Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Memorandum submitted by the Association of Chief Police Officers of England, Wales and Northern Ireland (ACPO)

  I write on behalf of the Association of Chief Police Officers of England, Wales and Northern Ireland (ACPO) in my capacity as the senior police officer with responsibility for wildlife and environmental crime matters. You should therefore take this response to be the official position of the whole police service in England and Wales.

1.  EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

1.1  The police service in England and Wales warmly welcomes the Bill, which is badly needed. However, we have problems with the drafting. The police position is that we do accept a responsibility to deal with cruelty and fighting—we do not see welfare as our problem The current draft Bill does not achieve this separation.

  1.2  The position of the RSPCA is unclear in the Bill, and our suggestion of creating an accreditation regime to enable them to operate has unfortunately not been taken up.

2.  CLAUSES 1 AND 2

  We are content with the thrust of these Clauses. However as presented the use, for example, of a terrier dog in a fox earth, or a ferret being used to kill rabbits would amount to offence under Clause 2(1). I suggest that an exemption be added to these clauses making it clear that such activities remain lawful—unless of course it is the government's intention to make them illegal.

3.  CLAUSE 3

  We welcome the introduction of the welfare offence.

4.  CLAUSES 11-14

  4.1  The powers here apply to proposed offences under Clauses 1, 2 and 3. You may be not aware that the police service's formal position is that while we accept a need for continued involvement in cruelty and fighting offences, welfare is not directly our concern. This position has been put in writing and debated at some length with Defra officials so it is with some concern that I read Clauses 11-14.

  4.2  As drafted, these Clauses included both welfare and cruelty and will cause the police to have to deal with welfare offences. This we are not prepared to do without a clear instruction from government that animal welfare is indeed our duty. We have had no such indication to date.

  4.3  In practice the bulk of this work is in fact done by the RSPCA, and I believe that it is Defra's intention that this continues. However I am disappointed that our proposal (to create an accreditation scheme similar to that used by the Home Office and DfT) has not been adopted. This leaves the RSPCA powerless to act without police assistance—which is not likely to be forthcoming, given our view that welfare is not generally a police matter.

  4.4  Clause 11(3)

  The timescale at 11(3)(a) of eight days is far too short to be practicable, and requiring the police to ask for an extension (Clause 11(5)) again causes us to get dragged back into welfare matters.

  4.5  Clause 14(4)

  It is unhelpful to restrict Inspectors' powers. This will simply encourage local authorities not to provide a 24 hour service and leave matters to the police who will, as stated, be reluctant to deal with welfare cases.

5.  CLAUSE 21(1)

  This clause allows seizure of animals if an arrest has taken place. It should be amended to when an offence has taken place (or is reasonably suspected); an arrest is not always going to occur.

6.  CLAUSE 21(2)

  Exactly the same issue as Clause 11(3) above.

7.  CLAUSE 25(4)

  An offence of failing to deliver an animal subject of a deprivation order should be considered.

8.  CLAUSE 28(5)

  An offence of failing to deliver an animal subject of an order of disqualification should be considered.

9.  CLAUSE 39(1)

  The reference to "reasonable time" should be omitted. Offences of this type occur at unreasonable times by their very nature, and evidence has to be gathered at the earliest opportunity.

10.  CLAUSE 39(3)

  The power of entry under Clause 3 should not extend to constables—but this issue is intimately linked to my concerns about Clauses 11-14.

11.  CLAUSE 40(4)

  This Clause should be deleted in accordance with my comments in relation to Clause 14(4).

Richard Brunstrom

Chief Constable/Prif Gwnstabl

20 August 2004





 
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