Select Committee on Public Administration Written Evidence


Memorandum by Sir Conrad Swan LKCVO (HON 70)

  1.  Yes, the United Kingdom needs an honours system. It is only the impolite who do not say, "Thank you", and that applies both to nations as well as to people. Bearing in mind the size of the population, some 300,000 awards per year is not overly generous, and 10 or 100 would, in my opinion, be ridiculous—there is much more excellence about in this country than those small numbers would reflect.

  2.  The hereditary peerage, in or out of the House of Lords, should be kept as it is, a living monument to service to the nation and of great historical importance. Impiety is a dishonourable attitude in any form.

  3.  The experience of other countries should teach us to keep close to our own, home-grown system which is much respected abroad.

  4.  Yes, there is a future in the honours system to recognize distinctions in particular fields, to reward service, to pay tribute to those who best represent the nation's values—and those who through sheer determination overcome physical problems.

  5.  Nothing human is perfect, but our honours system can strive for perfection.

  6.  The criteria for awards are, probably, not as well known and understood as they should be. A series of quiet, well thought out pamphlets, articles in newspapers, occasional talks on the television and wireless would help greatly.

  7.  The award of an honour is bound to be the result of "an art rather than of a science'—as are almost all other purely human decisions (and none the worse for that).

  8.  Peer groups: such as professional, business, academic, occupation bodies should be asked to provide their opinion concerning the recommending of candidates for honours.

  9.  No.

  10.  The merits of all legitimate human endeavours should be recognized and not simply voluntary work, excellent though it is.

  11.   An organized, disciplined system whereby any person may propose anyone for consideration of an honour would help towards equity—the recommendation to be assessed independently, of course.

  12.  The British Empire, to mention just a few attributes,

    (a)  was the first country to abolish the slave trade

    (b)  was the first to abolish slavery

    (c)  spread and applied a legal system, second to none in equity over much of the globe where, in succeeding independent states, it is still applied

    (d)  handed over voluntarily, to self governing independence in respect about 9/10 of its overseas possessions

    (e)  provided what is now the "universal language'

    (f)  over many years, granted a safe home to thousands of refugees who sought, with expectations not disappointed, freedom

    (g)  inspired the foundation of a Society of Honour known as the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire in recognition of the excellent work by those many people, of the most humble status in society, who were the backbone of the industrial war effort of World War 1

    (h)  et cetera, et cetera.

  The British Empire was not perfect—what human institution is? But the world would be a poorer place nowadays if it had not existed.

  We should be immensely proud of the record of the British Empire and so keep that Society of Honour named in its honour. Such may not be politically correct—every age has its political correctness—but it is a valid sentiment, nevertheless—just ask those families, originally from abroad, who have had the benefit of its sense of "fair play' and liberty.

  In our system of honours, this Order takes care of all that excellence which can not be recognised through the other Orders.

  13.  Yes, the style of Right Honourable for Privy Counsellors should continue. It reminds one of the historical fact that whereas originally Privy Counsellors were almost invariably Peers—and so Right Honourable automatically—nevertheless ability to contribute positively to the deliberations of the Privy Council is not confined to those of the Peerage alone, so by a long historical process, others have been admitted and this honourable distinction makes that patent.

  14.  It was Napoleon who first started multi-graded honours with the Legion d'Honneur, and such is an extremely convenient arrangement when one has to recognise excellence in the lowest as well as the highest fields of endeavour, as well as all those in between.

  15.  The question is asked, ". . . should there be an increase in the proportion of women and minority ethnic people on Honours Committees?'. In such matters concern over sex or ethnicity may, upon occasions, be helpful. However, some people, today, overlook the fact that competence is independent of being found in man/woman/White/Black/non-United Kingdom descent and so on and so on: the possession of competence does not depend upon such factors though some fall for this modern shibboleth.

  16.  Those in the public administration system in the United Kingdom could, in the private sector, have earned much more. However, the possibility of an honour recognizing their good work urges them forward to produce the best.

  17.  Civil Servants, Diplomats and Military Force members—no matter how hard they might work—can never earn more money as their salaries are set at fixed levels. Accordingly, honours compensate and recognize their good work.

  18.  Excellence will always attract the highest rewards.

  19.  If peer groups (as in Question 8 above) are a good thing for keeping an eye on how the system works, then mutates mutandis for Civil Servants being the main judges in assessing other civil Servants' awards.

  20.  A mixture of independent "outsiders' with peer groups could well help towards "fair play' in honours committees—just a few. One does not want the "peers' feeling they are not trusted While serving on a committee, members should not receive honours, but after retirement from the Committee they should be on the same footing as anyone else for the possibility of an honour.

  21.  To try to equate higher pay with honours in not possible. The satisfaction experienced because of the one is not the same as that experience because of the other.

  22.  No, for the reasons given in answer to Question 17 above. Also such a move of reducing the number of Orders would "push out' the non-state servants. This idea is, in the opinion of this author, simply one of change for change sake.

  23.  No.

  24.  Yes.

  25.  No, and see the answer to Question 6 above.

  26.  As in the preceding

  27.  On balance, this system is fair.

  28.  The system does not need fundamental changes so that all honours are awarded as a result of public nominations. Such a change would ignore many who are now catered for the present official "departmental' nominations.

  29.  Full citations would be no bad thing—and a boon to future historians(!)

  30.  Yes.

  31.  There will always be the temptation for those forming the government of the day to favour unduly members of their own party—after all, Original Sin is universal even among Governments as well as Oppositions, mirabile dictum(!) but, by and large the British seem to keep a reasonable balance.

  32.  None whatsoever. The function of parliamentary bodies is for debating changes in the law; not for saying "well done'.

  33.  Certainly not, for the same reasons as given in the preceding. Further, the honours system in the United States is seminal, if not primitive, compared with that of the United Kingdom.

  34.  This author thinks not.

Conrad Swan

March 2004





 
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