Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons Written Evidence


Submission from Rt Hon Harriet Harman QC, MP

  I am writing to you to set out in the strongest possible terms why I think you should not give any support to the idea of going back on the new hours of the House of Commons.

  Just by way of background, you will remember that when I first entered the House in 1982 I was one of only 3% women MPs. The old sitting hours were not an issue for the male dominated House who had, for the most part, delegated their day-to-day family responsibilities to their wives.

  For the women MPs, of whom there are now many more, that is less likely to be the way they choose to, or have to, run their family life. The fact is that it is mostly mothers who have day-to-day caring responsibilities for children and elderly relatives and in that respect women MPs are no different from other women.

  It has been good for parliament and good for Labour to have more women MPs. There is now, regularly on the parliamentary agenda for debate, issues which would not have had a look-in in the days when I was first in parliament—issues such as childcare, flexible working and domestic violence. Labour believes in equality and in supporting the family. The old sitting hours were much more difficult for women combining their work in parliament with their family responsibilities—so they cut against our commitment to equality. And they made it more difficult for MPs, whether men or women, to be seriously involved in day-to-day parenting—and thereby cut against our commitment to supporting parenting.

  For a Labour dominated House to revert to the old hours would show double standards—we urge employers to be family friendly, but we turn back the clock on Parliament becoming more family friendly.

  And parliament looked ridiculously old-fashioned with 97% men. The old sitting hours belonged to that era and not to today.

  So my positive points are:

    —  Parliament needed more women—the new hours are part of making parliament more modern and equal.

    —  More women have widened and improved the areas of debate in parliament.

    —  The changed sitting hours have not reduced the number of hours available for the parliament to scrutinise the executive.

    —  It has always been the case that committees, Westminster Hall and the Chamber have operated at the same time.

  My negative points are:

    —  To change the hours would make Labour look old-fashioned and backward looking.

    —  Women MPs would be furious—and so would many men.

    —  It would be double standards.

  It is important to remember that the current sitting hours are not a victory for the "modernisers". The current sitting hours were a compromise. Many of us wanted 9.00 am-5.00 pm (except for Mondays which all have agreed should stay as they are.) In practice, the current compromise leaves the House sitting often after 7.00 pm. If the current compromise is unstitched, there is no guarantee that another compromise could be agreed to take its place. We could well end up with the situation we had on Lords reform with the House voting down all options. So I would counsel you to be very cautious before unstitching the current compromise—would you be able to get agreement on what should take its place? Parliament could well do without looking ridiculous as it reached deadlock on how to organised itself.

  As to the point that the current hours do not help MPs whose families live outside London, I would make two points in response:

    —  A reform which helps some should not be ditched just because it does not help all.

    —  The current hours do not make things worse for those who live outside London—indeed the Thursday change (to 6.30 pm instead of 10.00 pm as it used to be) is specifically to enable more MPs to be able to return to their constituency and family by Thursday night.

  And as to the point that the current hours leave MPs with nothing to do in the evening—MPs could follow the example of the PLP women's committee that has instituted a "Women on Wednesdays" social evening.

  I would also, finally, appeal to you personally as you are someone who has a reputation for being progressive and in favour of equality, not to support any such move.

  As we agreed the current sitting hours, one MP who opposed change said "what about my visit to the gym". To which I replied—"what is more important—the gym or family responsibilities?".

  We have got plenty of important issues to debate in parliament over the next few years. Changing the hours back to suit a male-dominated House of the last century should not be one of them.

January 2004





 
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