Select Committee on Public Accounts Minutes of Evidence


Correspondence between a constituent of Siobhain McDonagh MP to the Committee and to the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA)

LETTER FROM CONSTITUENT OF SIOBHAIN MCDONAGH MP

  I am writing further to your letter letting me know that the meeting of the Committee of Public Accounts at which the NAO Report will be considered is to be held on 22 October, and asking me to let you know what I would like you to do.

  I apologise for the delay in getting back to you, but the situation has changed since I first approached you on this matter, at least insofar as it affects us. Firstly, a combination of budget cuts and changes in policy earlier this year mean that our chances of obtaining a grant from Merton were reduced, in effect, to zero. Secondly, when our boiler underwent its annual service last month, it was condemned as unsafe because of a defective flue. This left us in the same position that was highlighted as being unsatisfactory in the NAO Report, namely that our alternatives were either to spend the winter without proper heating or hot water while awaiting help from the Warm Front Scheme, or to find the money for the necessary work ourselves—which of course we did.

  In the event, British Gas took only slightly longer to quote for, deliver and install a new boiler and flue than Merton had done to respond to our request for an update on their grants policy. Having said that, I don't want to be too critical of the Council—they should not really have to fund this kind of work any more, and have only got involved on this occasion because of the shortcomings of the Warm Front Scheme, which is what motivated me to contact you in the first place.

  Although we now no longer have any personal stake in the outcome of the Committee's deliberation on the NAO Report, I am still of the view that the Warm Front Scheme's many shortcomings have been clearly identified by the NAO, and that the recommendations contained in the report should be implemented.

  In common with the other issues that I have raised with you over the years (Special Educational Needs, Working Families' Tax Credits/Passported Benefited/Disabled Child Premiums—all of which have related directly or indirectly to our son's disability), there is nothing wrong in principle with the Warm Front Scheme, and the government deserves credit for its commitment to helping families such as ourselves. Unfortunately, such credit has been largely dissipated by the wholly unsatisfactory way in which these initiatives have been administered by the NGO or the local or central government department charged with their implementation.

  As regards next week's meeting, may I urge you to submit a response to the Committee supporting the NAO's recommendations on the basis that at least one family in your constituency has experienced the kind of problems that those recommendations are intended to resolve.

13 October 2003

LETTER FROM SIOBHAIN MCDONAGH MP TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE

  Further to my letter concerning my constituent and the problems he has identified in the operation of the Warm Front Scheme, I understand that you will be considering the National Audit Office Report on 22 October.

  I would be very grateful if you could consider the points raised by my constituent in his letter of 13 October which identifies the problem created by grants not being provided until such time as the central heating boiler has actually broken down. As you will see from my constituent's case, the family quite rightly felt unable to operate without a central heating boiler for the nine months it would take for it to be replaced through the Warm Front Scheme and therefore found their own funds to do this work.

  I would be very grateful if you might inform the Committee of this case and the problems it identifies.Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Siobhain McDonagh MP

17 October 2003

REPLY FROM THE DEPARTMENT FOR ENVIRONMENT, FOOD AND RURAL AFFAIRS TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE

  Thank you for forwarding to me, via the Committee Assistant's letter of 28 October, correspondence from Siobhain McDonagh MP enclosing correspondence from one of her constituents, relating to Warm Front. We briefly discussed her constituent's complaint during the PAC hearing on 22 October and I have now had the opportunity to consider the correspondence (which raises a number of significant issues).

  At the risk of repeating what you know from the NAO Report and the PAC hearing, Warm Front provides a range of specified insulation and heating measures depending upon the needs of the eligible householders and measures already installed in the property. Scheme Managers appoint surveyors who then recommend which measures should be installed. Some householders will be eligible for a range of measures, for example cavity wall insulation, draught proofing, loft insulation, central heating, energy efficiency advice or energy efficient light bulbs. Others may receive just one of these measures as others are already installed or there are technical reasons that further work cannot be carried out. Following this route helps to ensure that the most appropriate measures are installed—subject to the grant maximum.

  Warm Front grants are not paid directly to households. Payments are made by the scheme managers to installers. We place stringent requirements on the Warm Front scheme managers to ensure that payments are only made when they have satisfactory evidence of the work having been completed.

  According to the current scheme rules, in order for a boiler or radiators to be repaired, the boiler has to be non-operational at the time of survey. Where central heating systems have broken down, they can be either repaired or, if that is not economically viable, replaced on a like for like basis. Warm Front does not currently provide additional heating. During the PAC hearing you and other committee members raised concerns about the constraints imposed by these requirements, and you mentioned the correspondence from Siobhain McDonagh MP. As I explained, these rules are under urgent review. Discussions with stakeholders are already underway.

  If her constituent wishes to apply for a grant under Warm Front for other measures, such as insulation measures, may I suggest he contacts Eaga on 0800 316 6011.

  Her constituent also raised the issue of the timescale for the installation of heating measures (this too was discussed during the PAC hearing). Eaga have advised that the waiting times for the installation of heating measures within her constituent's area is presently between three to six months. (These are average timescales and can vary depending on seasonal demand). As I explained at the PAC Hearing, over the past year there has been a 17% reduction in the average waiting time for work undertaken as part of the Warm Front Scheme. The scheme managers are doing everything they can to improve the waiting times. For example, they are encouraging installers to transfer resources from areas of low to high demand, and are continuing to identify additional firms that are able to carry out the work. We are also working with the Energy Saving Trust, the Learning and Skills Council, Corgi, OFTEC and the heating industry to launch a major new programme to train 70,000 heating installers to help address the problem of delays.

  As Mr Leek (Operations Director, Eaga Partnership Limited) explained at the PAC hearing, Scheme Managers have exceeded the target that has been set for them in installing heating systems into clients' homes every year that the scheme has been running. Over 700,000 households have now received assistance, improving the comfort of their homes. We are continually working with the Scheme Managers to identify ways to improve performance and delivery of the scheme.

  I am copying this letter, as you requested, to Siobhain McDonagh MP, and to the Comptroller and Auditor General.

Sir Brian Bender KCB

Permanent Secretary

20 November 2003


 
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