Select Committee on Constitutional Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 200 - 203)

TUESDAY 18 NOVEMBER 2003

RT HON LADY JUSTICE HALE DBE

  Q200  Ross Cranston: Does that mean that this has to be written into the legislation because otherwise the Judicial Appointments Commission might go off and do whatever?

  Lady Justice Hale: It seems to me unlikely that it would, but I can see the merits of putting certain aspirations into the remit of the Commission. The Judges' Council has quite a good pair of aspirations: maintaining independence and quality but increasing diversity.

  Ross Cranston: The evidence so far from the Scottish Appointments Commission is that the appointments that have been made are in exactly the same mould as in the past.

  Q201  Chairman: I am not sure the report says that.

  Lady Justice Hale: I cannot comment on whether the experience will be repeated here and I do not know enough about the Scottish system, but one of the features of the Scottish system is how small it is. That is not disrespect, but it is very small.

  Q202  Ross Cranston: And there have been very few appointments.

  Lady Justice Hale: We have an enormous system here, that is one of the reasons why the old system will not work because it is so much harder to pick out the right candidates and the best candidates when there are so many possibilities even within the existing pool let alone if it were widened. The other point I would like to try to emphasise is that a Judicial Appointments Commission to my mind should have a very strong element of people who know about how these things are done elsewhere in the recruitment and appointment process.

  Q203  Ross Cranston: You heard my point earlier that this has not necessarily produced different results in other areas.

  Lady Justice Hale: I think it could if there is the commitment to doing it. I think it would be a good push in that direction. Dare I say this, we have not, in fact, had any real danger of political bias in appointments in my adult lifetime in England. There is a risk, it seems to me, of a new system being too much under the control of the existing senior judiciary. If you want diversity you have to have a strong non-judicial element to attack this notion that we all know who the best people are.

  Chairman: On that very clear statement I want to thank you very warmly and look forward to you coming before us on other matters in the future.





 
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