Select Committee on Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Minutes of Evidence


ODPM Committee visit to Appleby Horse Fair, 7 June 2004

INTERVIEW WITH JIMMY COLTMAN

  DAVID SMITH:  This is Jimmy Coltman, he has a site in Doncaster.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  So, how big a site is it?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  It's only for 12 caravans.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  And are they—are they all people you know?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  Yes, yeah, from around the area, you know, yeah.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  All right. And was it difficult to get the site?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  Yes, very. Very.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  So, how long did it take?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  A long time. Years.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  Right, so what happened? You moved on to the site and then tried to get permission or you actually—

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  No, I bought the land off my brother-in-law.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  Right.

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  Pulled a caravan on it and the council started from then.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  All right, so pulled a caravan on, yeah, and they tried to get you moved off the site?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  Yeah.

  BILL O'BRIEN:  Right. So, what procedure did you follow?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  No, I went through the council sending letters and trying the best to do as I could.

  BILL O'BRIEN:  Well, was it raised in council or did anyone defend you?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  No, because the—you're putting me in questions I can't really answer here now because, you know, I mean, it was—I had a battle ever since I started.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  And so what have you got there now? You've got—

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  Well, I've got a bungalow now on the same site. But to get planning permission for the bungalow took me a battle. Do you understand what I'm saying? What I was battling for other people walked in and got without the battle.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  Right. Gypsy people?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  Yes. Oh, yes. Gypsy people, yeah.

  CLIVE BETTS:  And you put toilet blocks in and things like that?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  One toilet. It's a shared—it's just a shared toilet because we're only on cesspool, you know. It's a toilet block of four. Four toilets and a shower.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  Now, is that one of the arguments the council used, the lack of services?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  No, they just didn't want us. They just didn't want us because the simple reason is this. They gave me—the only excuse they could give was the access wasn't sufficient.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  And it wasn't greenbelt or anything like that?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  I think it was greenbelt but greenbelt they could never do nothing with. Where I built the bungalow on, it was backfill land filled with anything, brick rubble. It wasn't—it wasn't even big enough to keep a good little donkey on it. Do you know what I mean? So, the greenbelt shouldn't have really come into the position what I was on with, you know. But I can get—can I get back to this excuse of the road access? They said the road access wasn't big enough or able enough to carry it. But it was big enough to carry more sites—there's three sites popped up after I was finally granted permission.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  Now, is there feeling in the community that there are too many with the four sites?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  Oh, yeah. Well, the thing is now, they've turned into residential sites.

  BILL O'BRIEN:  Static caravans?

  JIMMY COLTMAN:  Yes these static caravans, the sort you get when you go to the seaside. Do you understand my meaning? They put them on the sites. They charge the people X amount of money. My community don't like that, you get all sorts of people, it makes me mad.

  ANDREW BENNETT:  Thanks very much. Nice to have met you.





 
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