Select Committee on Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witness (Questions 540-547)

3 FEBRUARY 2004

MR FRANK MAGUIRE

  Q540 Mr Sanders: Has your school developed a response to those policies?

  Mr Maguire: Yes, the school has. We adopted those policies as a governing body.

  Q541 Chris Mole: On occasions you will get difficulties between various groups of pupils within different religious or ethnic backgrounds. What policies and strategies does the school have to deal with potential flare-ups or disruptive disagreements?

  Mr Maguire: Schools such as mine do not have flare-ups and problems relating to ethnic, or social or cultural backgrounds, they just have flare-ups relating to football, or who is doing this and who is doing that, or you have red hair or you are overweight, normal situations which happen in primary schools. In the make-up of the school where I am head teacher, there are no flare-ups relating to social, cultural or whatever backgrounds.

  Q542 Chairman: Do football flare-ups not relate to the traditions of Catholic and Protestant teams?

  Mr Maguire: My school is situated in Liverpool and not Glasgow, so we do not really have that, although there was a tradition some years ago between the two teams.

  Q543 Chairman: You have been describing to us the way in which the school manages to cope with children from the two Christian faiths. What do you do about trying to make sure that your children have an understanding of some of the youngsters from other parts of Liverpool who comes from different religious traditions?

  Mr Maguire: As I was saying earlier, part of our RE syllabus and part of our personal and social health education is to engage with other faith communities. People will come in to talk to the children about Islam or Judaism and we visit mosques, we visit synagogues and so on. That is the strategy which we employ.

  Q544 Chairman: In some places they have been twinning schools to try to make that work more effectively. Do you see any scope for twinning schools so that you have pupils going from one school to another school to do a joint activity?

  Mr Maguire: I have not heard of this. It sounds very interesting.

  Q545 Chairman: The difficulty is that if some adult comes in and talks to youngsters, they tend to remember the strange and the weird rather than understanding the common ground that youngsters have.

  Mr Maguire: You are quite right actually, but I certainly hope they do not think the adults are strange and weird. I think they find them extremely enjoyable and interesting. To suggest visiting other schools is an excellent idea.

  Q546 Chairman: Do you think race relations in Liverpool are improving?

  Mr Maguire: The answer to that is that I do not know. I would hope so, but until we can have people growing together from an early age and mixing together as friends rather than as people from different race backgrounds and allow that to move through to an adult age, I do not think we will have great improvement. We must start at a very early age with children whose friendship dominates the relationship rather than ethnic background.

  Q547 Chairman: You describe the fairly large housing estate which you serve. Is there any discrimination within that estate for people moving into it?

  Mr Maguire: I do not see any.

  Chairman: On that note, may I thank you very much for your evidence.





 
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