Select Committee on Foreign Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Annex 1

Q1.  The Committee notes your comments on 30 March about the hand-over of sovereignty in Iraq on 30 June and the role of the UN as a means of "leverage", and wishes to receive further details of how the United Kingdom will seek to influence the Iraqi interim government following 1 July. What degree of co-ordination will there be with the US?

  When the CPA comes to an end, we shall meet our objectives in Iraq, including developing and maintaining close relations with the Iraqi interim government, through traditional diplomatic means. We are intending to establish an Embassy in Baghdad, a Consulate-General in Basra, and a very small Consulate in Kirkuk. The missions in Baghdad and Basra will both consist of around 80 staff, including staff from FCO, DFID, MOD, and UKTI, and also the British Council, DFID consultants and trainers for the Iraqi Ministry of Defence and police. This will enable us to maintain close links with the Iraqi Government, as well as providing expert advice to a number of the Iraqi Ministries. The US are also intending to establish an Embassy in Baghdad, and smaller missions elsewhere. We are discussing with the US how best to ensure that we maintain a high level of co-ordination with them after transition.

Q2.  The Committee would like to know what the UK is doing to prevent terrorists from entering Iraq across its porous borders. How far have Iraq's neighbours co-operated in these efforts?

  We are accelerating border security efforts with increased personnel, new technology and tighter procedures. Some $107 million has been allocated to the reconstruction of facilities and a review is underway of the number and location of Border Posts. There are now over 8,000 Iraqi Border Police and the CPA plans to double this number. This will help stop terrorist infiltration. Furthermore as well as Multinational forces there are approximately 131,000 Iraqis involved in security across the country. Iraqi customs and immigration controls were restored on 1 April. The PISCES Immigration IT system has been installed in prioritised border points and training for new customs and immigration staff began on 29 March.

  Senior staff from the Iraqi Department for Border Enforcement, with advice from UK advisors from CPA Baghdad, have held talks with neighbouring countries about border security. The CPA is in the process of tightening control of the Iran-Iraq border, reducing the number of ports of entry. Over the past year we have sought closer contact with Iran on Iraq-related matters. We welcome greater contacts between the Iranian and Iraqi authorities. Though we have seen some improvement in Syria's performance, we still have concerns about the flow of jihadis across the Syria/Iraq border, which we have raised with the Syrians at the highest level. Limiting the freedom of movement of those determined to attack the Coalition and Iraqis should be a priority for Syria—a stable Iraq is in their interests too. We have encouraged meetings of Iraq's neighbours to discuss ways in which they can co-operate over this issue.

Q3.  The Committee wishes to know what is being done to prevent stockpiles of ammunition and weaponry from falling into terrorist hands in Iraq?

  There is an extremely large amount of weapons and ammunition in Iraq. This includes those held by private individuals, organised militias, criminal organisations and stockpiles which were abandoned by Saddam's security forces or others. The CPA recognises that weapons control is necessary in order to ensure a secure environment for the people of Iraq and to promote public order and safety, whilst recognising the ingrained tradition of gun ownership in Iraq. Our aim in the long term is to reform the gun culture in Iraq. For immediate reasons of safety it is the policy of the CPA that no person other than members of the security forces may carry small arms in public. A process of integration and disbanding of militias is underway and under the terms of the Transitional Administrative Law all militias will be illegal from 1 July 2004.

  The Multinational Force is utilising all means at its disposal to prevent abandoned munitions being used by those opposed to democracy in Iraq. This is an enormous task. In the UK area of operations alone there are well over one thousand sites of varying size which contain arms of some kind. When a new site is discovered its contents are taken to one of several consolidated sites which are guarded by UK forces. These weapons are issued to the Iraqi police or armed forces where appropriate or otherwise destroyed. It will inevitably take some time before all of the minor sites are cleared and would in any case not solve the problem of the ready availability of weapons in Iraq. Only by addressing wider cultural issues, increasing the capability of Iraqi security forces and improving the economic and political situation will the role of weapons in Iraqi society be reduced.

Q4.  The committee notes your comments on 30 March about efforts to train the Iraqi police and wishes to know the number of Iraqi Police who have completed their training, are currently in training, and are expected to be trained The committee would also like to receive details of the wastage rate of trainees.

  According to statistics provided by the Coalition Police Assistance Training Team, there are 78,224 Iraqi Police Officers on duty. In total, 14,746 officers have completed police training to date. This figure comprises 12,422 who have completed refresher training for serving officers through the Transitional Integration Programme (TIP), and 2,324 students who have completed the eight week new recruit training. There are a further 2,003 students currently attending TIP training, and 1,837 on new recruit training, totalling 3,840 students. It is anticipated that an additional 50,000 will be trained. Figures for the wastage rate of trainees are not centrally collated.

Q5.  The Committee notes your comments on 30 March about the Iraq Special Tribunal and wishes to know more about the United Kingdom's involvement in it, with particular reference to the death penalty.

  On 10 December the Governing Council announced the establishment of an Iraq Special Tribunal (IST) to prosecute senior members of the former regime suspected of the worst crimes against humanity. All cases will be tried by Iraqi judges, which is only right given that most of the crimes were committed against the Iraqi people, although the Statute includes provision for expert international involvement. The Rules of Procedure and Elements of Crime are currently being drafted. There is now a small pre-investigation team in Baghdad working on the development of infrastructure for investigations (rather than gathering information). They include an evidence custodian from the UK. The US is now considering sending out a sizeable team of investigators that will include non-US nationals.

  The UK has seconded a total of 10 officials to the CPA Office of Human Rights and Transitional Justice (OHRTJ) including the Head of the Office of Human Rights. There are currently eight in Iraq. This is an area where the UK has made a significant contribution. Prior to his departure, the former UK Head of the Investigations Unit within the Office of Transitional Justice developed the investigations strategy for the IST and trained Iraqi judges for the Tribunal. He is now assisting HMG and the US with identifying suitable qualified investigators. The former UK legal adviser to the Investigations Unit supported the drafting of the Statute and Rules of Procedure for the IST. He is now assisting with the redrafting of the Rules of Procedure and the drafting of Elements of Crime. The UK has a further six staff in the Office of Human Rights who are establishing systems for storing and analysing documentation retrieved from the former regime and co-ordinating the forensic exhumation process. In collaboration with the relevant ministries, they are developing training programmes to build Iraqi capacity to take testimonies and witness statements and to analyse regime documentation.

  Following the promulgation of the Statute for the Special Tribunal on 10 December 2003, when it became clear that the Tribunal may pass death sentences at an undetermined future date, we decided to review our assistance to the process. Following Ministerial discussion we decided that we could in principle provide assistance in a number of keys areas in line with our obligations under the European Convention on Human Rights. Our assistance in these areas will of course depend on available resources, but we would like to provide at least some assistance in some of the following areas:

    —  Forensic expertise

    —  Judicial training

    —  Judicial advisers

    —  Public education and outreach

    —  Victim and witness counselling

    —  Witness protection

    —  International observers

  We are also encouraging other EU partners to consider favourably requests for assistance from the Iraqis.

Q6.  The Committee notes your comments on 30 March about Iraqi detainees and wished to know whether it is anticipated that any detainees will remain in the custody of Coalition forces on 30 June.

  The UK and US are responsible for security internees and prisoners of war. The UK and US also arrest those suspected of criminal activity, known as criminal detainees, before handing them over to the Iraqi police. The case of each security internee is reviewed regularly in order to determine whether they continue to pose an imperative threat to security. The right of the UK and US and to hold detainees stems from our position as Occupying Powers. We take very seriously our legal obligations as Occupying Powers for the correct treatment of detainees and have investigated allegations of maltreatment, taking disciplinary action in those cases where allegations have been substantiated. The treatment of detainees is reviewed by the ICRC, who make regular visits to all coalition detention facilities. Under the terms of the Transitional Administrative Law the US and UK will no longer be Occupying Powers from 30 June. If on 30 June we are detaining people who still pose a threat to the multinational force, including UK forces, we will want to make sure that they continue to be detained and are unable to realise that threat. Until the political arrangements for the transition of power are finalised, we are not able to say exactly how this will be done.

Q7.  The Committee would like to know whether the United Kingdom believes that Israel's assassination of Hamas leader Ahmed Yassin has hindered positive moves in the Arab world towards peace.

  The UK believes that the assassinations of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and Abdul Aziz al-Rantissi have had a negative impact. They have intensified anger and may make progress more difficult. You will have seen my statements on 22 March and 17 April following the killings. As I said, we understand Israel's need to defend itself. But it must act in accordance with international law. Assassinations are illegal, unjustified and counter-productive. We have repeatedly called for an end to the use of force by both sides. Violence achieves nothing. Only the resumption of political negotiations can provide a path to a permanent settlement that will bring peace to both peoples.

Q8.  The Committee would like to know if the United Kingdom believes that a more active US role at this stage could achieve progress on the Israel-Palestine conflict.

  The US has played an important and high profile role in the roadmap process, and its role remains critical. We welcome this. At the same time we share the US view that the Quartet must lead the international effort to ensure Israel's withdrawal from Gaza is a success. We expect Quartet Foreign Ministers will meet in May.

Q9.  The Committee wishes to know if the UK would regard a complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza as contributing to a peaceful settlement with the Palestinians.

  Prime Minister Sharon's proposals to withdraw all Gaza settlements and some in the West Bank, in line with their roadmap commitments, are to be welcomed. We have encouraged Israel to make withdrawal from Gaza as full as possible and will continue to do so. Currently it appears that Prime Minister Sharon is not planning to withdraw from the Gaza/Egypt border. We hope the plan will develop further to include this. We will discuss with Israel, the Palestinian Authority and Egypt ways the international community can help achieve this.

Q10.  The Committee would like to know what the UK is doing to allay concerns, both among Palestinians and in neighbouring countries, that Israel's unilateral withdrawal from areas of occupied territories will lead to a de facto annexation of Palestinian land.

  The Prime Minister has made clear that all final status issues, including borders and refugees, must be agreed in negotiations between the two parties. He also reiterated the need to get back to the roadmap, which offers the best route to the vision of two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace. We have reiterated this with our EU partners and hope that the forthcoming Quartet meeting will do the same.

Q11.  The Committee wishes to know if the Palestinian Authority is taking steps to fight terrorism, and if it is, what are they?

  The UK has encouraged Palestinian action in areas where they could deliver a visible improvement in the security situation. This is in line with Palestinian commitments on security under the roadmap. We have offered practical help where the Palestinian Authority requests it. We are beginning to see encouraging signs, but there is some way to go before we can conclude that the Palestinian Authority is exerting 100% effort on security.

Q12.  The Committee wishes to know what the United Kingdom is doing to achieve reform in the Arab world? What progress has been made and what progress is expected this year?

  The FCO last year established a new team in London and in the region dedicated to furthering reform in the Arab world. It also established a £1.5 million Engaging the Islamic World programme to support this policy by assisting indigenous-led change and modernisation in the areas of governance, rule of law and issues surrounding women. The programme fund was increased to £3 million this financial year and extended to Islamic countries beyond the Arab world. The British Government is also using its influence in multilateral organisations to support regional reform. We expect agreement at the G8 Summit in Sea Island to a menu of activity that assists reform in the region. We are contributing to the development of an EU Strategic Partnership for the Mediterranean and the Middle East, to be considered at the June European Council. This international engagement supports recent regional demands for change and modernisation, such as the Sana'a and Alexandria inter-governmental and nongovernmental declarations earlier this year.

Q13.  The Committee would like to know if the United Kingdom believes that there is a real understanding among Arab governments of the need for both political and economic reform.

  All Arab governments have spoken of the importance of economic reform and most of the need for accompanying political change. The Gulf Co-operation Council and the Arab League have discussed proposals for regional reform initiatives. The British Government continues to encourage governments in the region to implement broad-based reform programmes, with international assistance as necessary, that address the challenges facing the region, as identified by Arab authors in two recent UNDP Arab Human Development reports.

Q14.  The Committee would like to know if the United Kingdom is satisfied with the measures Pakistan has taken to prevent further proliferation and if full co-operation has been obtained in this field.

  The UK, together with other countries, remains in contact with the Government of Pakistan over the action it is taking to ensure there is no further proliferation of nuclear technology. In particular, we are calling on Pakistan to introduce effective export controls including an end-use control. We are ready to work with Pakistan to develop effective legislation and implementation mechanisms.

  We have also offered assistance with safety and physical security measures for Pakistan's nuclear facilities as foreseen in the Bradshaw Statement of 15 March 2002.

  In addition to our contacts with Pakistan we have put proposals to India to develop cooperation on export controls and nuclear safety, building on India's existing good record of controlling the export of sensitive technology.

Q15.  The Committee wishes to know what kind of international restraints the United Kingdom believes should be put in place to prevent further proliferation.

  There is no "one-size-fits-all" policy we can apply to counter the threat posed by the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (WMD). All proliferators pose a challenge to the international community, but our response must be tailored to the circumstances of each one.

  In pursuing our goal of the elimination of WMD, the Government uses the tools that it judges will be most effective in each case. There are a number of tools at our disposal, including:

    —  Bilateral and multilateral diplomacy. For example, UK/US work with Libya; and negotiations in New York to agree a UN Security Council resolution on non-proliferation (the first ever such resolution).

    —  International treaties and regimes (eg Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention, Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Chemical Weapons Convention, and their associated compliance and inspection regimes) which help establish international norms that deter and raise the political cost of pursuing WMD.

    —  Inspection regimes coupled to the international treaties (eg IAEA, OPCW) which can also help raise the economic cost of proliferation by forcing proliferators to act covertly.

    —  Ad hoc inspection regimes established under UN mandate, such as UNSCOM/UNMOVIC, and the UN Secretary General's CBW alleged use investigations system.

    —  Effective export controls drawing on common multilateral standards (such as Nuclear Suppliers Group, Missile Technology Control Regime).

    —  Preventing the transfer of sensitive intellectual property.

    —  Co-operative threat reduction programmes (eg decommissioning WMD facilities, alternative employment for former WMD scientists), supported bilaterally and multilaterally (EU, G8).

    —  Efforts to prevent trafficking in WMD, and encouraging others to do likewise (eg through the Proliferation Security Initiative).

    —  Political and economic pressure (eg lobbying, arms embargoes, sanctions) either bilaterally or-preferably-multilaterally. At UK prompting, in December the EU agreed a strategy to prevent WMD proliferation; as part of this, the EU has agreed to include a model non-proliferation clause in all mixed agreements with third countries.

    —  Efforts to address the regional and global security concerns which often lie behind proliferation.

  We continue to assess and reassess this framework, to see if we can apply these tools more effectively, or whether additional tools are required. The Foreign Secretary's statement to Parliament of 25 February outlined some further measures which we are actively exploring.

Q16.  The Committee wishes to know whether the United Kingdom believes that Iran's declaration to the IAEA was complete? Is Iran continuing to conduct Uranium enrichment?

  The Government continues to work with Iran and with the IAEA to ensure Iran makes a full declaration covering the full scope of its nuclear and nuclear-related activities as required under the Additional Protocol. Iran has undertaken to make this declaration by mid-May.

  Iran has undertaken voluntarily to suspend all enrichment-related and reprocessing activities in Iran. The IAEA has reported that Iran has not introduced further feed material into the centrifuges installed at the Natanz Pilot Feuel Enrichment Plant (PFEP), and has withdrawn the feed material already introduced. The PFEP is the only facility where Iran has declared the introduction of Uranium Hexafluoride feed material. We continue to work closely with the IAEA to monitor ongoing Iranian activity.

  The UK, France and Germany issued a joint media statement in response to Iran's announcement it intended to commence operation of parts of its Uranium Conversion Facility at Esfahan. We believe that this action will not contribute to Iran's efforts to rebuild international confidence in its nuclear intentions.





 
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