Select Committee on Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Thirteenth Report


17  PARTNERSHIP WORKING

226. Several witnesses have told us that agencies are failing to work together to tackle the needs of the Gypsy and Traveller community:

    "We know for a fact that the Police Reform Act 2003 gave certain powers to the police; they do not use them. I believe section 17 of the Crime and Disorder Act suggests that the police and local authorities should combine in such a way as to make sure there is no crime or disorder in a community. The fact is in my local authority they do not join up, there is no joined­up thinking and as a consequence villages suffer."[320]

West Sussex County Council prepared a strategy on Gypsies and Travellers based on the views of interested parties, the strategy noted that:

    "Respondents are critical of the perceived lack of liaison between the authorities concerned (including the police) and their unwillingness to support parish councils and individual landowners, farmers and small businesses in dealing with enforcement problems on private land."[321]

The Association of Chief Police Officers is also critical of the lack of inter-agency co-operation, especially in relation to unauthorised camping. They told us:

    "In terms of managing unauthorised camping what the document [ODPM Guidance on Managing Unauthorised Camping] does not do is address the issue of police and local authorities and indeed other agencies working in silos based on local authority areas. An example might be [that] a group of Travellers moves on to a brown-field site on the outskirts of a particular town. They are tolerated for almost two weeks, despite rising community tensions because of mess and complaints of anti-social behaviour by Travellers, before moving off under threat of use of Section 61 (the powers under Section 62 are rarely used because Travellers invariably move on just before it is invoked). They leave a site which costs £3000 to clear up because of waste, a stripped down car and industrial debris from the wire-stripping process being carried out by the Travellers. The collective response from the police, local authority and the community in general is to breathe a sigh of relief. The local authority clears the site and it is "target hardened" to make it more difficult for Travellers to get on to in future. The same Travellers move into another local authority area and the process begins all over again. No information is shared about the environmental damage, no reparation is sought from the Travellers for the cost of the clear-up and no intelligence is gathered and passed on about the anti-social behaviour of individuals among this group of people." Equally those Travellers leading positive and law abiding lives within that community will be regarded by some as being guilty of similar behaviour."[322]

227. But Pat Weale, Gypsy Services Manager for Worcestershire County Council, argues that some local authorities have forged good working relationships with other agencies such as the police:

    "In Worcestershire we have had a policy towards Travellers since 1994 which includes the police and the district councils but we do act as the main point of contact for all Traveller issues as we run the nine sites and deal with most unauthorised encampments. Many private landowners also access us for information on how to respond to Travellers who move on to their land without permission. We are already sitting there waiting for the calls."[323]

Terry Holland, Gypsy Services Manager of Buckinghamshire County Council agrees:

    "In my own case that does exist in that there is a joint working arrangement between ourselves, the districts and the police but that does not apply necessarily nationally. Every authority has its own working arrangements."[324]

228. Rick Bristow, Chairman of Cottenham Residents Association told us that there is a lack of co-operation between different tiers of the same authority:

    "For the past 18 months I have written to both and the county automatically passes it down to district. If there is any element of something which is quasi criminal the district will automatically involve the police, so with anti­social behaviour, for example, it is a police issue, there is no question about that, but the district council will take absolutely no action whatsoever."[325]

One reason for this may be that within each council, the department responsible for Gypsy and Traveller issues varies. Private sites are usually monitored by planning departments, who frequently have little contact with council Gypsy and Traveller liaison officers or the site managers of local authority facilities. This can mean that a private site planning application is submitted, reviewed and turned down without the input of the authorities own liaison officer. Local authority sites are often managed by the Environmental Health rather than Housing department. Even where an authority has a department which deals with housing, environmental, public heath, safety and social services functions, it will more often be the case that the actual functions are managed completely separately, with Gypsy and Traveller caravans sites being managed by environmental health officers rather than housing officers. Alistair McWhirter, Chief Constable of Suffolk and representative of the Association of Chief Police Officers told us that this situation is not helpful:

    "The difficulty is that all the responsibility for this in the past has fallen between different departments in local authorities - very often the legal department or the environmental health department - but nobody had it written into their job description. Very often if there were Gypsy and Traveller liaison officers appointed by the local authority they did not have a clear line of command back to people in the centre or access to funds to be able to deal with things. Gypsies and Travellers are one of those things which nobody wants to talk about or deal with until there is suddenly a large group of them moving into the area. Suddenly it moves to the top of the list and as soon as they move off it moves back to the bottom of the list again. People need to have plans in place to be able to deal with that. This new guidance is helpful in encouraging that to happen. Its difficulty will be that there will still be places in the country who rarely have Travellers moving in who will not make plans and who will suddenly be faced with a situation where a large group move in, set up camp and they do not have the plans nor the liaisons that need to be in place with the local authority, the police and other agencies in order to make a smooth response to a large group moving onto a common or moving onto a playing field."[326]

229. Hurstpierpoint and Sayers Common Parish Council observed "that there should be more co-operation between all tiers of councils in the event of problems, e.g. to prevent Travellers evicted from a district or parish owned site relocating to a county site and vice-versa".[327] John Treble, Vice-President and Vice-Chair of Somerset Association of Local Councils told us that in his experience, liaison between district and county councils does not come easily:

    "Unfortunately I have lived so long, I have seen all this so many times that I am confused as to whether I am repeating what I heard yesterday or ten years ago, but the notion that there is good liaison automatically between district and county council is not within my experience."[328]

Although some local authorities have made efforts, West Sussex County Council operates an email network to keep Gypsy and Traveller Liaison Officers posted of planned enforcement action. [329]

230. Some witnesses have suggested that Gypsies and Travellers do not pay the charges that members of the settled community pay, they argue that agencies need to ensure Gypsies and Travellers are forced to pay taxes and other charges:

    "Many of the Travellers do not pay their dues to society such as council tax, income tax, VAT on business activities and even items like television licences. This is a situation that needs to be rectified and might discourage some who simply take up the lifestyle to save money on running their business activities. […] A more unified approach is required by all authorities including the Inland Revenue, Customs and Excise, Benefits Agency and other similar authorities to ensure that Travellers are paying the taxes and other dues that are paid by the settled community." [330]

Other witnesses have suggested that Gypsies and Travellers claim benefits that they are not entitled to. However in his report 'Room to Roam', Dr Colm Power highlights a 'nomadic claims working group' which was set up by the then Department for Social Security to develop a regional/national computerised record of benefit claimants including physical appearance to prevent benefit fraud by individuals such as Gypsies and Travellers.[331]

231. ACPO are concerned that current police powers and Government policies focus on moving the "problem" on. They told us:

    "ACPO believes that radical action is needed to break the cycle of environmental damage and anti-social behaviour carried out by a minority of Travellers. Unless something is done like this we will merely continue the same old cycle of moving people on."[332]

In April 2003 ACPO wrote to Tony McNulty MP, then an ODPM Minister and Bob Ainsworth, a Home Office Minister, suggesting the need for a cross-cutting information system "about those who are involved in unauthorised camping and who cause damage to the environment, disrupt the lives of communities through anti-social behaviour or who carry on businesses where no VAT or Income Tax is paid and where often shoddy work is perpetrated upon unsuspecting customers."[333] The aim of the suggested system is to share information between police, local authorities, the Environment Agency, Customs and Excise, Inland Revenue and Trading Standards officers:

    "I think it would be similar to the New Age Traveller monitoring system of the 1980's and 1990's because that was really the model that was adopted then for dealing with unauthorised camping by New Age Travellers at a time when they were going round in very large groups and causing major disruption to the life of individual communities. I would see this working in a similar way but slightly differently. First of all I think there needs to be a national database which is maintained and which can share information with local authorities, with the police, with the Environment Agency and with trading standards and, if it were thought appropriate, also with the Inland Revenue and Customs and Excise. This has to do with two aspects, one is environmental damage caused by people who camp in an unauthorised way and then move on and leave that damage and cause disruption to the life of the community. The second aspect is to do with issues around the avoidance of duty, the avoidance of VAT and industrial processes which are carried out by some Travellers, particularly in the West Midlands area where there is a lot of wire stripping and burning going on on these individual sites. There is a huge amount of turnover in terms of money, little of which seems to attract any form of tax or information and I do think there is a taxation opportunity which has been missed here and I feel - although I have no evidence to support this - that both Customs and Excise and Trading Standards are not as involved as they should be with Gypsies and Travellers."[334]

232. Gypsies and Travellers are concerned that such a system would become a database of all Gypsies and Travellers. ACPO recognises their concerns:

    "ACPO has shared this proposal with some Travellers' groups who are very concerned that such a database would become an index of gypsy Travellers. We appreciate these concerns and feel that if this idea is to be taken further, work would need to be done to ensure that only offenders were entered upon it. Obviously any database would need to be compliant with both Data Protection and Freedom of Information legislation which should offer appropriate protection and opportunity for redress."[335]

It has been suggested that privately some Gypsies and Travellers believe such a system is required in order to tackle the minority of Gypsies and Travellers who give the wider community such a bad name.[336] Chief Constable Alistair McWhirter argues that this is the intention of such a system:

    "The last thing I would want would be for it to be an index of Gypsies and Travellers. That would be wholly wrong and I do not think it should even be an index of those who camp in an unauthorised way - although that is unlawful - because I think that in itself would be one step too far in terms of a draconian approach. What I think it should do is to identify and deal quite properly with the minority of people who give Gypsies and Travellers a bad name and who do use their ability to move round the country to avoid their responsibilities to the local communities. […] I think that the ability to identify individuals who are causing problems, the ability to follow them and serve them with notices or serve them with bills in relation to it and/or indeed to take civil action against them in order to recover debt, would discourage people. What I want to do is to modify their behaviour, not to stop them carrying out their way of life."[337]

He suggested that the information system would be used to set conditions for those Gypsies and Travellers who were known to cause damage or to misbehave:

    "We still have significant numbers every night camping in an unauthorised way and it is about somebody arriving in an area and it being found that when they were on their last site or last site but one, they caused £10,000 worth of damage. I think that as a local authority and as a police force you have a right then to say, "If you come and camp in this area then these are the strict rules that we are going to apply to you or you are not going to be allowed to stop in this area or on this particular site". I know that has the potential for difficulties; I know that it has also the potential for breaching people's human rights and that one would have to manage this in a very effective way which complied with both the Data Protection Act and also allow Travellers to access the data that was being held on them because they are the data subjects after all. This is not criminal intelligence in its broadest way but I feel it would encourage people who are abusing the system and living above the law at the present time to actually take their responsibilities and comply with the law."[338]

233. ACPO told us that local authorities appear to support the scheme, but ACPO has received little feedback from ODPM or the Home Office.[339] In oral evidence there seemed to be some confusion as to whether ODPM officials had met with ACPO representatives to discuss their proposals. Eventually the Minister told us that although ODPM officials had met with ACPO representatives, ODPM would not be responding to them because it was felt to be an issue for the Home Office:

    "I would not want for one moment to deny the receipt of this correspondence. However, my understanding is that this was felt in ODPM to be primarily a matter for the Home Office as indeed, if the Committee reflects about it, would agree. It was actually passed over the Home Office and I am not, alas, in a position to speak for the Home Office. […]. I think our expectation would be that the Home Office would communicate directly with ACPO on this matter. […]. It is a silo issue. Yes, I suppose it is a silo issue but at least we passed it over the Home Office. […]. Officials in OPDM did indeed meet with ACPO as part of the overall review process. […]. I would expect the response to come from the Home Office."[340]

234. We asked the Home Office to comment. In a supplementary note they explained that they "had been carefully considering the need for such a database"[341] but told us that no database should exclusively target members of an ethnic group. However they added that a new national intelligence IT system for the police in England and Wales, 'IMPACT'[342] will enable improved data sharing, intelligence analysis and record keeping between forces, reducing the need for a separate database. The Home Office aim to provide a rolling release of new systems and capabilities over the next two to two and a half years. In the short term the Home Office stress that "the Criminal Records Bureau will have an index of police records so that it can tell which forces hold information on a particular person for vetting purposes."[343]

235. The Government needs to ensure all agencies, including Trading Standards, Inland Revenue/Customs and Excise, and the Environment Agency tackle any criminality within the Gypsy and Traveller community, especially relating to waste crimes, tax - including VAT - and benefit fraud. The proposed police national intelligence system. 'IMPACT' will be a useful tool in tracking and dealing with anti-social behaviour in the Gypsy and Traveller community. However, this system will not be available for at least another two years. In the meantime agencies and local authorities must work hard to develop communication channels between all relevant departments and officers working on mainstream policies which are relevant to the travelling community. Email networks, and electronic good practice forums may provide a useful framework.



320   Q 181 [Rick Bristow, Chairman, Cottenham Residents Association] Back

321   West Sussex County Council, A Strategy on Gypsies and Travellers in West Sussex, January 2003, pg 12 Back

322   HC 63-III, Ev 42 [Association of Chief Police Officers]  Back

323   Q 220 [Pat Weale, Gypsy Services Manager for Worcestershire County Council] Back

324   Q 220 [Terry Holland, Gypsy Services Manager of Buckinghamshire County Council] Back

325   Q 186 [Rick Bristow, Chairman, Cottenham Residents Association] Back

326   Q 282 [Alistair McWhirter, Chief Constable of Suffolk and representative of the Association of Chief Police Officers] Back

327   West Sussex County Council, A Strategy on Gypsies and Travellers in West Sussex, January 2003, pg 13 Back

328   Q 304 [Mr John Treble CBE, Vice-President and Vice-Chair, Somerset Association of Local Councils, National Association of Local Councils] Back

329   West Sussex County Council, A Strategy on Gypsies and Travellers in West Sussex, January 2003, pg 16 Back

330   Totton and Eling Town Council, Views and Responses in respect of Travellers, 14th July 2004, pg 1-2 Back

331   Dr Colm Power, Room to Roam, England's Irish Travellers, June 2004, pg 7 Back

332   HC 63-III, Ev 42 [Association of Chief Police Officers] Back

333   HC 63-III, Ev 42 [Association of Chief Police Officers] Back

334   Q 276 [Alistair McWhirter, Chief Constable of Suffolk and representative of the Association of Chief Police Officers] Back

335   HC 63-III, Ev 42 [Association of Chief Police Officers]  Back

336   HC 63-III, Ev 42 [Association of Chief Police Officers] Back

337   Q 279-80 Back

338   Q 277 Back

339   HC 63-III, Ev 42 [Association of Chief Police Officers] Back

340   Q 358-364 Back

341   HC 63-III, Ev 117, [Home Office] Back

342   The name stands for Intelligence Management, Prioritisation, Analysis, Co-ordination and Tasking (GTS 53). Back

343   HC 63-III, Ev 117, [Home Office] Back


 
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