Select Committee on Constitutional Affairs Written Evidence


Evidence submitted by Fred J Perkins, Chairman and Chief Executive, Information TV Ltd

I am pleased to present this personal submission to the Committee.

  I was CEO and COO of The Stationery Office Ltd (TSO), from its privatisation in 1996 until I left in March 2003 to set up a new venture—Information TV—which is committed to providing a conduit for public bodies to communicate with their audiences through television. Information TV is an independent television channel on Sky Digital channel 588 (News and Documentaries) and simulcast on broadband via our website at www.information.tv.

  My own interest in FoI is non-political, nor am I involved with any special interest or lobbying groups relating to FoI. In the course of my work, I followed the legislation, and developed a strong interest in the implementation of the Act and in the issues which have arisen. In the last several years I have frequently presented at events and participated in discussion fora on the implementation of the Act. These have tended to focus more on local government than on central government, if only because the Act appears to have raised more concerns at the local level than at central government.

  It is my personal belief that FoI could do more to revitalise interest in the democratic process and political involvement than all the other "initiatives" to encourage citizen involvement and interest in government. It was a very important commitment in the Labour government's manifesto for the 1997 election. Fulfilment of the pledges given then would, I believe, contribute strongly to a re-awakening of public interest in political affairs, and if handled well by all sides, in a very positive way. Conversely, weakening of the original pledges, whether real or perceived, could be very damaging, and further encourage public cynicism in our governmental processes.

  It is thus my fervent hope that full implementation of the Act will be embraced positively by government, the media and the public. My faith in the benefits to be gained is based on the fact that fundamentally, FoI seems to me to be simply good "corporate" governance and open government. The already high standards of our public sector are being, rightly, opened up to wider visibility. The public sector has the opportunity to demonstrate the accountability and openness which government seeks to impose on private businesses. I believe the public sector has little to fear, and can be exemplars of best practice. However, there is great fear (and often misunderstanding), which coupled with the traditional reluctance to accept change, makes this a difficult and challenging transition for the public sector.

  I would like to make the following points regarding the questions posed under the terms of reference of the Committee:

        "Big Bang" rather than phased implementation: The implementation has been phased—over four years from the passing of the Act into law. I, and many others, have however been conscious that little attention was paid to the implementation issues until the last 18-24 months, and even then largely because outside bodies issued a "wake-up" call.

  We are not going to see a "Big Bang" in January 2005. Another phase of implementation will occur. There will be a flurry of press attention, and possibly a few headlines, but it will be several years before the Act truly begins to deliver its promises and benefits. The Committee would do well to examine experiences from Countries like Canada (with a very similar FoI regime). In the 20 years since Canada's implementation, the legislation has gradually settled down and become a normal component of government. Technology and the Internet will hasten the process here, but it will be a gradual one.

  The intermediate stages, such as Publication Schemes, further exemplify the phased approach which has occured. However, I feel that the Schemes are widely varying in quality and effectiveness, and were approached overly much in a "box-ticking" mindset. They were not generally seen as an important beginning of the "opening up" process.

  I would make one observation to the Committee: it seems to me that preparedness in Scotland—which passed legislation later than England, but which is adhering to the same timetable—is considerably ahead of England. The degree of understanding across the public sector appears to be much higher—and the engagement of leaders (political and public sector) at a higher level.

  I do not consider that the original timetable was "ambitious". The fact that we are perhaps dangerously lacking in preparedness, a mere few months' from full implementation, does, I feel, reflect only the approach to implementation.

  Preparedness: I believe we are generally poorly prepared. There is a real danger that a cynical media will seek out opportunities to embarrass government, exploiting this lack of preparedness. Too much of this at an early stage will endanger the objectives of the whole Act.

  Fundamental to preparedness is Awareness. I believe that the public sector as a whole suffers a worrying lack of awareness of the Act's intentions and implications. In a last minute panic to "be ready", it is seen as something which has to be defended against—a very negative approach.

  We are generally suffering from a lack of leadership. In too many areas, FoI is being positioned as the job of a small group to look after, rather than a fundamental culture change which must engage every public sector worker. There is very little evidence of senior officials (or political leaders) committing themselves to effective embracing of the Act's objectives.

  Too much of the guidance which is—belatedly—being issued seems designed to provide excuses for avoiding the very objectives behind the Act. Thre is very little reinforcement of the outcomes which were the Act's objectives.

  My own TV channel has been regularly broadcasting a 30-minute programme (sponsored by a private sector company) which attempts to demonstrate, via an entertaining yet informative docu-drama, how FoI might impact a local authority. We have continually received positive comments from public sector workers, asking if they can record the programme and show it to their colleagues, "because it shows, better than all the `guidance' received thus far, how FoI will actually work". This should be a cause of serious concern, at this late stage.

  A key area of lack of preparedness is at infrastructure levels. The Act presents a fundamental requirement for efficient records management. The civil service has very good historical records management, but woefully lacking in fitness for purpose under FoI. The Act should have been a justification for rapid investment in new systems to bring the public sector up to date. This has clearly not happened—and has led to one of the fundamental causes for complaint from local government in particular, that they do not have the resources to fund the investment required.

  At the next layer of preparedness, it is the processes in government which will be most subject to change if FoI is to be delivered effectively. Again, there has been little attention paid to this area until the eleventh hour. And it is in this area that early causes of embarrassment are most likely to arise—lack of communication across and within departments, inconsistent responses to FoI requests, inadequately prepared staff.

  Only when infrastructure and processes are addressed is it possible to properly embark on the training required—and, again, this means training at all levels of government. It is only in very recent months that training appears to have begun. It is generally being addressed at only specialist areas. And—most worryingly—it seems for the most part to be about "protecting" the government unit, rather than embracing the intent of the Act.

  In summary—I believe we are woefully unprepared to deliver good "public service" under the FoI. However, it is not too late, provided we act quickly and recognise (publicly) that it will take some time to deliver the levels of service which are (were) originally intended.

  Role of the DCA: It seems to me that the DCA is doing a pretty good job overall, but started far too late, and will struggle to catch up. There are many areas where guidance is desperately needed. Too much of the materials being made available are little more than "interpretation" of the legislation, and not nearly enough on "how to" actually manage implementation. The many self-help groups, inside and outside government itself, are doing much more to help critical areas of preparedness—but with dangers of inconsistency (or even error).

  There are significant areas where the DCA itself is presumably handicapped, because the political leaders have not set out basic elements of strategy—eg with respect to fees. Equally, the silence from political leaders as to their intentions as far as observance, interpretation, and application of discretion, must surely severely constrain DCA's ability to provide good advice or help.

  Even amongst political leaders and the DCA, there are areas of lack of understanding (or intent) on fundamental aspects of the Act. It is inevitable that a wide-ranging and complex Act throws up many implementation issues, which need rapid resolution and clarification. For example, I was asked whether the files held by elected representatives (and MPs themselves) came under the Act. I have not yet managed to obtain a clear or consistent answer!

  Central & Local Government Issues: I believe the issues I have outlined above apply equally to Central and Local Government. However, the problems are especially severe for local authorities, who are themselves "mini governments", but without the resources or capabilities which a large central department can apply. Further, local authorities in particular are asking themselves the many broad-ranging questions regarding implementation, in a way which doesn't apply at the centre—and they need (and are not getting sufficient) guidance and resource.

  The issue of the charging regime is crucial, and the lack of policy (and preparedness) constitutes a major threat to overall public confidence in FoI. An approach which in any sense goes towards cost recovery will, I believe, cause grave embarrassment—it will highlight inconsistencies and flaws in public sector process. If I ask for straightforward information, it is not my fault (nor should it be to my cost) if the department cannot find information at what should be reasonable cost.

  I believe there will be no great deluge of FoI requests, and therefore no massive surge in resource costs, in the early days of full FoI implementation. Better, I therefore submit, to attach purely nominal costs to FoI requests—but be prepared to revisit the situation in the light of experience. And better, perhaps, to also ask whether it is necessary to invest in better systems in order to subsequently reduce the costs of future requests. Once again, I suggest the Committee looks to experience elsewhere in the world.

  Objectives: Finally, I would submit to the Committee that in scrutinising preparations for FoI, it is surely essential to have a clear (and restated, if necessary) position with respect to the desired outcomes of the FOIA. Much has changed, in government and in society, since the Act was introduced. It is difficult to fully assess preparedeness if it is not absolutely clear just what the objectives of the Act, and government's implementation of its provisions, entail.

Fred J Perkins

Chairman and Chief Executive

Information TV Ltd

October 2004





 
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