Select Committee on Northern Ireland Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 20-23)

MR DAVID WOODS AND MR LESLIE ASHE

19 MAY 2004

  Q20 Mr Pound: Thank you very much indeed. The Report mentions the work being undertaken by the Working Group on 14-19 Reform, this is particularly to do with qualifications. Does the Department envisage a fundamental reform in the qualifications framework?

  Mr Woods: I will answer that because, for my sins, I am also responsible for the curriculum.

  Q21 Mr Pound: Your sins must have been great!

  Mr Woods: So I am discovering, yes. We are certainly watching closely what is emerging from the Tomlinson Review and certainly what has emerged so far in terms of the breadth and choice of provision and the mix between vocational and academic and so on seems to be very much in tune with the line which the Costello Report was advocating. The Tomlinson Report applies only to England. Strictly speaking, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are not directly within its terms of reference. In the Northern Ireland context we obviously will have to look at what the ultimate recommendations are from Tomlinson if only to ensure that whatever is on offer in Northern Ireland schools has common currency for those of our young people who may wish to study or come to work in GB. Our colleagues in the Department of Employment and Learning have recently published a review of further education and we see the need to bring the strands of both of those reviews together with the aim of having a much more coherent 14-19 strategy straddling both the school and FE sectors so that all young people in that age range have access to a coherent suite of provision that meets their needs.

  Q22 Mr Pound: So it could actually include a reassessment of GCSEs and A'levels?

  Mr Woods: Nothing is impossible. It is not actively on our agenda at this stage if only because we have lots of other things on our agenda. We will wait to see what comes out of the Tomlinson Report and then, of course, the Government will have to reach its own view as to whether to proceed with those recommendations and within what timescale and we will then have to judge our own position accordingly.

  Q23 Mr Pound: A fair point, well made. May I thank you very much indeed for the expertise and the way in which you have been so open with us this afternoon.

  Mr Woods: Thank you, Mr Pound.





 
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