Select Committee on Public Administration Written Evidence


Memorandum by Robin Eve CC (HON 69)

INTRODUCTION

  My general view is that there is merit in an honours system. However, there is little merit in retaining the titles which go with certain honours. I hold two foreign decorations but no honorific title is bestowed. That does not in any way reduce the respect for the honours, particularly for one which is on a very restricted numerical distribution.

  As to the peerage I see no harm in courtesy titles for inherited peerages—arguably they are simply names—but there can be no justification for titles for life peerages which simply reflect membership of a reviewing chamber.

  Post nominal initials might be continued and Members of the House of Lords ( perhaps one might consider a different title) could be given a suitable set of initials.

QUESTIONS

  1.  Most countries have an honours system and the UK is no different. There is need for fewer and more significant awards.

  2.  There is no need or, indeed, justification for a title to go with Membership of the Upper House which is, after all, only a reviewing chamber.

  3.  Other countries do not award pre-nominals or titles. Titles are divisive in a democratic society.

  4.  Awards should be for service above and beyond the call of employment.

  5.  Yes. Witness other countries which have various honours designated to special fields.

  6.  Criteria are not known and not understood by the general population For example most people do not recognise the difference between MBE, OBE, etc.

  7.  No comment.

  8.  No comment

  9.  I do not see why.

  10.  No comment

  11.  No comment—but I would approve of a system if it could be devised.

  12.  There is a general understanding of the Order of the British Empire but it does have a somewhat wistful interpretation. Perhaps it is time to have a simple Order of Merit as used widely by other countries or, alternatively have one based on the national flag.

  Titles should be abolished. It is the height of absurdity that the addition of a class two honour should automatically change Mr John Smith to Sir John Smith—and even more ludicrous that his wife should become Lady Smith (it does not happen with women's titles).

  13.  The title Rt. Honourable should perhaps be retained for serving ministers and ex ministers still in the House of Commons and those otherwise entitled as long as they hold the office which entitled them.

  14.  Most countries do retain several grades—generally five. Certainly more than one is required in order to reflect different levels of achievement (but see (4) above)

  15.  Perhaps the Honours Committee might more accurately reflect the population as a whole.

  16.  I believe it is a motivating force.

  17.  It was only fair when financial rewards of employment in the public sector were modest—if not downright low. With rewards at the upper levels now in excess of £200,000 pa with fully indexed final salary pensions they are most certainly not.

  18.  Probably not.

  19.  Yes, of course. Hence my suggestion at (15).

  20.  Yes, I believe strongly that the hold of the civil service should be broken. I would support a fully independent committee (including independence from the Prime Minister and the Cabinet Office).

  21.  Higher echelons receive good rewards (see (17)). On retirement they not only receive good pensions but at the higher levels also, on retirement, collect a good number of highly paid sinecures.

  22.  I am not sure about cutting down but state servants should have to compete on exactly equal terms as everyone else—particularly in respect of giving something extra to justify the awards.

  23.  Yes. For many the honours system is based on false values.

  24.  It becomes a live issue generally when someone known gets or does not get an honour.

  25.  I suspect that the general public are better informed than they were.

  26.  Perhaps by having information readily available at public offices, libraries, etc.

  27.  The proportions are wrong. Most should come from the public or other organisations—such as local authorities, public bodies etc.

  28.  There is room for some retention of recommendation from central bodies such as government but it should be a small percentage.

  29.  Yes, of course there should be more openness and a full citation should be published.

  30.  Perhaps, but so what?

  31.  There is evidence of political abuse—merely look at the rewards given to party faithfuls. The Prime Minister and the Cabinet Office should be removed from the Honours system. Let the Prime Minister make his recommendations to the Committee as does everyone else.

  32.  Very little directly. Perhaps by the nomination of Members of the Committee.

  33.  Yes, an excellent idea.

  34.  Yes.

March 2004





 
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