Select Committee on Education and Skills Minutes of Evidence


Memorandum submitted by Rt Hon Ruth Kelly MP, Secretary of State, Department for Education and Skills (WDFES 03)

  When I appeared before your Committee on 2 March there were a number of issues I said I would follow up and having read the draft transcript there are also a couple of points I think it would be helpful for me to clarify.

  We discussed the reduction in the size of my Department and in fact, by 21 February 2005, the number of staff in the Department had reduced by 562 FTE from our baseline of 4,660 FTE.

  On pensions communication, as I said, there is widespread recognition of an urgent need to get clear, factual information addressing myths and misinformation about pension reform to all public sector workers. In education this is being achieved through an e-mail to all schools, colleges and universities and providing a web link to a pensions information microsite on the Teachernet website. This will go out after the Easter break. There is already helpful Q and A briefing about pensions on this website as well as more detailed information about the proposed scheme changes.

  This has been complemented by an article on pensions (refuting misleading information put out by the teacher unions) in the March edition of "Teachers" magazine, which is sent to 250,000 teachers at their home address with an additional 100,000 distributed through schools. In addition, a programme about pensions has been broadcast on Teachers TV, a dedicated channel for teachers, funded by the Department. In the longer term we will use a number of complementary channels to carry a sustained campaign on this issue. This could include further articles in "Teachers" magazine (the next issue is published in May) as well as e-mail prompts to visit the pensions site on Teachernet. We will also be sponsoring (with the Prudential) a supplement in TES in May, which highlights the positives in some of the scheme changes proposed.

  We discussed "setting" of pupils in schools. The latest data from Ofsted, via their section 10 inspections, re-confirms our understanding about setting in schools ie the level of setting increases as pupils progress from primary to secondary, with over a third of lessons being set in secondary schools as a whole. Given the difficulties in making year-on-year comparisons due to changes in Ofsted's recording and reporting, the amount of setting at Key Stage 3 and Key Stage 4 over time broadly remains the same.

  In 2003-04, like previous years, the incidence of setting increases throughout Key Stage 3 from 26% of lessons in Year 7 to 43% in Year 9, and then in Key Stage 4 falls to 33% in Year 10 and 35% in Year 11. However, the amount of setting varies from subject to subject with the core subjects of English, mathematics and science being the most commonly set subjects in schools. The incidence of setting increases in the core subjects from Key Stage 2 to Key Stage 4, for example reaching 92% in mathematics by Key Stage 4.

  Nothing in the latest evidence seems to suggest a new departure from our current approach that school managers should use their own professional judgement to determine for themselves how, or if at all, to adopt setting. That approach is leading over time to some gradual increases in the incidence of setting as reported by Ofsted, particularly at Key Stage 3. However, setting is only one of many ways in which teachers can tailor teaching and learning to meet the needs of pupils. For example, teachers can use within-class grouping, small group work and the support of an additional adult in the classroom as well as varying pace and teaching strategies to tailor teaching.

  I can confirm that the last available data shows that, of the young, full-time entrants to HE in 2001, some 17% had vocational qualifications.

  I told you that we would publish our implementation proposals for our 14-19 reforms, we plan to do that after the summer break.

  You asked me about the performance of pupils in sixth forms. The Department publishes a number of measures on the overall achievements of 16-18 year old A level students. The table below summarises these indicators of each of the sectors in 2004 and 2003. These show sector variations in average point score per candidate, average point score per entry, the proportion of candidates achieving 2 or more passes and the proportion achieving 3 or more A grades.

2004
Average point
score per
candidate
Average point
score per
entry
% of candidates
achieving 2 or
more passes
% of candidates
achieving 3 or
more A grades
Maintained school sixth forms271.9 77.593.57.7
Independent schools353.0 96.597.125.8
Sixth Form Colleges280.7 77.094.57.1
General FE Colleges186.7 67.881.42.2
All schools and colleges269.2 78.792.09.0

Source: Extract from Statistical First Release "GCE VCE A/AS Examination Results for Young People in England 2003-04 (Revised)"

2003
Average point
score per
candidate
Average point
score per
entry
% of candidates
achieving 2 or
more passes
% of candidates
achieving 3 or
more A grades
Maintained school sixth forms265.3 76.892.37.3
Independent schools351.6 95.997.124.7
Sixth Form Colleges273.8 76.193.36.6
General FE Colleges169.0 64.474.91.8
All schools and colleges258.9 77.489.78.3

Source: Extract from Statistical First Release "GCE VCE A/AS Examination Results for Young People in England 2002-03 (Revised)"

  The Committee asked about the risk of EU students not repaying loans once they return to their home countries and the potential impact of this on Universities. Concern was also expressed about increased numbers of EU students applying, making the competition for places more difficult for UK students.

  Let me first answer the question about competition for university places. Around 6% of undergraduate places in English HEIs go to non-EU overseas students and around 3% of places are taken up by students from EU countries.

  Our universities have already demonstrated they can handle substantial expansion without having to restrict opportunities for UK students and we have no reason to believe this will not continue. Over the six years to 2003-04, the number of non-EU overseas students studying at English HEIs has increased from 49,432 to 96,287 and the number of EU students has in fact decreased from 40,411 to 40,216. But over the same period, the number of UK domiciled entrants continued to increase from 492,045 to 581,549.

  As the Committee acknowledged, higher education in the UK benefits from the increased diversity of the student body provided by overseas and EU students. At the same time, higher education institutions benefit from the fee income which overseas students bring, and the economy more widely benefits from overseas students' spending on living and other costs.

  As regards EU undergraduate students, the Government is required, under Article 12 of the EC Treaty to provide tuition fee support for EU nationals in a way that does not discriminate against EU students compared with UK nationals. However the question of loan repayment is, as yet, theoretical. At present, the Government contributes to the tuition fees of some EU students where their income, or that of their family, is low, but that contribution is not repayable, and will cease when the new arrangements for tuition fees come into force from 2006-07. From 2006-07, EU students will become eligible for a tuition fee loan. The fee will be paid by the Student Loans Company (SLC), on behalf of the Government, directly to the higher education institution where the EU student is studying.

  A Higher Education Policy Institute report last year indicated that up to 25% of EU students remain and work in the UK after graduation: for those that do, loan repayments will be through the Inland Revenue's PAYE system, at the rate of 9% earnings above the relevant threshold, exactly the same as for home students. For those who move abroad, the SLC has well established mechanisms (used for UK students who move to other EU countries) to secure repayments from students, including use of trace agents as necessary, but the volumes at present are relatively low. Working with the SLC, we will ensure that processes are sufficiently robust for repayments due to be made by EU students from 2008 onwards.

  I hope this is helpful.

29 March 2005





 
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