mates, Michael
Mawhinney, rh Sir Brian
May, Mrs Theresa
Mercer, Patrick
Mitchell, Andrew
(Sutton Coldfield)
Moore, Michael
Murrison, Dr. Andrew
Norman, Archie
Oaten, Mark
(Winchester)
O'Brien, Stephen
(Eddisbury)
Öpik, Lembit
Osborne, George
(Tatton)
Ottaway, Richard
Paice, James
Paterson, Owen
Pickles, Eric
Price, Adam
(E Carmarthen & Dinefwr)
Prisk, Mark
(Hertford)
Pugh, Dr. John
Randall, John
Redwood, rh John
Reid, Alan
(Argyll & Bute)
Rendel, David
Robathan, Andrew
Robertson, Angus
(Moray)
Robertson, Hugh
(Faversham & M-Kent)
Robertson, Laurence
(Tewk'b'ry)
Robinson, Mrs Iris
(Strangford)
Ruffley, David
Russell, Bob
(Colchester)
Sanders, Adrian
Selous, Andrew
Shephard, rh Mrs Gillian
Shepherd, Richard
Simmonds, Mark
Simpson, Keith
(M-Norfolk)
Smith, Sir Robert
(W Ab'd'ns & Kincardine)
Smyth, Rev. Martin
(Belfast S)
Soames, Nicholas
Spelman, Mrs Caroline
Spicer, Sir Michael
Spink, Bob
(Castle Point)
Spring, Richard
Steen, Anthony
Streeter, Gary
Stunell, Andrew
Swayne, Desmond
Syms, Robert
Tapsell, Sir Peter
Taylor, Ian
(Esher)
Taylor, John
(Solihull)
Taylor, Sir Teddy
Teather, Sarah
Thomas, Simon
(Ceredigion)
Thurso, John
Tonge, Dr. Jenny
Trend, Michael
Trimble, rh David
Turner, Andrew
(Isle of Wight)
Tyler, Paul
(N Cornwall)
Tyrie, Andrew
Walter, Robert
Waterson, Nigel
Watkinson, Angela
Webb, Steve
(Northavon)
Weir, Michael
Whittingdale, John
Wiggin, Bill
Wilkinson, John
Willetts, David
Williams, Hywel
(Caernarfon)
Willis, Phil
Wilshire, David
Winterton, Ann
(Congleton)
Winterton, Sir Nicholas
(Macclesfield)
Wishart, Pete
Yeo, Tim
(S Suffolk)
Young, rh Sir George
Younger-Ross, Richard
Tellers for the Ayes:
Mr. Peter Atkinson and
Gregory Barker
NOES
Adams, Irene
(Paisley N)
Ainger, Nick
Ainsworth, Bob
(Cov'try NE)
Alexander, Douglas
Allen, Graham
Anderson, Janet
(Rossendale & Darwen)
Atherton, Ms Candy
Atkins, Charlotte
Austin, John
Bailey, Adrian
Baird, Vera
Banks, Tony
Barnes, Harry
Barron, rh Kevin
Battle, John
Bayley, Hugh
Beard, Nigel
Beckett, rh Margaret
Begg, Miss Anne
Bell, Sir Stuart
Bennett, Andrew
Benton, Joe
(Bootle)
Berry, Roger
Best, Harold
Betts, Clive
Blackman, Liz
Blears, Ms Hazel
Blizzard, Bob
Boateng, rh Paul
Borrow, David
Bradley, rh Keith
(Withington)
Bradley, Peter
(The Wrekin)
Bradshaw, Ben
Brown, rh Nicholas
(Newcastle E Wallsend)
Brown, Russell
(Dumfries)
Browne, Desmond
Buck, Ms Karen
Burden, Richard
Byrne, Liam
(B'ham Hodge H)
Cairns, David
Campbell, Alan
(Tynemouth)
Campbell, Mrs Anne
(C'bridge)
Campbell, Ronnie
(Blyth V)
Caplin, Ivor
Casale, Roger
Caton, Martin
Cawsey, Ian
(Brigg)
Challen, Colin
Chapman, Ben
(Wirral S)
Chaytor, David
Clapham, Michael
Clark, Mrs Helen
(Peterborough)
Clark, Dr. Lynda
(Edinburgh Pentlands)
Clark, Paul
(Gillingham)
Clarke, rh Tom
(Coatbridge & Chryston)
Clarke, Tony
(Northampton S)
Clelland, David
Clwyd, Ann
(Cynon V)
Coffey, Ms Ann
Cohen, Harry
Colman, Tony
Cook, Frank
(Stockton N)
Cook, rh Robin
(Livingston)
Corbyn, Jeremy
Corston, Jean
Cousins, Jim
Crausby, David
Cruddas, Jon
Cryer, John
(Hornchurch)
Cummings, John
Cunningham, Jim
(Coventry S)
Cunningham, Tony
(Workington)
Curtis-Thomas, Mrs Claire
Dalyell, Tam
Davey, Valerie
(Bristol W)
David, Wayne
Davidson, Ian
Davies, rh Denzil
(Llanelli)
Davies, Geraint
(Croydon C)
Dawson, Hilton
Dean, Mrs Janet
Denham, rh John
Dhanda, Parmjit
Dismore, Andrew
Dobbin, Jim
(Heywood)
Dobson, rh Frank
Donohoe, Brian H.
Doran, Frank
Dowd, Jim
(Lewisham W)
Drew, David
(Stroud)
Drown, Ms Julia
Eagle, Angela
(Wallasey)
Eagle, Maria
(L'pool Garston)
Edwards, Huw
Efford, Clive
Ellman, Mrs Louise
Ennis, Jeff
(Barnsley E)
Farrelly, Paul
Field, rh Frank
(Birkenhead)
Fisher, Mark
Fitzsimons, Mrs Lorna
Flint, Caroline
Follett, Barbara
Foster, rh Derek
Foster, Michael
(Worcester)
Foster, Michael Jabez
(Hastings & Rye)
Foulkes, rh George
Francis, Dr. Hywel
Gapes, Mike
(Ilford S)
George, rh Bruce
(Walsall S)
Gerrard, Neil
Gibson, Dr. Ian
Gilroy, Linda
Godsiff, Roger
Goggins, Paul
Griffiths, Jane
(Reading E)
Griffiths, Win
(Bridgend)
Grogan, John
Hain, rh Peter
Hall, Mike
(Weaver Vale)
Hall, Patrick
(Bedford)
Hanson, David
Harman, rh Ms Harriet
Harris, Tom
(Glasgow Cathcart)
Healey, John
Hendrick, Mark
Heppell, John
Hesford, Stephen
Hewitt, rh Ms Patricia
Heyes, David
Hodge, Margaret
Hoon, rh Geoffrey
Hope, Phil
(Corby)
Hopkins, Kelvin
Howarth, rh Alan
(Newport E)
Howarth, George
(Knowsley N & Sefton E)
Howells, Dr. Kim
Hughes, Beverley
(Stretford & Urmston)
Humble, Mrs Joan
Hurst, Alan
(Braintree)
Hutton, rh John
Iddon, Dr. Brian
Ingram, rh Adam
Jackson, Glenda
(Hampstead & Highgate)
Jackson, Helen
(Hillsborough)
Jamieson, David
Jenkins, Brian
Johnson, Miss Melanie
(Welwyn Hatfield)
Jones, Helen
(Warrington N)
Jones, Jon Owen
(Cardiff C)
Jones, Lynne
(Selly Oak)
Jowell, rh Tessa
Joyce, Eric
(Falkirk W)
Kaufman, rh Sir Gerald
Keeble, Ms Sally
Keen, Alan
(Feltham)
Keen, Ann
(Brentford)
Kelly, Ruth
(Bolton W)
Kennedy, Jane
(Wavertree)
Khabra, Piara S.
Kidney, David
Kilfoyle, Peter
King, Ms Oona
(Bethnal Green & Bow)
Knight, Jim
(S Dorset)
Ladyman, Dr. Stephen
Lammy, David
Laxton, Bob
(Derby N)
Lazarowicz, Mark
Lepper, David
Leslie, Christopher
Levitt, Tom
(High Peak)
Lewis, Ivan
(Bury S)
Lewis, Terry
(Worsley)
Linton, Martin
Lloyd, Tony
(Manchester C)
Love, Andrew
Lucas, Ian
(Wrexham)
Luke, Iain
(Dundee E)
McAvoy, Thomas
McCabe, Stephen
McDonagh, Siobhain
McDonnell, John
McFall, rh John
McGrady, Eddie
McIsaac, Shona
McKechin, Ann
McKenna, Rosemary
McNamara, Kevin
McNulty, Tony
MacShane, Denis
Mactaggart, Fiona
McWalter, Tony
McWilliam, John
Mahmood, Khalid
Mahon, Mrs Alice
Mallaber, Judy
Mann, John
(Bassetlaw)
Marsden, Gordon
(Blackpool S)
Martlew, Eric
Meacher, rh Michael
Merron, Gillian
Michael, rh Alun
Milburn, rh Alan
Miliband, David
Miller, Andrew
Mitchell, Austin
(Gt Grimsby)
Moffatt, Laura
Moran, Margaret
Morgan, Julie
Morley, Elliot
Mountford, Kali
Mudie, George
Mullin, Chris
Munn, Ms Meg
Murphy, rh Paul
(Torfaen)
Naysmith, Dr. Doug
Norris, Dan
(Wansdyke)
O'Brien, Bill
(Normanton)
O'Brien, Mike
(N Warks)
O'Neill, Martin
Osborne, Sandra
(Ayr)
Perham, Linda
Picking, Anne
Pickthall, Colin
Pike, Peter
(Burnley)
Plaskitt, James
Pollard, Kerry
Pond, Chris
(Gravesham)
Pope, Greg
(Hyndburn)
Pound, Stephen
Prentice, Ms Bridget
(Lewisham E)
Prentice, Gordon
(Pendle)
Prescott, rh John
Primarolo, rh Dawn
Prosser, Gwyn
Purchase, Ken
Quin, rh Joyce
Quinn, Lawrie
Rammell, Bill
Rapson, Syd
(Portsmouth N)
Reed, Andy
(Loughborough)
Reid, rh Dr. John
(Hamilton N & Bellshill)
Robinson, Geoffrey
(Coventry NW)
Roche, Mrs Barbara
Rooney, Terry
Ross, Ernie
(Dundee W)
Roy, Frank
(Motherwell)
Ruane, Chris
Ruddock, Joan
Russell, Ms Christine
(City of Chester)
Salter, Martin
Sarwar, Mohammad
Savidge, Malcolm
Sawford, Phil
Sedgemore, Brian
Shaw, Jonathan
Sheerman, Barry
Sheridan, Jim
Shipley, Ms Debra
Short, rh Clare
Simpson, Alan
(Nottingham S)
Singh, Marsha
Skinner, Dennis
Smith, Angela
(Basildon)
Smith, rh Chris
(Islington S & Finsbury)
Smith, Llew
(Blaenau Gwent)
Southworth, Helen
Spellar, rh John
Squire, Rachel
Starkey, Dr. Phyllis
Steinberg, Gerry
Stewart, David
(Inverness E & Lochaber)
Stewart, Ian
(Eccles)
Stinchcombe, Paul
Stoate, Dr. Howard
Strang, rh Dr. Gavin
Stringer, Graham
Sutcliffe, Gerry
Tami, Mark
(Alyn)
Taylor, David
(NW Leics)
Taylor, Dr. Richard
(Wyre F)
Thomas, Gareth
(Clwyd W)
Thomas, Gareth
(Harrow W)
Tipping, Paddy
Todd, Mark
(S Derbyshire)
Touhig, Don
(Islwyn)
Trickett, Jon
Truswell, Paul
Turner, Dennis
(Wolverh'ton SE)
Turner, Dr. Desmond
(Brighton Kemptown)
Twigg, Derek
(Halton)
Twigg, Stephen
(Enfield)
Tynan, Bill
(Hamilton S)
Vis, Dr. Rudi
Walley, Ms Joan
Ward, Claire
Wareing, Robert N.
Watson, Tom
(W Bromwich E)
White, Brian
Wicks, Malcolm
Williams, Betty
(Conwy)
Wills, Michael
Winnick, David
Winterton, Ms Rosie
(Doncaster C)
Wood, Mike
(Batley)
Woolas, Phil
Worthington, Tony
Wright, David
(Telford)
Wright, Tony
(Cannock)
Wyatt, Derek
Tellers for the Noes:
Jim Fitzpatrick and
Joan Ryan
Question accordingly negatived.
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Question, That the proposed words be there added, put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments), and agreed to.
Mr Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.