Select Committee on Culture, Media and Sport Minutes of Evidence


Memorandum submitted by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport

  On 21 December 2004, the Select Committee on Culture, Media and Sport announced that it had agreed to establish a sub-committee to examine the strategy, administration and resources aimed at implementing the Government's stated policy of preserving "the best of the . . . maritime heritage" and called for submissions. This is the submission from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport.

INTRODUCTION

  The plight of the maritime heritage and ship preservation has been an issue for a number of years. The English Tourist Board withdrew support (Section 4 grants) for historic ships in 1989, and in 1992 English Heritage withdrew from providing grant-in-aid for historic ships following a review of its strategy and priorities.

  Successive public debates on well-known historic vessels thought to be at risk (eg Carrick (City of Adelaide), Cavalier, Challenge and Cutty Sark) have highlighted the need for a coherent policy steer for preserving the country's most important historic ships. This view was reinforced by the Culture, Media and Sport Committee's Third Report of 25 February 1998 Preservation of Historic Ships: The case of HMS Cavalier[2] and Culture, Media and Sport Committee's Second Report of 4 February 1999 The Preservation of HMS Cavalier[3] which concluded that the Government had effectively placed the onus for funding of historic ships on the Heritage Lottery Fund (HLF), and that the delivery of a coherent policy framework was the responsibility of Government rather than the HLF.

CURRENT POSITION

  Depending on the precise definition adopted, there are probably between 2,000 and 4,000 historic ships and boats in the UK. They range from great national icons, like HMS Victory and SS Great Britain, to small fishing smacks, working barges and inland waterways craft. They testify to the huge importance of the sea, and of seagoing activity, in the nation's history, and to the importance of trade on our rivers and canals over many centuries and particularly during the period of industrialisation. Apart from their historical importance, many ships and boats are artefacts of great beauty and superb craftsmanship. The fact that ships and boats occupy a special place in the cultural consciousness of the UK is demonstrated by the extent of the public interest in them, and by the numbers of vessels preserved by private effort and made accessible to the public.

  The current ownership of historic craft is very varied. HMS Victory is still in commission in the Royal Navy; a small number of ships are cared for by national and regional museums (eg HMS Belfast in London, the pilot vessel Edmund Gardner at Liverpool); many are preserved by trusts set up specifically to preserve an individual vessel or class of boats; most, around 90%, are in private ownership. Many craft are still in use (eg the steam launches on Lake Windermere); others are still afloat but not in use (eg HMS Warrior); some are out of the water and preserved in dry dock (eg Cutty Sark) or in a museum (eg Turbinia at the Discovery Museum, Newcastle upon Tyne). Given the different reasons for preservation and the methods adopted, there is inevitable duplication within the sector.

  Much valuable work is already done for the preservation of historic craft. Some are cared for by national and local museums, but many more are preserved through the efforts of local trusts and individual owners. One of the most striking features of the sector is the enormous enthusiasm, expense and hard work which many owners and volunteers devote to the preservation and maintenance of historic craft.

  Organisations such as the Association of Dunkirk Little Ships, the Sailing Smack Association, the Steam Boat Association of Great Britain and the Old Gaffers Association exemplify the very active tradition of private ownership of hundreds of historic vessels. Of particular importance in recent years has been the work of Heritage Afloat (the Association for Ship and Boat Preservation Organisations), which represents its members' concerns to Government, regulatory and local authorities, and in contexts where important local or national maritime preservation issues are at stake.

  The Government provides financial support for historic ships only through its grant-in-aid to those national museums which hold vessels of historic significance in their collection (such as HMS Belfast at the Imperial War Museum, and over 200 small craft in the National Maritime Museum's collections), and through the PRISM fund administered by the Science Museum.

  The principal source of funding for the preservation of historic ships (in addition to private owners, private trusts and charitable trusts) is the HLF: in March 2002 the HLF told the Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee that grants totalling £25.7 million had been made to 33 historic vessels, including awards to assist SS Great Britain, HMS Trincomalee, Cutty Sark and Mary Rose. This is compared with 32 awards to railway preservation projects to a value of £3.5 million.

  There is no system for the statutory listing and protection of historic craft, as there is for historic buildings. One or two ships are listed or scheduled where they are now permanent land-based fixtures, but these are very much the exception—for instance, Cutty Sark at Greenwich is a Grade 1 listed structure. However, great advances have been made over recent years in the identification and classification of the historic fleet. The National Historic Ships Committee (NHSC), which was set up by interested groups in 1992 to develop and co-ordinate policy for historic ships, has sponsored a major research exercise, the National Historic Ships Project[4] conducted by the Scottish Institute for Maritime Studies at St Andrews University. The exercise resulted in the compilation of a National Register of Historic Vessels, and the identification of a "Core Collection" of 58 vessels of "pre-eminent national importance" and a further 164 on the "Designated List" of vessels "of substantial heritage merit but of greater local or regional significance".

  Within the parameters set for the study, historic craft are now better documented than ever before. Work is currently in hand, with financial support from English Heritage, to improve and update the information provided in the lists, particularly for those craft included in the Core Collection. Recent work suggests that a significant proportion of vessels in the Core Collection and on the Designated List continue to be at risk. Similar work has been carried out recently for inland waterways craft by the National Waterways Museum.

  The Trustees of the HLF have acknowledged the importance of the NHSC Register of Historic Vessels as a document that establishes significance for the historic vessels sector. In arriving at its grant decisions the HLF takes account of the relative importance attributed to individual craft in the lists published by the National Historic Ships Committee—the nationally designated Core Collection and the list of Designated Vessels for grant applications for vessels in Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and the English Regions.

  The HLF will continue to make decisions based on the merits of individual applications from organisations seeking to preserve and interpret historic vessels but will not predetermine a number of vessels from the Register suitable for grant, either from the Core Collection or from the Designated Vessels list. Some funding has also been made available by local authorities and from regeneration budgets. However, the bulk of the funding for ship preservation has come from private individuals and owners, including some hugely generous support for particular projects from individual donors.

  The Government is committed to delivering a national policy on ship preservation, recognising that there is a real opportunity to do something worthwhile for the maritime heritage of which the country is rightly proud, as well as fulfilling its obligation to the CMS Committee.

PROBLEMS

  Despite the co-ordination so far achieved, the overall impression of the sector involved with historic vessels is one of fragmentation: massive enthusiasm on the part of many owners and volunteers, but no real central focus or coherent ordering of priorities. In these circumstances the risk is that exchange of information will be inadequate and endeavour squandered through duplication and lack of leadership. Failure to address the problems facing historic vessels in a strategic and co-ordinated way could result in the loss for ever of ships that are important to the nation.

  There is also evidence of a lack of realism about the costs of preserving and maintaining historic vessels coupled with an unrealistic expectation of state funding. Ships—particularly the larger ones—are extraordinarily expensive objects to repair and conserve, especially those exposed to the weather, as nearly all are. Yet ships are often of outstanding historical importance, have compelling associations with historic events or achievements, and can also represent exceptional craftsmanship. People tend, out of a very understandable enthusiasm, to embark on preservation projects without full regard for the financial implications. The result can be great difficulty in completing a project or, perhaps even more commonly, great difficulty in raising maintenance costs on a long-term basis. There appears to be insufficient use in the sector of properly costed conservation plans which take a long-term view of projects before they are embarked on.

  Nor is it clear that the merits of alternatives to full-scale preservation have always been considered—in particular, ship modelling and the detailed recording of vessels. The latest recording techniques can offer a means of preserving not only technical data but also the character and "feel" of a vessel for much less than the cost of full preservation. There needs to be a wider awareness of what can be achieved by recording.

  Ships and boats have such fascination for many people that they offer an ideal means of raising interest in the past, promoting tourism and revitalising particular areas of our towns and cities. While much valuable use of historic vessels has been made for education and for the regeneration of harbours and other waterside areas, the Government believes that this aspect of ship preservation ought to be looked at afresh. Historic ships can play a significant role in delivering the Government's cultural objectives. Their tourism and regeneration potential could probably be taken further as part of the Government's strategy for tourism as set out in the published report, Tomorrow's Tourism: A Growth Industry for the New Millennium[5]

2002 MEMORANDUM

  In its memorandum of April 2002 to the Select Committee on Culture, Media and Sport, the Government set out the following basic principles for a national policy for historic ships:

    —  the policy framework should establish the priorities for funding and the criteria against which funding decisions should be taken;

    —  the policy should be sustainable, affordable and practicable;

    —  the policy priorities should take full account of the National Register of Historic Vessels;

    —  no project should be funded unless the ongoing maintenance costs have been assessed properly and arrangements can be made to meet them;

    —  there would be advantages in a sole body with a general oversight of historic vessels whatever the local management arrangements;

    —  the policy should have regard to support for the creative industries; and

    —  DCMS will not itself provide ongoing funding for the preservation and maintenance of historic ships other than those that form part of the collection of its sponsored museums.

  The Government does not provide funds for major projects; rather they are funded through arm's length bodies. The Government sees no prospect of its being able to devote substantial resources to the repair or maintenance of historic vessels, and believes that the scale of preservation undertaken will have to be related realistically to the resources likely to be available from existing sources of funding. This remains the Government's basic position. In a written response[6] on 11 July 2001 to questions raised in the House of Lords by the Baroness Anelay of St Johns, Lord McIntosh of Haringey replied: "there are no plans to provide statutory safeguards for those ships which are listed by the National Historic Ships Project as either core collection or designated status". His answer went on to say, "While the Government recognise the importance of historic ships to our heritage, we are not convinced that the extension of statutory protection to them is either necessary or appropriate".

  The Government believes that its main role should lie in the creation of a mechanism which will facilitate the clear identification of priorities; will ensure that sound guidance on preservation and recording strategies is widely available; and will promote public interest in ships, and their use for educational purposes.

CONSULTATION

  From 1 August-31 October 2003, the Government consulted on "Ships for the Nation", a paper setting out a Government policy for the preservation of historic ships and proposing the establishment of a National Historic Ships Unit, to:

    —  advise the Secretary of State on policy and priorities for the sector as a whole;

    —  co-ordinate work within the sector to assist those directly engaged in preservation; and

    —  promote public interest in historic ships as a key component of the maritime heritage.

  The consultation covered England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and invited comments from individuals and organisations with an interest in the preservation of historic ships.

  The Government's proposal was that a National Historic Ships Unit (NHSU) should be created within the National Maritime Museum (NMM). This Unit would not itself be directly responsible for any historic ships, but would have the job of advising the Secretary of State on policy and priorities for the sector as a whole, would seek to co-ordinate work within the sector to assist those directly engaged in preservation, and would seek to promote public interest in historic ships as a key component of the maritime heritage.

  It was envisaged that the NHSU would be a small Unit staffed by experts in the field and overseen by a committee of leading figures in the maritime and inland waterways worlds. The Unit would be steered by a Chairman, appointed by the Secretary of State, who would have the personal responsibility of advising the Secretary of State (and the devolved administrations) on policy and priorities. The Unit would require funding for its own running costs from central Government via grant-in-aid to the NMM.

GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO THE CONSULTATION

  Almost 100 responses to the consultation paper were received, over 70 from a wide range of interested organisations in the maritime sector and about 20 from individuals. The majority of respondents were in favour of the creation of a National Historic Ships Unit. However, as the consultation process also made clear, the availability of resources would be a key to determining what could be done and DCMS took the view that a formal response should not be made until it was known whether, and to what extent, resources would be available.

  Therefore, DCMS has been working to secure funding through the 2004 Spending Review to enable a response to be made to the consultation. Now that the Spending Review is complete, the funding has been secured and DCMS can confirm that it will establish and sponsor an independent National Historic Ships Unit. At Annex A is the draft document which has been prepared to publish the result of the consultation exercise and to announce the creation of the National Historic Ships Unit (NHSU).

  Our expectation is that the Unit will begin to operate on an interim basis during 2005-06 and will be fully up and running by 1 April 2006 when the new funding from the Spending Review comes on stream.

  The Unit's primary responsibilities will be to:

    —  provide leadership and strategic vision across the historic ships community;

    —  continue to maintain an authoritative and up-to-date register of the historic fleet, including the maintenance and updating of the National Register of Historic Ships and the development and monitoring of an "At Risk" register;

    —  provide the primary source of advice to Government on national ship preservation and funding priorities, monitoring practice in other countries;

    —  encourage a better understanding of the real life-costs of restoring and maintaining historic vessels;

    —  advise the HLF on preservation priorities and on individual funding bids for historic ships made to the HLF and advise other public funding bodies;

    —  develop and promote professional standards of good practice for the conservation and restoration of historic vessels, providing advice to trusts and owners on good practice and on fund-raising opportunities and promoting and making available to the public research into ship preservation and conservation techniques;

    —  provide guidance and advice to trusts and owners on business planning and interpretation to make ships become more self-sustaining and attractive to new audiences;

    —  improve the availability and standard of ship and boat conservation skills and training, and sharing of experience and expertise across the sector;

    —  advise on documentation and recording techniques in cases where vessels are beyond physical and economic preservation;

    —  promote the case for historic ships to a wider audience, preparing publicity for historic ships, eg a national website and other published material; and

    —  compile a register of firms and individuals capable of offering potential conservation skills, and promote opportunities for people to develop and maintain traditional ship-building and ship repairing skills.

  The Unit's work will be supplemented by a programme of small grants—most likely administered by DCMS—to promote DCMS objectives in the sector, the wider use of conservation plans and to sponsor research. We would encourage owners applying for HLF and other public grants to register first with the Unit.

  For purposes of administrative efficiency and to facilitate access to expert advice to the UK Maritime Collections Strategy and the Maritime Curators Group, the Unit will be lodged at the NMM. Co-location of the Unit at NMM was favoured by a majority of respondents who commented on location. However, in the advice that it gives, the Unit will be independent of the NMM.

  The Unit will be a sponsored body of DCMS overseen by an Advisory Board and Chair to be appointed by the Secretary of State. The Advisory Board will comprise experts and advisers drawn from across the historic ships, heritage management, commercial and industrial sectors. The Chair will report to the Secretary of State and will advise Government and the HLF on historic ships and raise public awareness of their significant contribution to our cultural and maritime heritage. During 2005 we will be consulting on the Advisory Board.

  DCMS, assisted by the NMM, will be responsible for the establishment and funding of the Unit as well as the creation of the Advisory Board. It will take time to create the Advisory Board (our target is April 2006) but in the interim the NMM will assist with the transition from the existing arrangements. With the funding that the Secretary of State has made available, this will enable the Unit to begin work, on an interim basis, in 2005.

  Ultimately, the Chair of the Unit will be responsible for delivering strategic and operational targets agreed with DCMS via a "Funding Agreement". In the interim, these aspects will be agreed with the NMM.

  Respondents to the consultation were generally in favour of a UK-wide remit for the Unit but agreed that how it should relate to the devolved administrations would need further discussion. DCMS has since consulted the devolved administrations and has agreed with them that the Unit will advise on the historic ships fleet in Scotland and Wales, as well as in England. The Northern Ireland Environment and Heritage Service have advised that it is not necessary to extend the Unit's brief to Northern Ireland, "as there are very few historic vessels in Northern Ireland" but have asked to receive copies of any general guidance produced by the Unit. The Unit's services would be available to Northern Ireland at their request.

  We envisage that the Unit will take over the functions of the National Historic Ships Committee. Under the interim arrangements, responsibility for the National Register of Historic Vessels will be transferred to the new Head of Unit once appointed. Administrative support currently provided to the National Historic Ships Committee by the NMM will be sustained until the longer-term arrangements are in place. The Director and staff of the NMM will remain available to advise and support the Unit for a period to be defined.

  Initially the Unit will have a core staff of three people—a Head of Unit, a Case Officer and a Unit Administrator who will also be responsible for administration and maintenance of the Register of Historic Vessels. The Head of Unit will report to the Advisory Board and the Chairman will report to the Secretary of State.

  The Unit will be funded by DCMS through grant-in-aid. A sum of £100,000 has been made available to establish the interim Unit in 2005-06, recruit its executives and enable some preparatory work to be undertaken. In 2006-07 this sum increases to £170,000 plus a further £80,000 which will be held by DCMS to provide for small revenue grants towards publications, research, training and similar activities, including preliminary studies into methods and effectiveness of conservation techniques. Respondents to the consultation were strongly in favour of the creation of a small grants fund. This further £80,000, which would be made available on a challenge basis, would benefit the historic ships community by helping to make information available, improving standards and encouraging best practice. The funding has been increased to meet inflation in 2007-08. However, it is not intended to support capital conservation projects.

  The new Unit will not take on responsibilities as a capital grant-giving body. Capital funding for historic ship projects will continue to be dealt with by the HLF and other public and private grant-giving bodies. However, the Unit will provide HLF with a valuable source of advice when considering bids from ships in the historic fleet.

STATUTORY LISTING OF HISTORIC SHIPS

  The majority of respondents who commented on the question of whether historic ships should be listed (61%) opposed the idea. They argued that listing would lead to excessive restrictions and costly requirements which are arguably unnecessary, in that major historic ships are for the most part already in the care of museums or trusts, that it would add little to the current National Register, and that the priority should be to update and complete the National Register of Historic Vessels rather than introduce a completely new system. We are not, therefore, planning to introduce the statutory listing of Historic Ships.

CONCLUSION

  We are pleased that, as a result of the allocation of resources, we can now proceed with the establishment of the National Historic Ships Unit. The Unit will provide a sharper focus on historic vessels, better access to trustees and owners for expertise and advice, valuable guidance to the HLF on applications for grants; and additional funding will be available to support research and assessment.

  

Annex A

INTRODUCTION

  1.  In Autumn 2003 we consulted on "Ships for the Nation", a paper setting out a Government policy for the preservation of historic ships and proposing the establishment of a National Historic Ships Unit to:

    —  advise the Secretary of State on policy and priorities for the sector as a whole

    —  co-ordinate work within the sector to assist those directly engaged in preservation; and

    —  promote public interest in historic ships as a key component of the maritime heritage.

  2.  We are grateful for the many valuable responses that we received from a wide range of contributors.

  3. In response to this consultation we have decided that an independent National Historic Ships Unit will be established and, following the 2004 Spending Review, funding is now in place to support this. The Unit's primary responsibilities will be to:

    —  provide leadership and strategic vision across the historic ships community;

    —  continue to maintain an authoritative and up-to-date register of the historic fleet, including the maintenance and updating of the National Register of Historic Ships and the development and monitoring of an "At Risk" register;

    —  provide the primary source of advice to Government on national ship preservation and funding priorities, monitoring practice in other countries;

    —  encourage a better understanding of the real life-costs of restoring and maintaining historic vessels;

    —  advise Heritage Lottery Fund (HLF) on preservation priorities and on individual funding bids for historic ships made to HLF and advise other public funding bodies;

    —  develop and promote professional standards of good practice for the conservation and restoration of historic vessels, providing advice to trusts and owners on good practice and on fund-raising opportunities and promoting and making available to the public research into ship preservation and conservation techniques;

    —  provide guidance and advice to trusts and owners on business planning and interpretation to make ships become more self-sustaining and attractive to new audiences;

    —  improve the availability and standard of ship and boat conservation skills and training, and sharing of experience and expertise across the sector;

    —  advise on documentation and recording techniques in cases where vessels are beyond physical and economic preservation;

    —  promote the case for historic ships to a wider audience, preparing publicity for historic ships, eg a national website and other published material; and

    —  compile a register of firms and individuals capable of offering potential conservation skills, and promote opportunities for people to develop and maintain traditional ship building and ship repairing skills.

  The work of the core funded Unit will be backed up by a programme of small grants, (most likely administered by DCMS) to promote DCMS objectives in the sector, to promote the wider use of conservation plans and to sponsor research.

  4.  The Historic Ships Unit will be housed at the National Maritime Museum (NMM) but will be independent of it. Its remit will cover England, Scotland and Wales. Northern Ireland wishes to receive copies of guidance produced by the Unit. The Unit's services would be available to Northern Ireland at their request. Our expectation is that the Unit will begin to operate on an interim basis during 2005-06 and will be fully up and running by 1 April 2006 when the new funding from the Spending Review comes on stream. We envisage that it will take over the functions of the National Historic Ships Committee (NHSC). The Unit will be overseen by an Advisory Board. During 2005 we shall be consulting on the establishment of the Advisory Board.

THE CONSULTATION

  5. Almost 100 responses to the consultation paper were received, over 70 from a wide range of interested organisations in the maritime sector and about 20 from individuals. This report looks in turn at the responses to each of the eight questions set out in paragraph 9.1 of the consultation paper, but takes the questions in a slightly different order. Where similar comments were made in response to more than one question, they are recorded only once in this report.

Question 1:   Would the creation of a National Historic Ships Unit be an effective way of helping the historic ships sector co-ordinate its work better and identify priorities more clearly?

Consultation Feedback

  6.  Just over 70% of all respondents who answered the first question were clearly in favour of the creation of a National Historic Ships Unit (NHSU). A further 20% of responses supported the idea, but with some qualifications. About 9% opposed the creation of a NHSU.

  7.  The main qualifications made by the second group were the following:

    (i)  Is it absolutely clear that the creation of a new Unit would be better than beefing up an existing body or amalgamating existing bodies? Should the possibility of widening the remit of the National Historic Ships Committee (NHSC), or Heritage Afloat, and giving them appropriate financial support, be considered instead? This point was effectively answered by a comment from the National Maritime Museum—that with direct responsibility to the Secretary of State and the DCMS, and with new core funding, the Unit would have an authority and strategic overview previously beyond the remit of the NHSC.

    (ii)  To be successful, a NHSU would need staff with recognised expertise covering the whole sector: whether a body of the size proposed could do this must be doubtful; it would probably need to be supported by expert sub-groups and possibly an Advisory Board.

    (iii)  It would be important for a NHSU to engage fully with small craft and not become preoccupied with the preservation of large ships: to make this possible, one of its key priorities would have to be the extension of the National Register of Historic Vessels (NRHV) to include vessels below the current cut-off.

    (iv)  The sector would not welcome a NHSU if it was the harbinger of greater regulation.

Question 2:   Are there alternative approaches which should be considered?

Consultation Feedback

  8.  The main points made by those opposed to the creation of a NHSU were that the sector is far too wide-ranging and diverse for one small Unit to be able to perform all the functions proposed for it; that it would be better to go for improved co-ordination of existing lead bodies, or to work through the new regional hubs; and that the funding proposed for a NHSU would be better spent on the repair and maintenance of historic vessels.

  9.  It was suggested that a NHSU should be located "close to the heart of Government", with the NHSC retained and possibly enhanced. However, another comment was that "expansion of the NHSC is not a solution", and that creation of a NHSU would throw into doubt the continued raison d'étre of the NHSC. Some respondents stressed the need for a national NHSU to have an effective regional organisation (not necessarily of its own creation, but by working through existing agencies).

  10.  It was suggested that it would be very important for a NHSU to maintain a balanced interest in both large ships and small craft, and not let one part of the sector overshadow another: similarly, it would need to ensure that the interests of both maritime and inland waterways craft were fully recognised. It was suggested that only a full-time professional Unit would be capable of updating the NRHV and extending it to smaller craft, and it would be part of the benefit of having a NHSU that it could put the work of the NHSC on to a more secure footing.

  11.  The NHSC's submission is very supportive of the idea of creating a NHSU, and expresses the hope that the NHSU will be able to build on the approach developed by the NHSC so far: "there are certainly elements of the NHSC which could be easily transferred and utilised within the proposed new Unit". English Heritage comment that although it will be very important for the new Unit to build on the huge store of experience and goodwill existing within the NHSC, most if not all of the role of the NHSC will be duplicated in the new Unit (were NHSC to continue).

  12.  Points which would need to be looked at in more detail were:

    (a)  The creation of expert sub-groups to support the small full-time staff of the NHSU: this seems an excellent idea and one that the NHSU can follow up after its creation;

    (b)  The implications of devolution: there seemed general agreement that the Unit should have a UK-wide remit, but exactly how it should relate to the devolved administrations will need further discussion: the suggestion that the overseeing committee should have on it representatives of all four UK administrations seems very sensible;

    (c)  Again, it seems a sensible idea that the Unit should have some sort of regional network: it should be possible to find a museum or a historic ship in each region which could take a leading role (assuming this would be consistent with the Renaissance in the Regions "regional hubs" initiative).

    (d)  Arrangements for the appointment of the overseeing committee or advisory board (presumably by the Secretary of State) need to be spelt out.

Question 3:   Does the structure proposed for the NHSU sound right?

Consultation Feedback

  13.  Most respondents felt that the structure proposed for the Unit was sensible. But several respondents felt that there is a risk that the NHSU, if located in a museum, would be too closely embedded in the museum/academic world. It would be important for the Unit to have good links with the commercial world, to ensure an adequate understanding of the issues facing commercial operators of historic ships.

  14.  It would also be important for the Unit to have access to practical knowledge of the problems of restoring, maintaining and running historic ships. Some respondents suggested that this would be much more important than museums' expertise in handling ships as museum objects.

  15.  On appointments and staffing issues, the following points were made:

    (a)  The sector would not welcome a NHSU if it were the harbinger of an increase in regulation.

    (b)  The suggestion that the chair of the overseeing committee should be appointed by and should advise and report to the Secretary of State, was generally welcomed, though it was felt that the chair would also have a role in advising the heritage agencies.

    (c)  Arrangements for appointing members of the overseeing committee would need to be more clearly defined.

    (d)  The Unit would be operating in a very wide and varied field: to cover the ground adequately it would either need to be bigger than proposed, or it would need to set up panels of experts in particular areas to which it could look for advice; it would also need to maintain strong links with boat communities.

    (e)  The overseeing committee would need to include someone with expertise in handling the media; the staff of the Unit should include a maritime historian, a technical project officer (to disseminate good tendering practice), and someone with experience of business planning and fundraising.

Question 6:   Where should the Unit be located?

Consultation Feedback

  16.  Of those who expressed an opinion on location, a substantial majority favoured co-locating the Unit with the National Maritime Museum (NMM) at Greenwich. It was felt that there would be great advantages in the Unit's being able to draw on the expertise of the NMM.

  17.  The other two sites that were favoured by a significant minority were Merseyside and Portsmouth. Merseyside was seen as having the advantage of historic links with both the maritime and the inland waterways worlds, and having museums dealing with both, as well as being nationally more central than Greenwich. Portsmouth was seen as a centre that would enable the Unit to keep in close touch with the practical aspects of ship preservation, as well as offering access to important archives and other facilities in the Solent region.

  18.  Other possible locations suggested by other respondents were: Bristol, Glasgow, Newcastle, Sunderland, Hartlepool, Hull, Lowestoft, Gloucester, Southampton, Swindon and the Science Museum in London. Another possibility might be to locate the Unit in a historic ship. It was suggested that choice of a site should take account of the new "regional museum hubs" framework established in the nine English regions following the Renaissance in the Regions report of 2001.

  19.  Some respondents suggested that if listing of historic vessels were to be introduced, it would be sensible to co-locate the Unit with English Heritage.

  20.  A minority of respondents were strongly against the idea of locating the Unit with the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich. They argued that Greenwich is not nationally central, nor particularly easy to reach; that the NMM has shown very little interest in the practical aspects of ship preservation; that there would be a strong risk of a maritime bias in the Unit's work; and that (unlike some other museums) the NMM does not have good links with the many private owners of historic vessels.

  21.  Most responses favoured the Greenwich option put forward in the consultation paper. However, a good case was also made for Merseyside, and it may be worth looking at options for developing a regional outstation in Merseyside, for the following reasons:

    (a)  Merseyside would be geographically more central for the UK as a whole.

    (b)  Merseyside offers the possibility of linking the Unit with both a maritime museum and an inland waterways museum: Greenwich offers only the former, and there was quite a lot of concern in the responses that the Unit should take a balanced interest in both areas.

    (c)  The NMM at Greenwich is said to be a little remote from practitioners generally: a Merseyside out-station might be able to establish closer links with the sector.

    (d)  More generally, too many units of this kind are based solely in London and it would be good if this one could establish a presence in a regional centre.

Question 4:   Does the list of functions proposed for the new Unit sound right? Are there others which should be considered?

Consultation Feedback

  22.  In general, respondents thought the list of functions proposed for the NHSU in paragraph 7.3 of the consultation paper was reasonable, though some commented that it was ambitious. The following further comments were made.

  23.  It was suggested that more emphasis should be placed on the role which the Unit could play as co-ordinator of the work of other agencies as it impinges on the world of historic ships. This would use the Unit's limited resources to best effect and avoid risks of overlap. The Unit should seek to establish close links not only with other maritime and inland waterways bodies, but with the main heritage and tourism agencies, and also act as co-ordinator of Government policy as it affects historic ships, monitoring the unintended effects which new legislation can sometimes have on the sector.

  24.  It would be very helpful if the Unit could offer the HLF some strategic guidance on funding priorities, rather than simply advising ad hoc on individual applications. It would also be helpful if the Unit could give advice to other potential grant givers besides the HLF.

  25.  Other points made were:

    (i)  It would be helpful if the Unit could provide information on sources of specialist materials, and on repair and docking facilities;

    (ii)  The Unit should be able to give ship owners guidance on the management and development of volunteers;

    (iii)  It should aim to develop a code of best practice on the repair, maintenance and management of historic ships (drawing on material available elsewhere, eg in the United States) and should cover such matters as fire safety;

    (iv)  The new Unit should be well placed to encourage organisations to work more effectively across the sector. Experience gained from the UK Maritime Collections Strategy has demonstrated the benefits to be obtained from a national network co-ordinating collecting policies, sharing expertise and working towards a potential rationalisation of collections.

  26.  It was pointed out that there is already a Conservation Register, maintained by the UK Institute for Conservation, which includes details of many firms offering specialist conservation skills. The Institute would be happy to collaborate with the new Unit to enhance the usefulness of the list for historic ship preservation. The Unit might also be able to build on work already being done in the historic aircraft sector to maintain traditional skills.

Question 5:   Would a small grants fund have a useful role to play?

Consultation Feedback

  27.  An overwhelming majority of respondents favoured the creation of a small grants fund. They saw the fund as likely to be particularly valuable for the encouragement of conservation planning and best practice, for promoting educational projects and improved display arrangements, and as "seed" money for securing more substantial finance from the business and banking sectors.

  28.  It was emphasised that the fund should be more than a token fund, and should be genuinely new money—the larger the fund, the better. It would be important to think out the relationship of any small grants fund to HLF funding for ships.

  29.  There was a difference of view on whether the fund should be used to assist individual restoration projects. One comment was that it would be better to use a small pot of money to fund research and other work of general application, rather than deal with specific projects. Others suggested that funding should be available for emergency work, and for work that would prevent serious and costly deterioration.

  30.  A comment made by several respondents was that the creation of a small grants fund would be no substitute for addressing the substantive capital and revenue funding issues. Government should acknowledge that it must tackle the funding problems of the major historic ships.

  31.  Of the very few respondents who did not favour the creation of a small grants fund, two were particularly notable. English Heritage commented that a grants programme would be too hungry of manpower for the size of Unit envisaged, and that the Unit's resources would be better devoted to advising and influencing other grant-givers. EH suggested that the NHSU should simply have some budget provision for commissioning work from researchers and other specialists. Another view was that the scale of demand for funding would be too large a burden for a small Unit, and might deflect it from activities that would have a much greater long-term benefit for the preservation of historic ships. Any funding available should be targeted at commissioning work to identify and promote exemplars of best practice.

  32.  There was strong support for a small grants fund. However, some comments suggested that it would be important to define the scope of the fund very clearly. As envisaged in the consultation paper, it will be important to make clear that the fund's purpose is to support research, education and other "exemplary" projects, but not to fund straightforward ship repair and maintenance. A small grants programme could be established for, say, a three-year period, administered by the Unit.

Question 7:   Should statutory listing of historic ships be introduced?

Consultation Feedback

  33.  Of those who commented directly on the listing issue, about 61% were opposed to statutory listing and some 39% in favour.

  34.  The main virtue of listing was seen as protection of vessels against neglect or maltreatment—protection which, it was suggested, was quite as important as for historic buildings. Several of those in favour of listing suggested that only the most important vessels (those in the current "core collection" and some ships currently excluded on grounds of origin) should be listed, and that care should be taken to avoid over-rigid controls over owners. One suggestion was that listing would be more appropriate to inland waterways vessels than to maritime vessels, because of the close association of the former with particular historic buildings and areas.

  35.  Those who opposed listing felt that it would set a tone that would be authoritative and intimidating, and would be well beyond the resources of a Unit of the size proposed. There was concern that listing would lead to excessive restrictions and costly requirements, which are arguably unnecessary, given that major historic ships are for the most part already in the care of museums or trusts. But in general, the mobility of many ships was not seen as a crucial obstacle to the introduction of a listing system.

  36.  Several of those who opposed statutory listing suggested that it would add little to the current National Register, and that the priority should be to update and complete the NRHV rather than introduce a completely new system. Another suggestion was that it might be better to develop a minimum standards scheme (with certification), along the lines of museum registration.

  37.  One respondent suggested that it was more important to give protection to land-based facilities, such as historic docks and moorings, which are fast being destroyed. Another suggested that a non-statutory list, like that for historic parks and gardens, might be the best approach.

  38.  Several of those who did not express a clear view on the issue suggested that further review of the options was needed, either in the context of the Heritage Protection Review (since the treatment of other moveable objects should be considered at the same time), or by the new NHSU once set up.

Question 8:   Are there any important issues relating to the preservation of historic ships that you feel are not addressed by these proposals?

Consultation Feedback

  39.  The following general comments were made.

Skills

  40.  Stress was placed on the need to preserve specialist skills and to provide training so that younger people can acquire such skills. It was suggested that major ships should host training programmes for trainee craftsmen; and that the NHSU would need to act to preserve and create appropriate locations for expert ship repair—heritage workshops, docking facilities, etc.

Standards

  41.  It was suggested that the NHSU would have an important role to play in promoting appropriate standards of conservation, as distinct from the sort of restoration that leads to the creation of replicas or pastiches. It would be important to respect local expertise in matters of ship repair and maintenance.

Register

  42.  It was suggested that a more proactive approach was needed than simply listing known historic craft, ie identifying the types of ships that ought to be preserved and then conducting a systematic worldwide search for extant examples. Similarly, modern naval vessels should be identified for preservation as they are decommissioned—an approach already adopted for historic aircraft.

Tourism potential

  43.  It was suggested that many local councils fail to appreciate the potential value of historic craft have as tourist attractions. The NHSU would need to promote ships with councils as a way of securing their preservation.

Inland waterways

  44.  Several respondents expressed concern that the importance of the inland waterways and their craft to the national heritage is still not fully recognised. It was suggested that on present trends, the loss of several hundred historic canal craft over the next few years would be inevitable.

Vessels at risk

  45.  It was suggested that it would be helpful to introduce a "vessels at risk" register, similar to that for historic buildings, to draw attention to the plight of threatened ships and if possible to ways of rescuing them.

Administrative issues

  46.  It was suggested that the new Unit should have unequivocal UK-wide responsibilities, with representatives on its committee from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland: the implications of devolution for the working of the new Unit needed to be more fully thought out. The Unit's remit should include British owned historic vessels from any country of origin. Close working would be needed with English Heritage's archaeology section, to determine responsibilities for historic ships recovered as wrecks.

Finance/Funding

  47.  It was suggested that it will be important for the new Unit to address the case for financial relief for historic ship owners, eg relief from VAT, from business rates and from harbour dues.

  48.  Several respondents made the point that proposal of a new administrative mechanism is in their view no substitute for willingness to address the basic issue, which is lack of funding for the repair and maintenance of historic ships. Government should address this issue more directly, since no large ship can hope to survive on visitor income alone.

Sea Britain 2005

  49.  It was suggested that it would be particularly appropriate if any new initiative could be announced in time for the celebrations planned for 2005.

THE RESPONSE TO THE CONSULTATION ON HISTORIC SHIPS

  50. We are most grateful for the many positive and constructive responses that we received to the consultation paper. Since the consultation concluded we have been working to secure funding through the 2004 Spending Review to enable our response. Now that the Spending Review is complete the funding has been secured and we can confirm that DCMS will establish and sponsor a National Historic Ships Unit, a proposal supported by a majority of respondents.

Remit

  51.  The primary responsibilities of the Unit will be to:

    —  Provide leadership and strategic vision across the historic ships community.

    —  Continue to maintain an authoritative and up-to-date register of the historic fleet. This will include the maintenance and updating of the National Register of Historic Ships and the development and monitoring of an "At Risk" register.

    —  Provide the primary source of advice to Government on policy on national ship preservation and funding priorities, monitoring practice in other countries.

    —  Encourage a better understanding of the real life-costs of restoring and maintaining historic vessels.

    —  Advise the HLF on preservation priorities and on individual funding bids for historic ships made to the HLF and advise other public funding bodies.

    —  Develop and promote professional standards of good practice for the conservation and restoration of historic vessels, providing advice to trusts and owners on good practice and on fund-raising opportunities and promoting and making available to the public research into ship preservation and conservation techniques.

    —  Provide guidance and advice to trusts and owners on business planning (including sources of funding) and interpretation techniques designed to makes ships become more self-sustaining and more attractive to new audiences.

    —  Improve the availability and standard of ship and boat conservation skills and training and the sharing of expertise across the sector.

    —  Advise on documentation and recording techniques in cases where vessels are beyond physical and economic preservation.

    —  Promote the case for historic ships to a wider audience, preparing publicity for historic ships, eg a national website and other published material.

    —  Compile a register of firms and individuals capable of offering potential conservation skills, and promote opportunities for people to develop and maintain traditional ship building and ship repairing skills.

  The Unit's work will be supplemented by a programme of small grants—most likely administered by DCMS—to promote DCMS objectives in the sector, the wider use of conservation plans and to sponsor research. We would encourage owners applying for HLF and other public grants to register first with the Unit.

Constitution

  52.  For purposes of administrative efficiency and to facilitate access to expert advice, to the UK Maritime Collections Strategy and the Maritime Curators Group the Unit will be lodged at the National Maritime Museum (NMM). Co-location of the Unit at NMM was favoured by a majority of respondents who commented on location. However, in the advice that it gives, the Unit will be independent of the NMM. The Unit will be a sponsored body of DCMS, overseen by an Advisory Board and Chair to be appointed by the Secretary of State. The Advisory Board will comprise experts and advisers drawn from across the historic ships, heritage management, commercial and industrial sectors. The Chair will report to the Secretary of State and will advise Government and the HLF on historic ships and raise public awareness of their significant contribution to our cultural and maritime heritage. During 2005 we will be consulting on the Advisory Board.

  53.  DCMS, assisted by the NMM will be responsible for the establishment and funding of the Unit as well as the creation of the Advisory Board. It will take time to create the Advisory Board (our target is April 2006) but in the interim, the NMM will assist in the transition from the existing arrangements. With the funding that the Secretary of State has made available this will enable the Unit to begin work, on an interim basis, in 2005.

  54.  Ultimately, the Chair of the Unit will be responsible for delivering strategic and operational targets agreed with DCMS via a "Funding Agreement". In the interim, these aspects will be agreed with the NMM.

  55.  Respondents were generally in favour of a UK-wide remit for the Unit but agreed that how it should relate to the devolved administrations would need further discussion. DCMS has since consulted the devolved administrations and has agreed with them that the Unit will advise on the historic ships fleet in Scotland and Wales, as well as in England. The Northern Ireland Environment and Heritage Service have advised that it is not necessary to extend the Unit's brief to Northern Ireland, "as there are very few historic vessels in Northern Ireland" but have asked to receive copies of any general guidance produced by the Unit. The Unit's services would be available to Northern Ireland at their request.

  56.  We envisage that the Unit will take over the functions of the National Historic Ships Committee. Under the interim arrangements, responsibility for the National Register of Historic Vessels will be transferred to the new Head of Unit once appointed. Administrative support currently provided to the National Historic Ships Committee by the NMM will be sustained, until the longer term arrangements are in place. The Director and staff of the NMM will remain available to advise and support the Unit for a period to be defined.

Structure

  57.  Initially the Unit will have a core staff of three people—a Head of Unit, a Case Officer and a Unit Administrator who would also be responsible for administration and maintenance of the Register of Historic Vessels. The Head of Unit will report to the Advisory Board and the Chairman will report to the Secretary of State.

Funding

  58.  The Unit will be funded by DCMS through grant-in-aid. A sum of £100,000 has been made available to establish the interim Unit in 2005-06, recruit its executives and enable some preparatory work to be undertaken. In 2006-07 this sum increases to £170,000 plus a further £80,000 which will be held by DCMS to provide for small revenue grants towards publications, research, training and similar activities, including preliminary studies into methods and effectiveness of conservation techniques. Respondents were strongly in favour of the creation of a small grants fund. This further £80,000, which would be made available on a challenge basis, would benefit the historic ships community by helping to make information available, improving standards and encouraging best practice. The funding has been increased to meet inflation in 2007-08. However, it is not intended to support capital conservation projects.

  59.  The new Unit will not take on responsibilities as a capital grant-giving body. Capital funding for historic ship projects will continue to be dealt with by the HLF and other public and private grant-giving bodies. However, the Unit will provide HLF with a valuable source of advice when considering bids from ships in the historic fleet.

Statutory listing of historic ships

  60.  The majority of respondents who commented on the question of whether Historic Ships should be listed (61%) opposed the idea. They argued that listing would lead to excessive restrictions and costly requirements which are, arguably unnecessary, in that major historic ships are for the most part already in the care of museums or trusts, that it would add little to the current National Register, and that the priority should be to update and complete the National Register of Historic Vessels rather than introduce a completely new system. We are not, therefore, planning to introduce the statutory listing of Historic Ships.

GENERAL CONCLUSION

  61.  We are grateful to all of you who have waited so patiently for our response to the consultation. As you made clear from the start, the availability of resources would be a key to determining what we would be able to do and we took the view that we should not make our formal response until we knew whether and to what extent resources would be available. The allocation of funding was confirmed in December 2004. We are pleased that, as a result we can now proceed with the establishment of the Historic Ships Unit. The Unit will provide a sharper focus on historic vessels, better access to trustees and owners for expertise and advice, valuable guidance to the HLF on applications for grant; and additional funding will be available to support research and assessment.

13 January 2005





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