Select Committee on Northern Ireland Affairs Written Evidence


APPENDIX 2

Supplementary memorandum submitted by Sir George Quigley

REPORT'S PROPOSALS REGARDING POLICING

  1.  Judging by some media coverage and reported comments, there is considerable misunderstanding about the impact of my proposals for the role of the police.

  2.  To recap, the Report distinguishes two questions regarding parades. First, can the right to freedom of peaceful assembly be exercised without giving rise to the need for some restriction in order that the rights and freedom of others may be protected? Second, where a right is recognised by the Panel, are there public safety etc considerations which require that the right be restricted?

  3.  The Report further argues that the examination of each of these two questions calls for a different competency. The first question, which the Report regards as basic, since it deals with potential conflict of rights issues between parties, is a matter for the proposed new Rights Panel. Public safety etc issues are for the police.

  4.  The North Committee recognised that the police did not have the competence to deal with non-public order issues but then gave the decision-making power not only on these issues but also on public order issues to a single body, the Parades Commission. Public order was cited by the Commission in a recent year as a criterion for its decisions in 89% of cases and poor community relations (often described in decisions as creating the potential for public disorder) in 94% of cases. The question of whether a peaceful parade would adversely affect the rights and freedom of others is rarely directly addressed. It has therefore been easy for those unsympathetic to the Commission to characterise it as a Law and Order Commission, which was precisely what North wanted to avoid.

  5.  Interestingly, North, followed by the 1998 Act establishing the Commission, left with the police all issues regarding protest meetings (as distinct from protest marches) the nature of which can be a very sensitive aspect of some parading situations.

  6.  My proposals place the relevant functions in respect of both parades and protests with those competent to deal with them: conflict of rights with the Rights Panel and public safety etc with the police, who would be obliged to see the Panel's decision implemented unless they had to impose a restriction on public safety etc grounds.

  7.  Before reaching my Recommendation on this division of functions, I set out fully the reasons why I preferred it to the alternative of preserving the current arrangements (with all aspects handled by a single body) and I explained precisely what the import of my Recommendation was.

  8.  There has, nonetheless, been confusion and misunderstanding, typified by the comment of the Policing Board for Northern Ireland that what I propose would place the decision-making power back with the police. This misses the point and is an inaccurate and misleading characterisation of my Recommendation. The Report makes clear (p 233) that the police would be involved in the implementation, not the making, of the decision and would not therefore have the dual role which was regarded as an unsatisfactory feature of the pre-Parades Commission situation.

  9.  It has been argued in favour of the status quo that the police must be in a position of neutrality and that the approval of parades cannot be devolved to the police. I support both propositions and my proposal breaches neither.

  10.  Under present arrangements, the police have a covert input to the information on which the Commission takes its decision. The decision may or may not reflect police advice but the police are obliged to implement the decision unless the Chief Constable has recourse to the Secretary of State under Section 9 of the 1998 Act.

  11.  Under my proposals, the police, as now, would implement the decision of the decision-making body, which for the future would be the Rights Panel. They would have no input to the Panel because they have no competence on the conflict of rights issues with which the Panel would be exclusively concerned, just as the Panel would have no special competence on public safety etc issues.

  12.  There should be a presumption that a right recognised by the Panel would be protected. I cite authority for that proposition at pages 225-7 of the Report, which also indicates circumstances in which it might not be possible for the police, on public safety etc grounds, to protect the right, which would then have to be restricted on those grounds by the police.

  13.  As the Report makes clear, a culture of rights (which embraces the rights both of those who parade and of those who protest) is meaningless unless underpinned by the rule of law and a network of mutual obligation. Our support for the notion of a culture of rights cannot be confined only to those occasions when, in a conflict of rights situation, it delivers what we want. The proposals in the Report, building in as they do a statutory opportunity for objections to be registered and a carefully structured, transparent 2-stage process for dealing with those objections (focusing primarily on obtaining settlement through facilitation), should create a context which progressively nurtures on all sides respect for the culture of rights.

  14.  As the Chief Constable has said, the PSNI is ideally placed to give an objective risk assessment in regard to parades. If, having made such an assessment, the police concluded that they could not in any particular case protect the decision by the Rights Panel, they would (like any other Police Service throughout the world) impose such restrictions on a parade as they deemed necessary on public safety etc grounds. This would not affect the existence of the right recognised by the Panel but it would curtail its exercise. They can of course do this at present under section lO of the 1998 Act which confirms the common law powers of a constable to take action to deal with or prevent a breach of the peace.

  15.  Under my proposals, the police would be publicly accountable. This chimes well with the current emphasis on the need for accountability in the new policing era.

  16.  Any policy issues regarding the policing of parades (eg relating to priorities, given other pressing demands on the PSNI budget) could be dealt with by the cross-community Policing Board. According to recent media reports, the Board will be reviewing the police's handling of flashpoint parades as part of a general audit of strategy, planning and handling of public events. The Northern Ireland Affairs Select Committee's current inquiry will presumably cover the issue of the overall cost of policing parades. It was clear from what I was told by the police during my Review that in some cases the unit costs (ie total costs in respect of a contentious parade, expressed as cost per person parading) are much higher than would be deduced from the figure of £20,000 cited in the Parades Commission's 5th Annual Report as covering the policing necessary for a parade of 500 in an interface area on a Saturday evening.

  17.  It has been suggested that my proposals would increase the likelihood that those out to make trouble would try to get at the police and set them up, leading to confrontation. This can happen now when police have to implement an unpopular decision of the Parades Commission. It is difficult to understand why it should be any more likely to happen if the police were implementing a Rights Panel decision into which (unlike Commission decisions) they would have had no input. Logically, the likelihood should be diminished.

  18.  Under my proposals, the Secretary of State, in circumstances where the police were disposed to see the decision of the Rights Panel implemented, would have a reserve power to re-route a parade where he decided that this was necessary in the interests of national security or public safety or for the prevention of disorder or crime. This residual power should only have to be used in the most exceptional of circumstances.

  19.  The Report emphasises the vital point that neither the police nor the Secretary of State would be able to legitimise a parade which the Rights Panel had ruled would infringe the rights and freedom of others.

  20.  Since public order decisions have to be taken close to the event, to continue having conflict of rights and public safety etc issues dealt with by a single body would entail continuing to cram the decision-making process into a short period of time, thereby making it difficult to have the much more carefully structured process, conforming to the canons of natural justice, for which the Report argues. On my proposals, the Rights Panel could make its decision well ahead of the event and, indeed, for a period longer than that marching season, leaving it to the police to take an informed view on the public safety etc situation closer to implementation.

  21.  We have entered what is intended to be a new era for policing. Unless PSNI carves out a new identity for itself, and is prepared to take the decisions which it properly falls to an accountable police service to take, it will not succeed. It will gain increasing respect, acceptability and community confidence not by evading the difficult decisions but by the professional way it takes them and brings others along with it in taking and implementing them in conformity with human rights standards. The police, like all the other players, have to be compliant with the European Convention on Human Rights.

27 January 2004





 
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