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Page 84 2003-2004 Volume 260 [No. 23.] Monday 19th January 2004. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Committal 1. The Bill shall be committed to a Standing Committee. Proceedings in Standing Committee 2. Proceedings in the Standing Committee shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion on 10th February 2004. 3. The Standing Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on which it meets. Consideration and Third Reading 4. Proceedings on consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour before the moment of interruption on the day on which those proceedings are commenced. 5. Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the moment of interruption on that day. Programming Committee 6. Sessional Order B (programming committees) made on 28th June 2001 shall not apply to proceedings on consideration and Third Reading. Programming of proceedings 7. All other proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments or on any further messages from the Lords) may be programmed(Mr Fraser Kemp); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Nick Ainger, Gillian Merron: 286. Tellers for the Noes, Hugh Robertson, Mr Mark Francois: 138. So the Question was agreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Civil Contingencies Bill, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of (1) expenditure of a Minister of the Crown in connection with the Act, and (2) any increase attributable to the Act in sums payable out of money provided by Parliament under another enactment(Mr Fraser Kemp):It was agreed to.
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And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then a quarter to Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 10.45 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 16th January 2004 pursuant to Standing Order No. 158 (Presentation of command papers):
Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 16th January 2004 pursuant to Standing Order No. 159 (Presentation of statutory instruments): Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Papers presented or laid upon the Table on Monday 19th January 2004: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(1) the Department of Health, and (2) the Teachers' Pension Scheme (England and Wales) for 200203, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 191 and 202] [Ruth Kelly].
(1) the Secretary of State for Defence on the Petition [9th December] from residents of the town of Stafford and surrounding areas for the review of RAF Stafford to have regard to the base's relations with the area and its contribution to the local economy; and (2) the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions on the Petition [11th December] from the concerned citizens of North Tayside for the survival of the pension book as a means of collecting pensions from local post offices [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House]. Page 86 Monday 19th January 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top
(1) the National Insurance Fund, and (2) the Social Fund for 200203, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 159 and 214] [Clerk of the House]. APPENDIX II Standing Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Eighth Report from the Committee [The England national stadium project at Wembley]; to be printed, together with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 254]; and (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Difficult Forms: How government agencies interact with citizens]; to be printed [No. 255-i] [Mr Edward Leigh].
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [EU Chemicals Legislation]; to be printed [No. 172-i] [Dr Ian Gibson]. [No. 24.] Tuesday 20th January 2004. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
Bill, not amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow. Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 257].
And the Motion being opposed, after a brief explanatory statement from the Member who made the Motion and from a Member who opposed it, the Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 23 (Motions for leave to bring in bills and nomination of select committees at commencement of public business). Page 87 Tuesday 20th January 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Dismore, Ms Karen Buck: 118. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Eric Forth, Mr Andrew Turner: 21. So the Question was agreed to. Ordered, That Mr Andrew Dismore, Ms Karen Buck, Mr Iain Coleman, Mr Andrew Love, Tony Wright, Sir Sydney Chapman, James Purnell, Linda Perham, John Austin, Annette Brooke, Keith Vaz and Mr Stephen Pound do prepare and bring in the Bill.
The Motion was, with leave of the House, withdrawn.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-six minutes past Six o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 6.26 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(1) Bedford Education Action Zone, (2) Camborn Pool and Redruth Education Action Zone, (3) Downham & Bellingham Education Action Zone, (4) East Manchester Education Action Zone, and Page 88 Tuesday 20th January 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top (5) Gloucester Education Action Zone, for 200203, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 236, 237, 238, 239 and 240] [Clerk of the House]. APPENDIX II Reports from Select Committees
(2) Second Special Report from the Committee [Government Observations on the Seventeenth Report from the Committee, Session 200203, on the Nuclear Decommissioning Authority: Pre-legislative scrutiny of the draft Nuclear Sites and Radioactive Substances Bill]; to be printed [No. 261]; and (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Progress towards the knowledge driven economy]; to be printed [No. 262-i and -ii] [Mr Martin O'Neill]. [No. 24; WH, No. 12] Tuesday 20th January 2004. The House sitting in Westminster Hall The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And the sitting having continued for two and a half hours after Two o'clock, it was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 4.30 p.m. [No. 25.] Wednesday 21st January 2004. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
That, if the Bill is brought from the Lords in the present Session, a declaration signed by the agent shall be deposited in the Private Bill Office, stating that the Bill is the same in every respect as the Bill brought from the Lords in the last Session; That the Clerk in the Private Bill Office shall lay upon the Table of the House a certificate, that such a declaration has been deposited; Page 89 Wednesday 21st January 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top That in the present Session the Bill shall be deemed to have passed through every stage through which it passed in the last Session, and shall be recorded in the Journal of the House as having passed those stages; That no further fees shall be charged to such stages; And the Question being again proposed; And objection being taken to further proceeding, the Debate stood adjourned. Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Wednesday 28th January.
That the Committee takes note of European Union Document No. 12985/03, draft Directive on the protection of groundwater against pollution; and supports the Government's aim of negotiating a flexible, risk-based instrument, which takes account of the variability of groundwater and its uses, in accordance with the Government's policy of effective groundwater protection. Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.
Disability Discrimination Bill (Joint Committee),The Lords communicate that they have appointed a Committee of six Lords to join with the Committee appointed by the Commons to consider and report on the draft Disability Discrimination Bill presented to both Houses on 3rd December 2003 (Cm. 6058); They have ordered that the Committee have power to agree with the Commons in the appointment of a Chairman; That the Committee have leave to report from time to time; That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers; That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom; That the quorum of the Committee shall be two; That the reports of the Committee from time to time shall be printed, notwithstanding any adjournment of the House; and That the Committee do report on the draft Bill by the end of April 2004.
Case for a Civil Service Bill,A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House calls on the Government to introduce a Civil Service Bill in this Parliamentary Session(Mr Kenneth Clarke); An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word House' to the end of the Question and add the words welcomes the Government's commitment, in its response to the Ninth Report of the Committee on Standards in Public Life, to publish a draft Civil Service Bill for consultation; acknowledges the contribution made to the discussion of these issues in recent days by the Select Committee on Public Administration; notes the failure of any previous Conservative Government Page 90 Wednesday 21st January 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top to legislate for the Civil Service; and welcomes this Government's commitment to reforming and modernising the Civil Service to ensure that it continues to deliver a first class service to the people of this country', instead thereof.(Mr Douglas Alexander.) And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Gregory Barker, Mr Peter Atkinson: 209. Tellers for the Noes, Gillian Merron, Margaret Moran: 328. So the Question was negatived. And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):It was agreed to. The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to. Resolved, That this House welcomes the Government's commitment, in its response to the Ninth Report of the Committee on Standards in Public Life, to publish a draft Civil Service Bill for consultation; acknowledges the contribution made to the discussion of these issues in recent days by the Select Committee on Public Administration; notes the failure of any previous Conservative Government to legislate for the Civil Service; and welcomes this Government's commitment to reforming and modernising the Civil Service to ensure that it continues to deliver a first class service to the people of this country. Voting Rights for Honourable Members Representing Scottish Seats,A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House deplores the practice of Right honourable and honourable Members representing Scottish constituences voting on bills concerning issues that have been devolved to the Scottish Parliament, especially those which introduce in England measures that have been rejected in Scotland; condemns the unfairness that this represents to those in English constituencies and the Government's failure to address the problem; notes that it is the practice of the honourable Member for Galloway and Upper Nithsdale voluntarily to abstain from voting on such legislation; calls on other Right honourable and honourable Members representing Scottish constituencies similarly to abstain from such votes; and believes that the fairest long-term solution is for bills on areas of policy which have been devolved to Scotland to be so ratified by the Speaker and for Right honourable and honourable Members from Scottish constituencies to abstain from voting on such bills(Mr Peter Duncan); An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word House' to the end of the Question and add the words believes that Parliament is the Parliament for the whole of the United Kingdom, and that all Right honourable and honourable Members are equal in status and have a right to speak and vote on all matters brought before Parliament; and opposes any step that would undermine the Union of the United Kingdom', instead thereof.(Mrs Anne McGuire.) And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question; David Maclean rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put. And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:It was agreed to. And the Question being accordingly put; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Peter Atkinson, Gregory Barker: 142. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Vernon Coaker, Paul Clark: 377. So the Question was negatived. And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Vernon Coaker, Paul Clark: 364. Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Wilshire, Mr Mark Francois: 141. So the Question was agreed to. The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to. Resolved, That this House believes that Parliament is the Parliament for the whole of the United Kingdom, and that all Right honourable and honourable Members are equal in status and have a right to speak and vote on all matters brought before Parliament; and opposes any step that would undermine the Union of the United Kingdom. Page 91 Wednesday 21st January 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till six minutes to Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 7.54 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
(2) draft Immigration (Provision of Physical Data) (Amendment) Regulations 2004 [by Act], with Explanatory Memoranda thereon [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett]. Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(1) Lambeth Education Action Zone for 200203, (2) Newham Education Action Zone for 200304, (3) Slough Education Action Zone for 200203, (4) South East England Virtual Education Action Zone for 200203, and (5) Southend Education Action Zone for 200203, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 241, 242, 243, 244 and 245] [by Act] [Clerk of the House].
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(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee A; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Hugh Bayley, Mr David Borrow, Mr Christopher Chope, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Greg Knight, Mr Tony McNulty, John Mann, Mr Paul Marsden, Gillian Merron, Mr Andrew Miller, Mr John Redwood, John Thurso, Claire Ward, Brian White, Mr David Wilshire and David Wright.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee D; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated seventeen Members to serve on the Committee: Charlotte Atkins, Mr Peter Atkinson, Mr Henry Bellingham, Malcolm Bruce, Brian Cotter, Jon Cruddas, Mr Jonathan Djanogly, Mr Michael Jabez Foster, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Mr John Lyons, Albert Owen, Anne Picking, Jim Sheridan, Ian Stewart, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Bill Tynan and Hywel Williams.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee F; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty-one Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Douglas Alexander, Mr Richard Allan, Andy Burnham, Mr Alan Campbell, Mr Alistair Carmichael, Mr James Clappison, Jim Dowd, Mr Oliver Heald, Helen Jackson, Mr Mark Lazarowicz, Mr Elfyn Llwyd, Fiona Mactaggart, Patrick Mercer, Sandra Osborne, Mr Greg Pope, Mr Stephen Pound, Bridget Prentice, Lawrie Quinn, Mr Michael Trend, Mr Neil Turner and Angela Watkinson.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee G; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated nineteen Members to serve on the Committee: Virginia Bottomley, Harry Cohen, Valerie Davey, Mrs Louise Ellman, Mr Mark Francois, Dr Ian Gibson, Dr Evan Harris, Mr Peter Kilfoyle, Jim Knight, Dr Stephen Ladyman, Mr Andrew Lansley, Ian Lucas, Mr Malcolm Moss, Dr Andrew Murrison, Dr Doug Naysmith, Joan Ryan, Dr Richard Taylor, Mr Tom Watson and Ms Rosie Winterton.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Norman Baker, Mr Crispin Blunt, Mr David Crausby, Tony Cunningham, Mr Stephen Dorrell, Mr Dai Havard, Mr Terry Lewis, Miss Anne McIntosh, Mr Elliot Morley, Jonathan Shaw, Mr John Smith, Dr Gavin Strang, Mr Roger Williams, Mr David Wilshire and Mr Anthony D. Wright.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Peter Bottomley, Kevin Brennan, Mr Alistair Carmichael, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr Vernon Coaker, Mr Tony Colman, Mr Robin Cook, Mr Parmjit Dhanda, Mr Mark Field, Mr Tom Harris, Helen Jones, Christine Russell, The Reverend Martin Smyth, Mr John Spellar, Mr Ian Taylor and Paddy Tipping.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Orders to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Martin Caton, Ross Cranston, Mr Ian Davidson, Mr Mark Francois, Mr Nick Gibb, Kate Hoey, Mr Bob Laxton, Mr Ivan Lewis, Mr Iain Luke, Mr Jim Marshall, Mr Michael Meacher, Dr John Pugh, Mr Mark Simmonds, Derek Twigg, Mr Robert Walter and Mr Phil Willis. Page 93 Wednesday 21st January 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Tony Clarke, Geraint Davies, Mr Brian H. Donohoe, Mr Adrian Flook, Mr George Foulkes, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr David Heath, Mr David Heyes, Mr Robert Key, Mr Piara S. Khabra, Mr Christopher Leslie, Mr Robert Marshall-Andrews, Mr Jim Murphy, Mr Kerry Pollard, Bob Russell and Angela Watkinson.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Russell Brown, Chris Bryant, Richard Burden, Mr John Burnett, Mr James Clappison, Mrs Helen Clark, Geraint Davies, Mr Dominic Grieve, Mr David Heath, Mr John Heppell, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mr David Lammy, Mr Andrew Rosindell, Mr Frank Roy, Mr Martin Salter and Angela Watkinson. European Standing Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Third Special Report from the Committee [Government's Reply to the Seventeenth Report from the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee, Session 200203, on Biofuels]; to be printed [No. 270]; and (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Implementation of CAP Reform in the UK]; to be printed [No. 226-ii] [Mr Michael Jack].
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Pre-Budget Report 2003]; to be printed [No. 233-i] [Mr Peter Ainsworth].
(2) Eighth Report from the Committee [The Committee's work in 2003], together with Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 19th November 2003; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 42-viii] [Mr Jimmy Hood].
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(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Work of the Vehicle & Operator Services Agency and the Vehicle Certification Agency]; to be printed [No. 250-i] [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
[No. 25; WH, No. 13] Wednesday 21st January 2004. The House sitting in Westminster Hall The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 4.44 p.m. [No. 26.] Thursday 22nd January 2004. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
Fishery Limits (United Kingdom) Bill [Lords],The Lords have passed a Bill to make provision for the United Kingdom to withdraw from the Common Fisheries Policy of the European Union; to amend the Fishery Limits Act 1976; and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
Page 95 Thursday 22nd January 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top Committal 1. The Bill shall be committed to a Standing Committee. Proceedings in Standing Committee 2. Proceedings in the Standing Committee shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion on Thursday 26th February 2004. Consideration and Third Reading 3. Proceedings on consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour before the moment of interruption on the day on which those proceedings are commenced. 4. Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the moment of interruption on the day on which proceedings on consideration are commenced. 5. Sessional Order B (programming committees) made on 28th June 2001 shall not apply to proceedings on consideration and third reading. Programming of proceedings 6. All other proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on consideration of Lords amendments or on any further messages from the Lords) may be programmed(Mr John Heppell):It was agreed to.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Armed Forces (Pensions and Compensation) Bill, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of any expenses incurred by the Secretary of State in pursuance of that Act(Mr John Heppell):It was agreed to.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-seven minutes past Six o'clock, adjourned till Monday 26th January. [Adjourned at 6.27 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
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Other Papers:
(2) Service Children's Education Report and Accounts for 200203, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 223] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
APPENDIX II Standing Committees
(1) The Speaker has appointed Mr Eric Forth Chairman of the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the Regulations; and (2) The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Anthony D. Wright from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations) and nominated in substitution Tony Wright.
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European Standing Committees
APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Restoring confidence in long-term savings]; to be printed [No. 275] [Mr John McFall]. [No. 26; WH, No. 14] Thursday 22nd January 2004. The House sitting in Westminster Hall The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 27th January. [Adjourned at 5.16 p.m.
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