Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Written Evidence


Memorandum submitted by Jim Clubb, Director, Heythrop Zoological Gardens Ltd

GENERAL

  On the whole the Bill will bring into place regulations and laws that I and the bodies I have been involved with, Animal Consultants and Trainers Association and Association of Circus Proprietors, support. I believe that, generally speaking, the Bill will benefit serious animal institutions, the general public and animals. However, I am concerned with certain areas that need to be better clarified and others which I can see might cause future problems in our democratic society.

CLAUSE 1

  Subsection 2: How can we police our own employees? I agree that a company has some level of responsibility for its employees. Company policy on Animal Welfare and Animal Welfare in accordance with the law should be made clear to all employees from the beginning of their employment. However, larger institutions would find it difficult to supervise their employees at all times. In fact, there are documented cases of Animal Rights groups who use infiltrators to create Animal Welfare problems in order bring a company into disrepute. I give Berosini v PeTA, in Baltimore USA 1981 as a famous example of such an episode.

  Subsection 4: Will mutilation constitute castration and spaying performed for non-medical reasons by veterinary surgeons? Both of these operations are necessary to control the population of species in captivity and also aggression in species ie the forming of all male groups. We have found that vasectomies, although an effective method to control breeding, does not cure the aggression issue. Therefore I believe castration, even if not performed for strictly medical reasons, benefits Animal Welfare.

CLAUSE 13

  Subsection 2 (a) and Subsection 3: I believe all animal institutions need an assurance that all inspectors and constables are qualified and experienced in the care and disposal of animals. There is nothing in the clause to say that an inspector or constable should destroy an animal humanely. This needs to be addressed. In a worse case scenario we could have an inexperienced person making unqualified judgement over the fate of animal, and then destroying the said animal in unnecessarily inhumane fashion, all within the confines of the law.

ANNEX A

  Paragraph 1: I am in direct opposition to the RSPCA' s proposed ban of all animal circuses. I believe the word "circus" is banded a bout with undue prejudice in our society. Their establishments should be viewed in the same light as any that promotes live animal entertainment such as horse and dog shows. I also object to the generalisation of smaller circuses being considered to have inferior welfare standards. One of the smallest circuses in the country, Giffords, which has only two horses, has very high Animal Welfare values.

  Paragraph 2: I welcome regulation and compulsory inspection of all circuses.

  Paragraph 3: I think greater clarification needs to be made over what these standards will be. The standards need to be realistically achievable.

  Paragraph 4: Agreed.

  Paragraph 5: A list of inspectors should be issued to all registered establishments. This list should be made available for travelling establishments to obtain.

  Paragraph 6: I do not believe that small amateur theatrical productions should be exempt. This means only tax paying establishments are subject to inspections. Through my experience in various forms of animal entertainment from live shows to film work, I have encountered situations where companies have used animals provided by amateurs to cut down on costs. Their exemption promotes the illegal use of animals and is contrary to the objectives of the Animal Welfare Bill.

ANNEX B

  I believe that pet fairs should be licensed, but caution should be taken that over stringent regulations and high licence fees will only encourage the practice to go underground.

ANNEX C

  I believe this to be a responsible proposal and am in complete agreement with the raising of the age to 16 and also support the compulsory issuing of animal care literature to consumers.

ANNEX D

  I believe that the sale of animals over the internet should be regulated and licensed in the same manner as normal pet shops.

ANNEX E

  I would like to bring a comparison between the attitude taken with Annex A and Annex E. According to Annex A smaller animal establishments are more likely to have lower Animal Welfare standards. Why, then, are smaller animal sanctuaries being encouraged by having to pay a "one off" smaller fee than the larger establishments. Surely such "one off' methods are being done away with by the Animal Welfare Bill, as in the case of the Animal Trainers Certificate 1925.

  I am in total agreement with the licensing, registering and regulation of animal sanctuaries. Although I have had dealings with very responsible examples of these establishments, I believe there to be severe Animal Welfare issues at stake in some so-called sanctuaries.

ANNEX F

  I am in agreement with this.

ANNEX G

  I am in firm agreement that all surgical procedures should be carried out by qualified veterinary surgeons. I support the Kennel Club's work on the breeding and docking issues. It is against my trade association's (Animal Consultants and Trainers Association) policy to perform any form of mutilation for the purposes of filming. I support the regulation of dew claw removal by veterinary surgeons only.

ANNEX H

  No comment.

ANNEX J

  Paragraph 1: Agreed.

  Paragraph 2: Agreed.

  Paragraph 3: Agreed.

  Paragraph 4: I don't support any regulation that hasn't been passed first through Parliament. This is inconsistent with democracy.

  Paragraph 5: 1 need better clarification on this in order to comment. What constitutes obstruction?

  Paragraph 6: Agreed.

  Paragraph 7: Agreed.

DEPRIVATION

  Agreed.

DISQUALIFICATION

  Depending on the severity of the case, I agree that a person should be given the opportunity to sell animals that are his property if he has been forbidden to own the said animals.

ANNEX K

  A database of all licensed premises should be held by the government and not by the RSPCA. I don't believe in handing such power to a pressure group, it would be inconsistent with the laws of fairness, especially when the said group campaigns against certain animal industries as a whole.

  I am in agreement with Option I for the reasons outlined in Annex K.

ANNEX L

  Agreed.

August 2004





 
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