Select Committee on Environmental Audit Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 77 - 79)

WEDNESDAY 23 JUNE 2004

COUNCILLOR DAVID SPARKS OBE, MR DAVID WOODS, MR MARTIN BACON AND MR LEE SEARLES

  Q77  Chairman: Good afternoon. I hope you do not mind starting a little early but it would be helpful to us to get cracking on this. Thank you also for the memorandum which you submitted. It is quite clear from the memorandum that you are not entirely happy with some of the conclusions of the Barker review. Do you accept the main conclusion that to decrease house price inflation we need to increase supply?

  Mr Searles: There is obviously a relationship between house price and supply. However, there needs to be more debate on what the Barker review has hinted at before we leap into policy solutions which we might regret. I think we feel that there are issues around utilising the existing supply which would be a factor in that argument. There is an issue about the effects of recent trends resulting from the relatively recent change in PPG3 which led to an emphasis on brownfield land and the effect that might have had on dampening permissions for new housing. Another relatively recent effect is the buy-to-let phenomenon and investment in property and the whole atmosphere that is created around the view that property is an investment. I think whilst we are not saying that they are definitive reasons in themselves, there are enough other factors that play a part in determining and influencing the price/supply equation.

  Q78  Chairman: Are you saying that if you increase supply you do have an impact on prices but that the Barker solution is not the one that you would like to see; there are other ways of doing this.

  Mr Searles: Yes. Obviously there is a need to increase supply and there is a relationship between price and supply but it is by no means the only part of the story and it needs to be a much more sophisticated response than that recommended by Barker.

  Q79  Chairman: Many of Barker's recommendations seem to jeopardise the role of local planning authorities in controlling and ordering development. How do you respond to those recommendations?

  Mr Sparks: As far as that is concerned, this is a major area that we are dissatisfied with in relation to the report which is entirely consistent with our overall position. Essentially what we are concerned about is that we, as local authorities, have had to review how we operate fundamentally over the past ten years or so. We do not wish to repeat the mistakes of the past. We know that 30 years ago, when there was a lot more coordination, a lot more control, a lot more resources, we still managed to create some absolute nightmares and disasters in terms of housing development that we do not wish to repeat. One of our biggest concerns about the current debate as it is currently portrayed is that you could just look at the quantitative aspects of the problem and end up repeating the mistakes of the past with insufficient investment in infrastructure. One final point on that, what we did not have thirty years ago was the concern about sustainability to the extent we now have and we are genuinely bothered about the need for any development to be sustainable, especially in relation to housing.


 
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