Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons Minutes of Evidence


Submission from the Chairman of the Board of Management

CHANGES TO THE HOUSE'S SITTING HOURS

  1.  I understand that the Modernisation Committee is intending to re-examine the House's sitting hours. I am writing on behalf of the Board of Management to indicate how House staff may be affected by further changes.

  2.  Not all House staff are directly affected by changes to the House's sitting times, but in a number of areas, in particular those serving the main and parallel Chambers, and the Committees of the House, working hours are closely related to the hours the House sits. Staff in such areas have generally benefited from earlier finish times and more predictable working hours. They have had to start work earlier, however, and have experienced more intensive periods of work, which in some cases has led to difficulties with taking meal breaks. Nor is it guaranteed that the House will rise earlier than before under the new arrangements: the House has often sat well beyond 7.30 pm on Tuesdays and Wednesdays in recent weeks.

  3.  It is worth bearing in mind that staff must often attend well before a sitting, or Committee meeting, begins, in order to undertake preparatory work, and must often stay after the rise of the House, for example to send the final version of the Order Paper or daily Hansard to be printed. Furthermore, the Lords now routinely sits later than the Commons on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, which can cause problems for Public Bill Office staff who must sometimes wait long after the Commons has risen to receive bills and messages from the Lords for consideration the next day. The options your Committee is likely to consider are not likely to exacerbate this problem.

  4.  In general, House staff have shown considerable flexibility in adapting to the changes agreed in October 2002 and implemented just over two months later, in January 2003. Many staff altered well-established domestic arrangements in order to adjust to the House's new requirements. It is, I believe, most important that adequate notice should be given of any further changes to the current sitting pattern, so that management and staff can make adequate preparations. This approach was endorsed by the Procedure Committee, in its commentary on the results on the recent survey of Members' views on sitting hours. It asked your Committee to bear in mind that decisions about sitting hours "should be taken in full knowledge of the implication for staff working patterns and enough notice should be given for these to be changed if necessary"[1]

  5.  The Procedure Committee has also recently focused on the possibility of transferring Friday business to mid-week evenings, or taking non-contentious business at such times, and concluded that this should be introduced "only after appropriate staffing arrangements can be made, not before"[2] My evidence to the Committee included reference to how such a change would affect staff. In some areas, particularly in the Clerk's Department and the Department of the Official Report, a standard 14-hour working day would be introduced for at least two days a week. In order to guarantee that employment legislation was complied with, a shift system would need to be introduced which would entail the recruitment, and training, of extra staff. This would be costly; would require changes to the House's three-year financial plans, which are agreed by the Commission and the Finance and Services Committee; and could not be achieved without a significant lead time.

  6.  A further, procedural, problem relating to taking Private Members' Bills on Tuesday and Wednesday evenings would also affect staff working conditions and would be likely to inconvenience Members. In order to guarantee, say, three hours of debate on each of those evenings, Private Members' business would either have to be commenced at a set time, for example 7 pm, or there would have to be provision for three hours' debate commencing at whatever hour the main business was concluded. The first option could lead to the main business being interrupted at 7 pm and then resumed at 10 pm, with the possibility of wind-up speeches or divisions after that time. The second option would generate uncertainty as to when Private Members' business would commence, particularly if the recent trend for other debates, such as on Opposition motions or the remaining stages of Government bills, to be guaranteed certain amounts of time continues. In both cases, unpredictable finish times after 10 pm would be reintroduced and the frequency of significantly late sittings would be likely to increase.

  7.  Problems would also arise if the House chose to restore the former sitting hours on Tuesdays or Wednesdays, but Standing Committees continued to meet at 9 am. The current problems arising from the same staff sometimes working late on a Monday and starting as early as 7.30 am on a Tuesday to support a Standing Committee would be exacerbated in such circumstances. Either some staff would be expected to work very long hours on those days, or, in the long run, extra staff would be needed. The combination of a later sitting time on Tuesdays and an early start on Wednesdays would be somewhat easier to deal with, in terms of compliance with employment legislation, than the current arrangements, because Standing Committees do not routinely sit on Wednesdays.

  8.  One of the difficulties which has arisen as a result of earlier sittings (particularly of Standing Committees) is that there is less time in which to prepare amendment and other papers, as a result of which Members have less time to prepare for debates. This situation would be improved if the notice period for the tabling of amendments to bills was increased. Selection lists could be issued earlier, other preparatory work for Standing Committee meetings could be undertaken on the day before the meeting, rather than very early in the morning, and staff workload could be more easily managed. Increasing the notice period for amendments would also be an essential prerequisite for attempting to implement the suggestions made by the Modernisation Committee for increasing the clarity of the papers available to Standing Committees, given the significant extra work which changes of that sort would entail.

  9.  I hope these observations are helpful and I would welcome the opportunity to contribute further, on either the procedural or managerial aspects of further changes, as you develop firm proposals.

Roger Sands

Clerk of the House

June 2004





1   HC 491, 2003-04, paragraph 13. Back

2   HC 333, 2002-03, paragraph 39. Back


 
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