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Select Committee on Public Administration Fifth Report


FORMAL MINUTES

Wednesday 7 July 2004

Members present:

Tony Wright, in the Chair


Mr Kevin BrennanMr Kelvin Hopkins
Annette BrookeMr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mrs Anne CampbellMr Gordon Prentice
Sir Sydney ChapmanMr Brian White
Mr David Heyes


The Committee deliberated.

Draft Report (A Matter of Honour: Reforming the Honours System), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

Ordered, That the Chairman's draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.

Paragraphs 1 to 154 read and greed to.

Paragraphs 155 to 157 read.

Amendment proposed, to leave out Paragraphs 155 to 157 and insert:

"We recommend that the levels of the Order of British Excellence should be Knight/Dame, Companion, Officer and Member. The only other national honour (except those awarded for gallantry and those in the personal gift of the Queen) should be the Companion of Honour.

"These reforms would reduce the number of Orders outside the personal gift of the Queen from 5 to 2 and total number of acronyms from 16 to 6. Table B compares the current system with the proposed".—(Sir Sydney Chapman).

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.


Ayes, 1
  
Sir Sydney Chapman
Noes, 8
  
Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Mrs Anne Campbell
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon Prentice
Mr Brian White


Paragraphs agreed to.

Paragraphs 158 to 162 agreed to.

Paragraph 163 read.

Amendment proposed, to insert "and departments" after "Ministers" and, "but not to act as barriers" after "others"—(Mr Brian White).

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided.


Ayes, 1
  
Mr Brian White

Noes, 7
  
Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Sir Sydney Chapman
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon Prentice



Paragraph agreed to.

Paragraphs 164 to 192 agreed to.

Summary agreed to.

Annex agreed to.

Motion made, and question put, That the Report be the fifth Report of the Committee to the House—(The Chairman).

The Committee divided.


Ayes, 7
  
Mr Kevin Brennan
Annette Brooke
Mr David Heyes
Mr Kelvin Hopkins
Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger
Mr Gordon Prentice
Mr Brian White

Noes, 0
  


Resolved, That the Report be the Fifth Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chairman do make the Report to the House.

Ordered, That the provisions of Standing Order No. 134 (Select committees (reports)) be applied to the Report.

Several Papers were ordered to be appended to the Report.

Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee be reported to the House.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 13 July at 9.30am





 
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