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Page 333 2003-2004 Volume 260 [No. 87.] Monday 17th May 2004. The House met at half-past Two o'clock. PRAYERS.
Bill to be read a second time on Friday 16th July.
Security situation in Iraq,A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes with concern the deteriorating security situation in Iraq and the Middle East and the impact on public opinion in Iraq of the reports of mistreatment of Iraqi citizens and detainees; believes that progress in Iraq is only possible if the role of the United Nations is expanded and enhanced and the transfer of sovereignty to the Iraqis on 30th June is real and visible; recalls that on 18th March 2003 when this House endorsed military action against Saddam Hussein it did so on an understanding that progress on the road map for a peace settlement between Israel and the Palestinians would be a priority for Her Majesty's Government; expresses its disappointment that recent events have made the achievement of a negotiated two state solution more difficult and less likely; recognises the bravery and professionalism of British armed forces serving in Iraq in difficult and dangerous circumstances; calls upon Her Majesty's Government not to commit any further troops unless requested by United Kingdom commanders in Iraq for the purposes of securing the safety of British forces and the fulfilling of Britain's legal obligations under international law towards the inhabitants of Iraq; and further declares that any such troops should remain under United Kingdom operational command and within the area currently under United Kingdom control(Sir Menzies Campbell); An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word House' to the end of the Question and add the words welcomes the work being done by the UK and its Coalition partners to establish stability and security in Iraq; regards any mistreatment of Iraqis by Coalition forces to be unacceptable; recognises the bravery and professionalism of British forces in Iraq in assisting the Iraqi people in rebuilding Iraq; applauds the work of the UN Secretary-General's special adviser, Lakhdar Brahimi, for his contribution to helping establish a sovereign Iraqi Interim Government which will assume power by 30th June; and supports the Government in its efforts to secure a new Security Council resolution and deliver the wishes of the Iraqi people for a sovereign, stable and democratic Iraq', instead thereof.(Mr Secretary Hoon.) And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Richard Younger-Ross, Mr Alan Reid: 60. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr Vernon Coaker: 393. So the Question was negatived. And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):It was agreed to. The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to. Resolved, That this House welcomes the work being done by the UK and its Coalition partners to establish stability and security in Iraq; regards any mistreatment of Iraqis by Coalition forces to be unacceptable; recognises the bravery and professionalism of British forces in Iraq in assisting the Iraqi people in rebuilding Iraq; applauds the work of the UN Secretary-General's special adviser, Lakhdar Brahimi, for his contribution to helping establish a sovereign Iraqi Interim Government which will assume power by 30th June; and supports the Government in its efforts to secure a new Security Council resolution and deliver the wishes of the Iraqi people for a sovereign, stable and democratic Iraq. Local Government Finance,A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes that council tax has risen by 70 per cent. since Labour came to power and that the Budget Red Book forecasts a rise in council tax receipts next year of over 7 per cent; further notes that these rises are hitting particularly hard those on low and modest incomes because of the way council tax was designed by the last Conservative Government; is concerned that this manifest unfairness of council tax now means that the poorest 10 per cent. of people pay over four times more of their income in council tax than the richest 10 per cent; notes that the whole system of local government finance Page 334 Monday 17th May 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top needs major reform owing to the problems caused by the dependency of councils on central government grants that produces the gearing effect whereby on average councils must raise council tax by 4 per cent. to offset a grant reduction of one per cent; believes that the Labour Government have made the bad situation they inherited from the Conservative Government even worse by their excessive reliance on ring-fencing, passporting and centrally-imposed targets and regulations; and therefore calls on the Government's Balance of Funding Review to make far-reaching proposals for reform when it reports shortly, including the introduction of a local income tax to replace council tax, the return of business rates to local authorities, reformed in line with land values, and a radical reduction in central government interference(Mr Edward Davey); An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word House' to the end of the Question and add the words welcomes the Government support for local government with its 30 per cent. real terms increase in grant since 1997; notes that the average increase in council tax in 200405 is the lowest for nine years; supports the Government's proposals to take action against a number of authorities which have set excessive budgets and council tax increases in 200405; and looks forward to the report of the Balance of Funding Review of how local government in England is funded which is due in summer 2004', instead thereof.(Mr Nick Raynsford.) And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question; Mr Andrew Stunell rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put. And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:It was agreed to. And the Question being accordingly put; The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Bob Russell, Mr Roger Williams: 48. Tellers for the Noes, Paul Clark, Charlotte Atkins: 437. So the Question was negatived. And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Charlotte Atkins, Paul Clark: 296. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Hugo Swire, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 181. So the Question was agreed to. The Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to. Resolved, That this House welcomes the Government support for local government with its 30 per cent. real terms increase in grant since 1997; notes that the average increase in council tax in 200405 is the lowest for nine years; supports the Government's proposals to take action against a number of authorities which have set excessive budgets and council tax increases in 200405; and looks forward to the report of the Balance of Funding Review of how local government in England is funded which is due in summer 2004.
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And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 11 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Other Papers:
(1) H. M. Customs and Excise; and (2) Inland Revenue [by Command] [Cm. 6224 and 6225] [Mr Paul Boateng].
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(2) Twenty-sixth Report from the Committee [Difficult Forms: How government departments interact with citizens]; to be printed, together with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 255]; (3) Twenty-seventh Report from the Committee [Identifying and tracking livestock in England]; to be printed, together with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 326]; (4) Twenty-eighth Report from the Committee [Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency: Trust Statement Report 200203]; to be printed, together with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 336]; and (5) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Drug Treatment and Testing order: early lessons]; to be printed [No. 609-i] [Mr Edward Leigh]. [No. 88.] Tuesday 18th May 2004. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
University of Manchester Bill [Lords],The Lords have passed a Bill to transfer to The University of Manchester all rights, properties, assets and obligations of The Victoria University of Manchester and University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology and to dissolve those bodies; to enact provisions with regard to The University of Manchester; and for other purposes, to which they desire the concurrence of this House. Page 337 Tuesday 18th May 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top
Bill referred to the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills.
4. Proceedings on consideration shall be taken in the order shown in the first column of the following Table. In that column, any reference to new Clauses or Amendments relating to Part 1, 3, 4 or 5 does not include new Clauses or Amendments relating to any arrangements for financial assistance for members where pension schemes are wound up. 5. The proceedings shown in the first column of the Table shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the time specified in the second column.
5A. In the Table allotted day' means a day on which the Bill is put down on the main business as first Government Order of the Day. Page 338 Tuesday 18th May 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top 5B. Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the moment of interruption on the third allotted day(Malcolm Wicks); The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Bridget Prentice, Mr Vernon Coaker: 260. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Alan Reid, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 154. So the Question was agreed to.
A Clause (NC24) (Early leavers: cash transfer sums and contribution refunds)(Malcolm Wicks)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC25) (Categories of pension scheme)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC26) (UK-based occupational pension scheme to be trust with effective rules)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC27) (Non-EC occupational pension scheme to be trust with UK-resident trustee)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC28) (Representative of non-EC occupational pension scheme to be treated as trustee)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC29) (Activities of occupational pension schemes)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC30) (Payment of surplus to employer)(Malcolm Wicks)brought up and read the first time. Question put, That the Clause be read a second time. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Derek Twigg, Charlotte Atkins: 317. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Alan Reid: 48. Clause added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC31) (Payments of surplus to employer: transitional power to amend scheme)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC18) (Power to make regulations governing investment by trustees of occupational pension schemes)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC19) (Borrowing by trustees of occupational pension schemes)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC5) (Occupational pension scheme receiving contributions from European employer)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC6) (General authorisation to accept contributions from European employers)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC7) (Approval in relation to particular European employer)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC8) (Notification of legal requirements of host member State outside United Kingdom)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC9) (Duty of trustees or managers to act consistently with law of host member State)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC10) (Functions of Regulator in relation to institutions administered in other member States)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Page 339 Tuesday 18th May 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top Another Clause (NC11) (Interpretation of Part)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC12) (Restoration orders where transactions at an undervalue)(Malcolm Wicks)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC13) (Restoration orders: supplementary)(Mr John Heppell)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC14) (Content and effect of a restoration order)(Mr John Heppell)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC15) (Contribution notice where failure to comply with restoration order)(Mr John Heppell)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC16) (Content and effect of a section [Contribution notice where failure to comply with restoration order] contribution notice)(Mr John Heppell)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC17) (Debt due from the employer in the case of multi-employer schemes)(Mr John Heppell)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Amendment (No. 1) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 11, to leave out from the word the' to the end of line 12 and insert the words Chairman and approved by the Secretary of State.', instead thereof.(Mr George Osborne.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 181) proposed to the Bill, in page 2, line 25, to leave out from the word Act' to the word and' in line 26.(Mr Harry Barnes.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Amendments (Nos. 62 to 79, 213 to 215, 80 to 88, 59, 89 to 91, 60 and 92 to 96) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 205) proposed to the Bill, in page 137, line 28, after the word on', to insert the word material'.(Mr George Osborne.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 46) proposed to the Bill, in page 144, line 40, after the word employers', to insert the words and annuity providers'.(Vera Baird.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Clause (NC33) (Annual meeting)(Mr George Osborne)brought up and read the first time. Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:Clause, by leave, withdrawn. Another Clause (NC35) (Auditors' right to information)(Steve Webb)brought up and read the first time. Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:Clause, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 15) proposed to the Bill, in page 145, line 31, after the second word trustees', to insert the words and that not less than one third of this number shall be nominated by a recognised pensioners' association and in the case of a closed fund, the majority shall be member nominated trustees'.(Mr George Osborne.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 123) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 53) proposed to the Bill, in page 152, to leave out lines 43 to 46 and insert the words is certified by the actuary to be broadly comparable to the occupational pension scheme referred to in section 228(1)(c).', instead thereof.(John Robertson.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Page 340 Tuesday 18th May 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top Another Amendment (No. 51) proposed to the Bill, in page 153, line 44, at the end, to insert the words (3A) Where an employer has failed to comply with the requirements of this section, a complaint may be presented to an employment tribunal on that ground (a) in the case of failure relating to representatives of a trade union, by the trade union, (b) in any other case, by any of his employees who are affected employees. (3B) Where the tribunal finds a complaint under subsection (3A) above well-founded it shall make a declaration to that effect and may order the employer to pay appropriate compensation to such descriptions of affected employees as may be specified in the award. (3C) In this section (a) appropriate compensation means such sum not exceeding thirteen weeks' pay for the employee in question as the tribunal considers just and equitable having regard to the seriousness of the failure of the employer to comply with his duty. (b) affected employee means an employee who is a member of the scheme or who would have been eligible to become a member if a prescribed decision within the meaning of subsection (1) had not taken effect. (3D) Chapter 2 of Part 14 of the Employment Rights Act 1996 shall apply for calculating the amount of a week's pay for any employee for the purposes of subsection (3C) above.'(John Robertson.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made. And it being Seven o'clock, the Deputy Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair, pursuant to Order [this day]:It was negatived. The Deputy Speaker then proceeded to put the Question on the remaining Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to be disposed of at that hour. Other Amendments (Nos. 124 to 126) made to the Bill. It being after Seven o'clock, further proceedings on the Bill stood adjourned. Bill to be further considered to-morrow.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-three minutes past Seven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 7.23 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) European Parliamentary Elections (Common Electoral Principles) Regulations 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 1374), dated 17th May 2004 [by Act] with an Explanatory Memorandum thereon [by Command] [Mr Christopher Leslie].
Other Papers:
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(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Royal Mail Renewal]; to be printed [No. 612-i and -ii] [Mr Martin O'Neill].
[No. 88; WH, No. 54] Tuesday 18th May 2004. The House sitting in Westminster Hall The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 4.41 p.m. Page 342 Tuesday 18th May 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top [No. 89.] Wednesday 19th May 2004. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered on Friday 16th July; and to be printed [Bill 113]. Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 617].
Another Clause (NC34) (Financial assistance scheme for members of certain pension schemes)(Malcolm Wicks)brought up, and read the first and second time. It being Five o'clock, the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [yesterday] put the Question on an Amendment selected by the Speaker for separate Division. Amendment (c) proposed to the proposed Clause, in line 73, at the end, to insert the words ( ) Assistance from the financial assistance scheme shall be at least sufficient to provide total benefits to qualifying members as they would have received had their scheme fallen within the scope of the Pension Protection Fund.'.(Steve Webb.) Question put, That the Amendment to the proposed Clause be made. The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Heath, Sue Doughty: 203. Tellers for the Noes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Gillian Merron: 339. Clause added to the Bill. The Deputy Speaker then put the Question on the remaining Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to be disposed of at that hour. Other Amendments (Nos. 216 to 218) made to the Bill. Another Clause (NC20) (Reviewable ill health pensions)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC21) (Effect of a review)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC22) (Interpretation of sections [Reviewable ill health pensions] and [Effect of a review])(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Clause (NC23) (Referral of questions of law)(Mr Chris Pond)brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 25) proposed to the Bill, in page 67, line 32, at the end, to insert the words (4A) Any person appointed as an ordinary member shall have knowledge and understanding of (a) the law relating to pensions and trusts, Page 343 Wednesday 19th May 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top (b) the principles relating to (i) the funding of occupational pension schemes, and (ii) investment of the assets of such schemes, and (c) such other matters as may be prescribed'.(Mr Nigel Waterson.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Amendments (Nos. 97 to 100) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 101) proposed to the Bill, in page 84, line 7, to leave out the words for that period'.(Malcolm Wicks.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made. And it being Seven o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned. Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-nine minutes to Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 7.31 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
Papers subject to Special Parliamentary Procedure:
Other Papers:
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(2) Paper, entitled Report of the Quinquennial Review of the Social Security Advisory Committee: Response and Final Report [by Command] [Cm. 6190 and 6189] [Mr Secretary Smith]. APPENDIX II Standing Committees
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee D; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Peter Atkinson, Miss Anne Begg, Mr Paul Goodman, Mr Ivan Henderson, Paul Holmes, Mrs Joan Humble, Mr Andrew Love, Mr John MacDougall, Margaret Moran, Mr George Osborne, Mr Frank Roy, Mr David Tredinnick, Mr Neil Turner, Claire Ward, Steve Webb and Malcolm Wicks.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Harold Best, Mr Paul Burstow, Mr James Clappison, Paul Farrelly, Mr Mark Francois, Mr Mike Hall, Dr Evan Harris, Mr Dai Havard, Mr George Howarth, Mr Robert Jackson, Miss Melanie Johnson, Mr David Lepper, Dr Andrew Murrison, Mrs Barbara Roche, Joan Ryan and Rachel Squire.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Order to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty Members to serve on the Committee: Ms Candy Atherton, Richard Burden, Mr Alistair Carmichael, Mr Vernon Coaker, Dr Brian Iddon, Mr Piara S. Khabra, Mr Terry Lewis, Mr Eddie McGrady, Ann McKechin, Linda Perham, Mr Andrew Robathan, Iris Robinson, Angela Smith, The Reverend Martin Smyth, Mr Desmond Swayne, Mr Hugo Swire, Mark Tami, Gareth Thomas, Mr Paul Truswell and Mr Andrew Turner.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the Order to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Peter Atkinson, Mr John Battle, Mr Bill Etherington, Mr Michael Fallon, Mr Mark Fisher, Jim Fitzpatrick, Mr Adrian Flook, John Healey, Mr Nigel Jones, Mr Paul Keetch, Mr Alan Milburn, Mr Mark Prisk, James Purnell, Mr Martin Salter, Mr Brian Sedgemore and Mr Marsha Singh.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Guidance to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Richard Caborn, Mr Ben Chapman, Mr Tom Clarke, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Clive Efford, Mr Don Foster, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr Mark Lazarowicz, Ian Lucas, Mr Andrew Mackay, Mr John Maples, Mr David Marshall, Mr Malcolm Moss, Mr Adrian Sanders, Phil Sawford and Clare Short.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and Page 345 Wednesday 19th May 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Tony Baldry, Mr Paul Burstow, Sir Sydney Chapman, Mr Jim Cousins, Mr Mark Francois, Alan Howarth, Mr John Hutton, Siobhain McDonagh, John McDonnell, Mr Khalid Mahmood, Dr Andrew Murrison, Sandra Osborne, Joan Ryan, Sarah Teather, Claire Ward and Mr Robert N. Wareing.
(1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Roy Beggs, Ms Karen Buck, Mr Vernon Coaker, Mr Robin Cook, Mr David Drew, Mr Edward Garnier, Mr Tom Harris, Mr Doug Henderson, Alan Keen, Lembit Opik, Mr John Redwood, Mr Mohammad Sarwar, Mr John Spellar, Mr Desmond Swayne, Mr Hugo Swire and Mr Bill Tynan. APPENDIX III Reports from Select Committees
(2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Sub-Committee of the Committee [Social Housing Provision in Northern Ireland; Future Post-Primary Education arrangements in Northern Ireland]; to be printed [Nos. 493-v and 616-i] [Mr Tony Clarke].
(2) Third Special Report from the Committee [Sessional Orders and Resolutions: Government Response to the Committee's Third Report, Session 200203], to be printed [No. 613]; and (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Programming of Legislation]; to be printed [No. 325-vi] [Sir Nicholas Winterton].
Page 346 Wednesday 19th May 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top [No. 89; WH, No. 55] Wednesday 19th May 2004. The House sitting in Westminster Hall The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.
And the sitting having continued for two and a half hours after Two o'clock, it was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 4.30 p.m. [No. 90.] Thursday 20th May 2004. The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock. PRAYERS.
Bill to be read the third time.
Civil Service (No. 2) Bill [Lords],The Lords have passed a Bill to make provision relating to the appointment and conduct of, and general duties relating to, civil servants and special advisers; to make provision for and in connection with the removal of general restrictions as to nationality which apply to persons employed or holding office in any civil capacity under the Crown; and for connected purposes, to which they desire the concurrence of this House.
Bill to be read a second time on Friday 18th June.
Which Amendment was, in page 84, line 7, to leave out the words for that period'; Question again proposed, That the Amendment be made. Question put and agreed to. Other Amendments (Nos. 102 to 105) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 219) proposed to the Bill, in page 90, to leave out lines 14 to 16 and insert the words (b) audited accounts covering the period from the date of the latest statutory annual accounts of the scheme to a date no later than three months prior to the day the application is made.', instead thereof.(Steve Webb.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be madeAmendment, by leave, withdrawn. Other Amendments (Nos. 106 to 119) made to the Bill. Another Amendment (No. 33) proposed to the Bill, in page 105, line 5, after the word regulations', to insert the words , which shall be no earlier than the day on which the basis for calculating the risk-based levy in the first financial year after the initial period has been published.'.(Mr Nigel Waterson.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be madeAmendment, by leave, withdrawn. Another Amendment (No. 120) proposed to the Bill, in page 110, line 27, after the word not', to insert the words a prescribed scheme or a scheme'.(Mr Chris Pond.) Question proposed, That the Amendment be made. And it being Three o'clock, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Order [18th May]:It was agreed to. Page 347 Thursday 20th May 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top The Deputy Speaker then put the Question on the remaining Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to be disposed of at that hour. Other Amendments (Nos. 121 and 122, 127 to 133, 61, 134 to 167, 175 to 178, 168 to 173, 179, 180 and 174) made to the Bill. The Bill was read the third time, and passed.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-nine minutes past Six o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow. [Adjourned at 6.29 p.m. APPENDIX I Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(1) Employment and Occupation, and (2) Trade Organisations and Qualifications Bodies [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].
Other Papers:
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(1) The Speaker has appointed Mr Peter Pike and Derek Conway Chairmen of Standing Committee D in respect of the Bill; and (2) The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr George Osborne from Standing Committee D (in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr Nigel Waterson.
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[No. 90; WH, No. 56] Thursday 20th May 2004. The House sitting in Westminster Hall The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 25th May. [Adjourned at 5.29 p.m. [No. 91.] Friday 21st May 2004. The House met at half-past Nine o'clock.
PRAYERS.
The Bill was read the third time, and passed.
The Bill was read the third time, and passed.
And a Motion being made, and the Question being put, That the Bill be now read a second time; Page 349 Friday 21st May 2004 2003-2004 Volume 260 Back to top The House divided. Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Ruffley, Mr Eric Forth: 10. Tellers for the Noes, Bridget Prentice, Gillian Merron: 2. And it appearing on the report of the Division that fewer than forty Members had taken part in the Division, the Deputy Speaker declared that the Question was not decided, and the business under consideration stood over until the next sitting of the House.
And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time; And it being half-past Two o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned. Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Friday 16th July.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Friday 16th July.
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Friday 15th October.
Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Friday 18th June.
And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till Three o'clock, adjourned till Monday 24th May. [Adjourned at 3 p.m. APPENDIX Papers presented or laid upon the Table: Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
(2) Fines Collection (Amendment) Regulations 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 1407), dated 20th May 2004 [by Act], with Explanatory Memoranda thereon [by Command] [Mr Christopher Leslie].
Other Papers:
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