Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Written Evidence


Memorandum submitted by Ark Group

INTRODUCTION

  Ark Group was set up four years ago by Gordon Glasson and Steve Woodward as a non-moneymaking web site designed to bring people with a similar interest together for the purpose of exchanging knowledge about the animals they keep by discussion and the exchange of information. Members are encouraged to help each other in the improvement of the general welfare of the animals they keep.

  Ark Group consists of the two original administrators along with a small team of Moderator/helpers. Ark Group now has over 350 members mainly from the UK but also abroad. The main website and forums can be found at http://p196.ezboard.com/barkreptilegroup

  Ark Group was involved in the testing of the Hypoaspis Mite as a harmless biological control of the blood sucking snake mite. We have recently been informed that the RSPCA is going to be recommending this method in their, as yet, unpublished reptile keeping handbook.

  The Ark Group website is also responsible for setting up and maintaining the National Re-homing Data Base.

  An interactive listing that puts potential re-homers in touch with people looking to find a new home for their unwanted pet. This facility is also used by a number of re-homing sanctuaries in the UK.

  Ark Group is affiliated to and supports the work of the Federation of British Herpetologists.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

  In replying to the draft Animal Welfare Bill we have tried to consider what effects each new piece of legislation will have on both the animal and the keeper and where it has the potential to be detrimental to the welfare of the animal or the legitimate activities of the keeper, we have suggested changes or asked for improvements to be made to the clause in question.

  Given the recent activities of certain animal rights groups, we have also tried to predict how some of this new legislation could be miss used and where we have found a potential for miss use we have asked that Defra look at ways to clarify the purpose of the new clause.

  Our greatest concern relates to the potential risk that groups with a non-democratic, strong animal rights agenda could be tempted to apply for positions of power such as prosecutors or inspectors in the hope of missusing this new legislation to attack and criminalise perfectly legitimate, law abiding, animal keepers and with this in mind we have asked that Defra put into place regulations prohibiting such groups or people from attaining such a position.

  We have finished by highlighting a number of subjects that we feel should be included in this draft Bill but are not present. We hope that Defra will see fit to consider reviewing these topics for future inclusion.

ARK GROUPS' WRITTEN EVIDENCE FOR EFRA, RE THE DRAFT ANIMAL WELFARE BILL

1.  CRUELTY

Re (2)(a)

  Where a person employs a third party, such as a professional kennel owner, on trust to look after their animal while they are away from home, they surely can not be held responsible for the actions of that person during their absence as any act of cruelty would be done without the owners knowledge. Subsection (2)(a) could be adjusted to cover this situation by adding the word knowingly, as in:

    (2)(a) he knowingly permits another person to cause the animal to suffer.

Re (4)(a) (b) and (c)

  The reptile hobby has seen a gradual increase of venomoid snakes in recent years. This involves a small operation to remove the venom producing glands from venomous snakes. Current thinking is varied, some say this operation causes no problems and little stress to the snake but has the benefits of making the snake safe to handle without the keeper needing grabs, hooks or sticks to control the animal which leads to a much calmer, relaxed snake. Others feel this could be a painful operation that compromises the welfare of the snake and shouldn't be permitted under any circumstances.

  Given that this could be called a mutilation, Ark Group requests that Defra consider the pros and cons to the snake provided by this operation and that they make their findings clear on this subject in the final Bill.

Re (7)(a) (b) and (c)

  A large number of snake keepers keep and breed mice to ensure they have a supply of healthy food for their snakes. Where a large number of mice are to be killed for freezing and later use, it is normal for the keeper to use an inert gas, such as CO2 pumped into a gas box to kill the mice. This procedure is as recommended by the Home Office in their Codes of Practice for the humane killing of animals under Schedule 1 to the Animals (Scientific Procedures) Act 1986.

  Can Defra confirm that this method will still be an accepted method (possibly as referred to under Welfare subsection (6)) or will subsection (7)(a) (b) and (c) now cause this act to be considered illegal?

2.  FIGHTING, ETC

  While Ark Group agrees fully with this section we are concerned that it is only made clear in the explanatory notes that incidental fighting between animals during other legitimate actions is legal. Fighting between a male and a female, during mating, is a normal part of the mating ritual in many species of reptiles and amphibians (and, we understand, in certain mammalian species as well). When an investigator encounters animals which are, or have been, involved in fights it is important that they are aware that allowing animals to engage in normal mating behaviour is not the same as setting up an animal fight.

  Ark Group feels that a subsection giving clarity to these circumstances should be added, possibly under subsection (3).

  Ark Group is also concerned that the feeding of a live vertebrate to a snake that is refusing frozen and thawed food could be construed as the placing together of two vertebrates for the purpose of fighting and would welcome a sub section clarifying this ambiguity. (See also Other concerns, 3. Live Feeding.)

3.  WELFARE

Re (4)(a) (b) (c) (d) and (e)

  This section would appear to be based upon the Five Freedoms. Ark Group expressed concerns in the original consultations about the inappropriateness of the Five Freedoms when transferred from farm livestock to the very variable companion pet world.

  Of the five sections our greatest concern relates to (4)(c), as all animals in captivity behave differently to their wild counterparts, and it is not possible for any pet, however well domesticated, always to exhibit the "normal behaviour patterns" of its wild counterpart. This section is stating that a keeper has failed in his duty regarding the welfare of his animal if he isn't allowing his dog to join a pack and hunt small deer or isn't providing his pet iguana with a vivarium wide enough and high enough for it to spend part of each day sitting on a branch 10 metres high overhanging a river, even pet cats that live partly as house pets and partly as free roaming animals do not behave in the same way as their truly wild counterparts. Subsection (4)(c) just doesn't work and must either be dropped or reworded to take into account that ALL animals adapt to and behave differently in captivity.

4.  SALE TO PERSONS UNDER 16

  Ark Group agrees with this section but feels that it should be made clear that this is not banning under-16s from involvement with animals just that an adult will be held responsible for the welfare of any animal being cared for by some one under the age of 16.

  Ark Group also has concerns relating to the difficulty for vendors, of judging the age of some of the more mature looking under sixteens.

5.  GIVING AS PRIZES

  Ark Group fully agrees.

6.  REGULATIONS TO PROMOTE WELFARE

  Ark Groups members are hobbyists not legal experts and section 6 relates more to legal issues than animal welfare.

  Our only concern is that under subsection (6) the appropriate Stake Holder Groups are consulted before any new draft legislation is placed before either house. This would be to make sure that any new legislation would have the desired effect and not cause any detrimental welfare issues.

7.  CODE OF PRACTICE

  Ark Group fully agrees.

8.  MAKING AND APPROVAL OF CODES OF PRACTICE

9.  MAKING CODES OF PRACTICE IN WALES

10.  REVOCATION OF CODES OF PRACTICE

  Again Ark Group members are hobbyists not legal experts. Ark Group finds nothing unacceptable in sections 8, 9 and 10.

11.  POWERS TO TAKE POSSESSION OF, AND RETAIN ANIMALS IN DISTRESS

Re (2)(b)

  This section is about dealing with animals in distress, how does Defra justify giving an inspector or constable the power to remove a healthy animal, without a veterinary surgeon's opinion on the grounds that if circumstances don't change it is likely to suffer? If the animal is likely to suffer but not actually suffering at the time, there is no reason why the inspector or constable shouldn't wait for a veterinary surgeon's opinion.

  This section could easily be abused by an inspector or constable who has a personal dislike of the keeper or the type of animal being kept.

  Ark Group feels that the only reason for an inspector or constable to remove an animal without a second opinion is if the animal is clearly suffering, as suggested in (2)(a).

12.  POWERS TO REMOVE AND CARE FOR ANIMALS IN DISTRESS

Re (1)(b)(i)

  Ark Group is concerned that an inspector, having removed an animal under 11(1)(a)(b)(c) or 11(2)(a)(b) is then given the authority to retain the animal at the same premises under 12(1)(b)(i) where the initial problem had arisen. If there was a problem with the standard of accommodation that was likely to cause the animal(s) to suffer, what has been gained by continuing to maintain them at the same place? There is nothing in either the clause or the explanatory notes to say the situation must be improved before this situation can arise.

13.  OTHER POWERS IN RELATION TO ANIMALS IN DISTRESS

  Ark Group has no specific concerns regarding section 12.

14.  ENTRY TO SEARCH FOR AND DEAL WITH ANIMALS IN DISTRESS

Re (1)(a)(b) and (2) and (3)

  This section appears to give powers of entry to an inspector onto private premises using reasonable force, at any time, on his/her own, except between the hours of 11 pm and 5 am (when a constable must be present), without the need for a warrant just based on reasonable belief that a protected animal may be suffering there in. As far as Ark Group can ascertain the police would currently require a warrant to enter private premises under these circumstances and would also need a warrant to enter premises where greater crimes than this were being committed.

  Ark Group is extremely concerned that Defra appears to be conferring greater powers on an inspector than those currently available to the Police. Ark Group is also concerned that section 4 is also removing the need for Police to obtain a warrant before entering a premises purely based on reasonable belief.

  With regards to (2) , how would the inspector know in advance, if the part of a premises he is about to force his way into is being used as a private dwelling until he was actually inside?

Sections 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20—Animals in distress: proceedings pending

  Again Ark Group members are hobbyists not legal experts. Ark Group sees nothing disagreeable in these 6 sections. Our only concern relates to what criteria will be used in deciding who will be given the authority to perform the function of prosecutor.

  Ark Group would be extremely concerned if groups such as the RSPCA with their strong anti exotic pet stance and general dislike of animals in cages were to be given such powers.

  Ark Group's members are extremely concerned that organisations given the authority to perform the function of prosecutor should not be organisations biased by internal policies which state that exotic pet keeping is, in itself, wrong. We believe that a fair unbiased approach to a case is unlikely to be obtained if the prosecutor is an organisation involved in animal rights activities or governed by members of recognised animal rights groups. Such organisations should be excluded from acting as prosecutor.

  In both cases Ark Group feels that while everyone has a right to hold their personal views, regardless of how extreme, giving power to such persons and their organisations would be the equivalent of putting the British National Party in charge of race relations and immigration.

Sections 21, 22, 23—Animals kept for fighting, etc

  Again Ark Group members are hobbyists not legal experts. Ark Group finds nothing unacceptable in these three sections. Our only concern is that these sections have the potential to cause animals to be removed because they are of a recognised fighting type and not because they are being used for fighting. While some reptiles and amphibians will and do fight during mating and territorial squabbles none are recognised as animals used for fighting so this might not directly concern our members, but Ark Group can see this causing problems for legitimate keepers of some dogs and chickens of the game type breed and feels that regulations should be put in place to protect innocent keepers from over zealous inspectors.

Sections 24 through to 34—Powers following conviction

  Again Ark Group members are hobbyists not legal experts. Ark Group finds nothing unacceptable in these 10 sections. Nevertheless we would urge Defra to include a section giving preference to the re-homing of animals considered rare or listed as endangered rather than issuing a destruction order.

Sections 35 through to 41—Enforcement powers

  Again Ark Group members are hobbyists not legal experts. Our main concern with the above sections is the amount of freedom being given to inspectors and constables to enter premises without a warrant. There also seems to be a lack of clarity as to what part of a premises should be considered a private dwelling. Many private animal keepers keep their animals in their garden. Is a garden considered to be part of a private dwelling or can animal keepers expect to find their gardens raided without the need for a warrant in the near future?

Sections 42 and 43—Prosecutions

  Ark Group is extremely concerned by 43(1)(a). We are dealing with the lives of animals and people. It is totally unacceptable to prolong the start of any case beyond a maximum of one year and should preferably be shorter. Both the animal(s) and the owner would be in a state of limbo for this period (assuming the animal lives that long or is allowed to live under the new regulations) and in the event of being found innocent owners would find themselves reunited with an animal they would hardly know.

  Ark Group is totally opposed to this section.

Sections 44 and 45—Inspectors

  As already stated under the heading of Animals in distress: proceedings pending, Ark Groups' major concern about the appointment of organisations or individuals into the positions of prosecutors and inspectors is that there should be set regulations laid down prohibiting any one or group with Animal Rights connections from being considered.

  To consider offering such powers to a person or organisation with such extremist opinions would be totally wrong in a democratic society such as we boast of, here in the United Kingdom.

Sections 46 through to 57 general

  Again Ark Group members are hobbyist's not legal experts, our only concern relates to section 53 where it is suggested that invertebrates could be added to the act by the appropriate national authority in the future.

  Countless numbers of invertebrates are deliberately injured or killed daily throughout the country by our use of insecticides, molluscicides, poisons, traps and fly swats. Adding invertebrates to the Bill would make most people resident in the UK offenders and open to prosecution should their attempts to kill an invertebrate fail and lead to its "unnecessary suffering".

  Even if the types of invertebrate covered by the Bill were to be restricted to those currently bred as feeder animals for reptiles, birds and fish, Ark Group believes this move could cause a serious knock-on effect should new regulations prove too restrictive for the small number of breeders now supplying our reptiles with live invertebrates. The welfare implications for insectivorous animals whose owners cannot purchase insects are unthinkable.

OTHER CONCERNS

1.   Neglect

  In Defra's initial consultation there was a request for peoples' views on the subject of neglect. Ark Group felt that deliberate cruelty was a worse crime than neglect caused accidentally by a person's inability to care for his/her animal(s) due to reasons beyond their control.

  Ark Group is disappointed that no heading covering the situation of neglect appears to be in this draft Bill. This appears to make all cases come under the heading of cruelty regardless of the circumstances involved.

2.   Street photographers

  Ark Group raised concerns in the original consultation about the use of animals by street photographers as photographic props. Animals suffer the constant disruption of being repeatedly passed from person to person and have to face all kinds of weather conditions, this is not conducive to good animal welfare and clear suffering is often visible.

  Ark Group requests that Defra consider making this activity an offence in the same way as giving pets as prizes is now to become an offence.

3.   Live feeding

  While UK snake keepers do not condone the feeding of live vertebrates to snakes, there are rare occasions especially with hatchlings and newly captive specimens where only a live vertebrate will be accepted as food. This always leaves the keeper with the dilemma of either feeding live or allowing the snake to starve to death. As far as Ark Group can determine, this practice is currently legal so long as not practised in a public place. There has always been confusion over the legality of this practice as no regulation directly relating to this has ever been decreed. Many millions of rodents are destroyed every year by break back traps and poison, compared to these methods the kill by a snake is swift and efficient.

  Ark Group would like to see Defra clarify the situation regarding the feeding of live vertebrates to other vertebrates when no alternative exists, setting out clear indications of the circumstances under which this practice can legally take place.

4.   Education

  Ark Group is surprised and saddened that no attempt is made in this Bill to encourage organisations, welfare groups and the school authorities to offer any form of education to the public regards improving their husbandry standards and the welfare of their animals.

5.   Animals in Transit

  Currently under the Distance Selling Regulations 2000 there is no caveat made for animals being sold remotely. They are not regarded (rightly) as perishable goods but as such are legally permitted to be returned to the vendor within seven days without argument. This has critical implications for the welfare of animals undergoing a second episode of stressful travel in such a short time.

  The Welfare of Animals (Transport) Order 1997 does states in Schedule 6 in relation to article 4 that: Other vertebrate and cold blooded animals shall be transported in such receptacles of means of transport, under such conditions (in particular with regard to space, ventilation, temperature and security) and with such supply of liquid and oxygen as are appropriate for the species.

  Article 4(1) States "No person shall transport any animal in a way which causes or is likely to cause injury or unnecessary suffering to that animal".

  But there is still nothing to stop animals being continuously shuttled back and forth between supplier and customer on numerous occasions.

  Ark Group sees this Bill as the perfect opportunity for Defra to bring in legislation to correct this current situation.

6.   Protection for keepers

  Ark Group is deeply concerned that Defra has not suggested appointing an ombudsman to over see the actions of all the new inspectors likely to be created by this Bill. There are clear and well respected complaints procedures in place for any member of the public who feels she/he has been treated unfairly by the Police but who can any member of the public go to if she/he feels they have been treated unfairly by Defra's new inspectorate?

  To put it simply; who is inspecting the inspectors?

21 August 2004





 
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