Mr. Don Foster:
The Secretary of State began by saying that the Bill had been a long time coming, and she was right. I, too, pay tribute to the many people who
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have been involved in the deliberations that have gone on during those years. In particular, I praise the hon. Member for Ryedale (Mr. Greenway) and members of his Committee for their work. It is interesting to note that we have needed all that time just to work out the precise number of casinos in this countryonly tonight did we finally get the definitive answer of 136.
As the Secretary of State observed, many parts of the Bill have a great deal of support on both sides of the House, and outside the Housefor example, the provisions concerning internet gambling, tougher social responsibility requirements, and a tougher regulator in the shape of the gambling commission, which will replace the Gaming Boardbut many people have deep concerns about other aspects. That is particularly true in relation to casinos. The Secretary of State said that the Government should listen. Of course they should, but the real question is this: to whom were they listening when they first came up with those proposals? I know of very few people who have expressed any real desire for the massive increase in gambling opportunities proposed by the Bill in its initial form.
I am delighted that the Government have belatedly listened and made a welcome U-turn. It is right to have a pilot period, and a cap on the number of casinos during that time. However, much remains to be done in another place. The hon. Member for Bridgend (Mr. Griffiths) raised several issues, not least trying to ensure that casinos do not open on Christmas day. Because of the shortage of time, or the Government's unwillingness, we have been unable even to determine the value of a teddy bear in a family entertainment arcade.
Although a great deal of work remains to be done, I have no doubt that the Bill is far better than it was on Second Reading. I pay tribute to all those who have worked to make it a better Bill during its passage in Committee and tonight.
9.58 pm
Tessa Jowell:
The House has had an opportunity for full discussion. Clearly, there are issues to be raised in another place, but I echo the sentiments of several hon. Members of all parties who have said that scrutiny has made the Bill a better measure. The people of this country need the protection that the Bill offers, and I commend it to the House.
Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time:
The House divided: Ayes 236, Noes 38.
Division No. 43
[9.59 pm
AYES
Ainsworth, Bob
(Cov'try NE)
Allen, Graham
Armstrong, rh Ms Hilary
Atkins, Charlotte
Bailey, Adrian
Baird, Vera
Barron, rh Kevin
Battle, rh John
Beard, Nigel
Begg, Miss Anne
Benton, Joe
(Bootle)
Berry, Roger
Betts, Clive
Blackman, Liz
Bradley, rh Keith
(Withington)
Bradley, Peter
(The Wrekin)
Bradshaw, Ben
Brennan, Kevin
Browne, Desmond
Bryant, Chris
Buck, Ms Karen
Burgon, Colin
Burnham, Andy
Caborn, rh Richard
Cairns, David
Campbell, Alan
(Tynemouth)
Campbell, Mrs Anne
(C'bridge)
Casale, Roger
Caton, Martin
Cawsey, Ian
(Brigg)
Challen, Colin
Chapman, Ben
(Wirral S)
Clapham, Michael
Clark, Mrs Helen
(Peterborough)
Clark, Dr. Lynda
(Edinburgh Pentlands)
Clarke, rh Tom
(Coatbridge & Chryston)
Clarke, Tony
(Northampton S)
Clelland, David
Coaker, Vernon
Coffey, Ms Ann
Cohen, Harry
Colman, Tony
Connarty, Michael
Cook, rh Robin
(Livingston)
Cousins, Jim
Cruddas, Jon
Cryer, Ann
(Keighley)
Cryer, John
(Hornchurch)
Cummings, John
Cunningham, rh Dr. Jack
(Copeland)
Cunningham, Jim
(Coventry S)
Cunningham, Tony
(Workington)
Curtis-Thomas, Mrs Claire
Dalyell, Tam
Davey, Valerie
(Bristol W)
David, Wayne
Davies, Geraint
(Croydon C)
Dawson, Hilton
Dean, Mrs Janet
Denham, rh John
Dhanda, Parmjit
Dismore, Andrew
Dobbin, Jim
(Heywood)
Donohoe, Brian H.
Doran, Frank
Dowd, Jim
(Lewisham W)
Eagle, Angela
(Wallasey)
Eagle, Maria
(L'pool Garston)
Efford, Clive
Ellman, Mrs Louise
Ennis, Jeff
(Barnsley E)
Farrelly, Paul
Fitzpatrick, Jim
Flint, Caroline
Follett, Barbara
Foster, rh Derek
Foster, Michael
(Worcester)
Foster, Michael Jabez
(Hastings & Rye)
Gapes, Mike
(Ilford S)
Gerrard, Neil
Godsiff, Roger
Goggins, Paul
Griffiths, Nigel
(Edinburgh S)
Hain, rh Peter
Hall, Mike
(Weaver Vale)
Hamilton, Fabian
(Leeds NE)
Hanson, David
Harman, rh Ms Harriet
Harris, Tom
(Glasgow Cathcart)
Healey, John
Henderson, Ivan
(Harwich)
Hendrick, Mark
Hepburn, Stephen
Heppell, John
Heyes, David
Hill, rh Keith
(Streatham)
Hoon, rh Geoffrey
Hope, Phil
(Corby)
Howarth, rh Alan
(Newport E)
Howells, Dr. Kim
Hoyle, Lindsay
Hughes, rh Beverley
(Stretford & Urmston)
Hughes, Kevin
(Doncaster N)
Humble, Mrs Joan
Illsley, Eric
Irranca-Davies, Huw
Jackson, Helen
(Hillsborough)
Jamieson, David
Jenkins, Brian
Johnson, rh Alan
(Hull W)
Jones, Helen
(Warrington N)
Jones, Martyn
(Clwyd S)
Jowell, rh Tessa
Kaufman, rh Sir Gerald
Keeble, Ms Sally
Keen, Alan
(Feltham)
Keen, Ann
(Brentford)
Khabra, Piara S.
Kidney, David
King, Andy
(Rugby)
Knight, Jim
(S Dorset)
Kumar, Dr. Ashok
Lawrence, Mrs Jackie
Laxton, Bob
(Derby N)
Lepper, David
Leslie, Christopher
Levitt, Tom
(High Peak)
Liddell, rh Mrs Helen
Linton, Martin
Love, Andrew
Lucas, Ian
(Wrexham)
Luke, Iain
(Dundee E)
McAvoy, rh Thomas
McDonagh, Siobhain
McGuire, Mrs Anne
McIsaac, Shona
McKechin, Ann
McKenna, Rosemary
McNulty, Tony
MacShane, Denis
Mactaggart, Fiona
McWilliam, John
Mahmood, Khalid
Mallaber, Judy
Mann, John
(Bassetlaw)
Marris, Rob
(Wolverh'ton SW)
Marsden, Gordon
(Blackpool S)
Meacher, rh Michael
Merron, Gillian
Michael, rh Alun
Miliband, David
Miller, Andrew
Moffatt, Laura
Mole, Chris
Moonie, Dr. Lewis
Morley, Elliot
Morris, rh Estelle
Mountford, Kali
Mudie, George
Mullin, Chris
Munn, Ms Meg
Murphy, Denis
(Wansbeck)
Naysmith, Dr. Doug
O'Brien, Bill
(Normanton)
O'Brien, Mike
(N Warks)
Olner, Bill
O'Neill, Martin
Organ, Diana
Osborne, Sandra
(Ayr)
Owen, Albert
Perham, Linda
Picking, Anne
Pickles, Eric
Plaskitt, James
Pope, Greg
(Hyndburn)
Pound, Stephen
Prentice, Ms Bridget
(Lewisham E)
Primarolo, rh Dawn
Prosser, Gwyn
Purnell, James
Quinn, Lawrie
Raynsford, rh Nick
Reed, Andy
(Loughborough)
Robertson, John
(Glasgow Anniesland)
Ross, Ernie
(Dundee W)
Ruane, Chris
Ruddock, Joan
Russell, Ms Christine
(City of Chester)
Ryan, Joan
(Enfield N)
Sarwar, Mohammad
Savidge, Malcolm
Shaw, Jonathan
Sheerman, Barry
Sheridan, Jim
Simon, Siôn
(B'ham Erdington)
Smith, rh Andrew
(Oxford E)
Smith, Angela
(Basildon)
Soley, Clive
Southworth, Helen
Starkey, Dr. Phyllis
Steinberg, Gerry
Stewart, David
(Inverness E & Lochaber)
Stewart, Ian
(Eccles)
Stinchcombe, Paul
Stoate, Dr. Howard
Strang, rh Dr. Gavin
Stuart, Ms Gisela
Tami, Mark
(Alyn)
Taylor, rh Ann
(Dewsbury)
Taylor, Dari
(Stockton S)
Thomas, Gareth
(Clwyd W)
Thomas, Gareth
(Harrow W)
Tipping, Paddy
Todd, Mark
(S Derbyshire)
Touhig, Don
(Islwyn)
Truswell, Paul
Turner, Dennis
(Wolverh'ton SE)
Turner, Dr. Desmond
(Brighton Kemptown)
Twigg, Derek
(Halton)
Twigg, Stephen
(Enfield)
Tynan, Bill
(Hamilton S)
Ward, Claire
Watson, Tom
Watts, David
White, Brian
Whitehead, Dr. Alan
Wicks, Malcolm
Williams, Betty
(Conwy)
Wills, Michael
Winnick, David
Woodward, Shaun
Woolas, Phil
Wright, Anthony D.
(Gt Yarmouth)
Wright, David
(Telford)
Wright, Iain
(Hartlepool)
Wyatt, Derek
Tellers for the Ayes:
Mr. Nick Ainger and
Paul Clark
NOES
Bennett, Andrew
Campbell, Gregory
(E Lond'y)
Davidson, Ian
Davies, rh Denzil
(Llanelli)
Dodds, Nigel
Drew, David
(Stroud)
Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth
Fallon, Michael
Field, rh Frank
(Birkenhead)
Fisher, Mark
Gibson, Dr. Ian
Griffiths, Win
(Bridgend)
Hamilton, David
(Midlothian)
Hermon, Lady
Hoey, Kate
(Vauxhall)
Hogg, rh Douglas
Hunter, Andrew
Llwyd, Elfyn
MacDonald, Calum
McDonnell, John
Mackinlay, Andrew
Mitchell, Austin
(Gt Grimsby)
Price, Adam
(E Carmarthen & Dinefwr)
Robertson, Angus
(Moray)
Sayeed, Jonathan
Simpson, Alan
(Nottingham S)
Skinner, Dennis
Smith, Geraldine
(Morecambe & Lunesdale)
Smith, Llew
(Blaenau Gwent)
Smyth, Rev. Martin
(Belfast S)
Spink, Bob
(Castle Point)
Taylor, David
(NW Leics)
Thomas, Simon
(Ceredigion)
Wareing, Robert N.
Williams, rh Alan
(Swansea W)
Williams, Hywel
(Caernarfon)
Winterton, Ann
(Congleton)
Winterton, Sir Nicholas
(Macclesfield)
Tellers for the Noes:
Mr. Kelvin Hopkins and
Mr. Harry Barnes
Question accordingly agreed to.
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Bill read the Third time, and passed.