Select Committee on Northern Ireland Affairs Minutes of Evidence


APPENDIX 1

Letter to Ian Pearson MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Northern Ireland Office from Rt Hon Michael Mates MP, Chairman of the Committee

SCRUTINY OF NORTHERN IRELAND DEPARTMENTS' ACCOUNTS

  The Northern Ireland Affairs Sub-Committee took evidence from officials about Northern Ireland Departments' Accounts on 8 September. While grateful for officials' efforts to address our concerns, we remain concerned about a number of important points on which I am writing to seek clarification.

DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND PERSONNEL (DFP)

Resource Accounts and Financial Management

  Following concerns raised in a report by the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland (C&AGNI), the Committee asked about the extremely high proportion of accounts which have received a negative audit opinion recently (10 in 2001-02 and seven in 2002-03 out of 17 departments) and why departments' financial management had not shown more significant signs of improvement.[1] We were told that poor performance was due to "a lack of financial skills, difficulties over management information systems, and . . . the introduction of the devolved administration that coincided with the preparations for resource accounting". [Q1] We were surprised by this response given that departments must have been aware of both devolution and resource accounting requirements well before their implementation. We also understand that Northern Ireland departments had the advantage of a "dry run" prior to the full implementation of resource accounting. [Q3] It appears from the C&AGNI's report, that departments were particularly ill prepared for the increased financial management required by resource accounting, as only two of the seven qualified accounts in 2002-03 would have received a negative audit opinion under the cash based system of accounting.[2] Poor performance has been exacerbated by the lack of a resource based accounting system, which has meant increased manual effort to produce accounts at the year end. We would be grateful for a detailed explanation of why these problems arose in Northern Ireland and the steps that have been taken to ensure that future departmental financial management and performance will improve.

Accounting Services Programme

  We understand that the Treasury's programme called "faster closing" which is designed to accelerate the publication of resource accounts will bring forward to before the 2006 recess the date for the production and laying before the House of Commons of all 2005-06 accounts, and that DFP is seeking to adhere to this timetable. We were told by Northern Ireland officials that a new accounting system, the Accounting Services Programme (ASP), is being developed currently for implementation across all Northern Ireland departments. This appears sensible as the production of resource accounts was hampered by the lack of an appropriate resource based accounting system, and success in meeting the "faster closing" timetable will depend in large measure on the creation of a much better financial management system than is available at present [Q19].

  However, a problem is apparent in reconciling the aspirations of DFP to meet the Treasury timetable for "faster closing"' in July 2006 with the timetable for the completion of the ASP which is March 2008. Mr Hunter, the Permanent Secretary of DFP, explained that "establishing . . . and rolling out the new management information system . . . will take from April 2006 through to March 2008", but that it remained DFP's "aspiration" to meet the "faster closing" deadline of 2006.[Q30] In these circumstances, it is difficult to understand how meeting the 2006 deadline can be a realistic aspiration, and elsewhere in his evidence to us Mr Hunter appeared to cast doubt that it could be met. [Q19]

  We are concerned not only that the date for "faster closing" of Northern Ireland departmental accounts appears most unlikely to be met, but that the focus upon ASP which will deliver enhanced financial management information fully only after 2008, may very well detract from departments' efforts to improve the present poor position in the intervening years resulting in continuing high levels of negative audit opinions. We would find it helpful to have a note setting out how these timetabling pressures will be managed and, in particular, how the DFP aims to meet the Treasury's "faster closing" deadline will be achieved; what resources will be devoted to overcome the continued problems with financial reporting in the period until ASP is fully operational in 2008 and what approach will be adopted; and whether the ASP project is progressing according to DFP's timetable.

Efficiency Review Targets

  The Sub committee was interested to learn how Northern Ireland departments intended to meet the efficiency savings recommended in Sir Peter Gershon's review.[Q27] Whilst we were pleased to learn that departments had efficiency plans in place, it remains unclear how any efficiency savings are to be accurately measured or verified. Without such assurance, departments are unlikely to demonstrate transparently and convincingly that efficiency targets have been met. It would be useful if you could provide a note setting out details of how efficiency savings will be verified and measured.

Use of Consultants

  The Committee was troubled by the conclusions of a Northern Ireland Audit Office (NIAO) report that some £8.4 million had been spent on consultants without a proper business case, and that the variable standard of data provided to DFP meant that its monitoring was limited.[3] Mr Hunter was frank about the Department's shortcomings: "We . . . had not been monitoring closely department practices in respect of the engagement of consultants and with hindsight that was something that we should have been looking more closely at." [Q35]. The Committee would find it helpful if you could provide reassurance that the monitoring of consultants is now being conducted properly, and provide an outline of the new procedures which have been put in place to achieve this.


DEPARTMENT FOR SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT (DSD)

Disclaimer Audit Opinion in 2001-02 and 2002-03

  The Sub committee was particularly concerned to note DSD's second consecutive adverse audit opinion in 2002-03 resulted from the same failings as were noted in 2001-02. Significant fraud and error were the principle causes of the negative audit reports, and it seemed to us, therefore, that there has been a sustained failure to address these important failings with sufficient urgency. Mr Shannon, Permanent Secretary of DSD, assured us that the Department was now "working vigorously" to reduce fraud and error, but evidently these efforts have yet to be audited. [Qq36,43] We would be grateful for a comprehensive list of actions taken in 2002-03 and 2003-04 to tackle these problems, and an estimate of their likely impact.

Reasons for Fraud and Error

  In addition to the point above, the Sub committee wanted to know why high levels of fraud and error persisted, totalling some £120.9 million in 2002-03, 7.6% of the expenditure on Income Support, Jobseeker's Allowance, Disability Living Allowance, and Housing Benefit. We were disconcerted to hear officials explain this figure as the product of "a complex business" which was "not unique to Northern Ireland." [Q48]. After considerable probing, the Sub committee was told that "poor management", "poor training", and "inexperienced staff" had contributed to the problem. This was exacerbated by a "substantial number . . . 300 odd" of poorly trained "casual, temporary staff" hired by the Housing Executive. [Qq49,Q 52]

  It seems astonishing that any department would employ large numbers of poorly trained and badly managed temporary staff in order to process benefits claims, and officials unfortunately were not in a position when giving evidence to the Sub committee on 8 September to provide detailed reasons why staff of poor calibre were recruited. We would appreciate a detailed note on the background to what was clearly an entirely unacceptable situation. We would also like the Department to explain why this problem was not identified before fraud and error had reached high levels, and what reassurance there is that this situation will not recur.

Child Support Agency

  The Committee was also interested in whether the corrective steps taken to improve the "quality and accuracy" of the Child Support Agency's payments had worked. We were reassured to hear that performance had improved on the new scheme, but were disappointed to learn that the old scheme persists (although we acknowledge that performance in that scheme has improved recently). [Q56] It would be helpful to have a note setting out the timetable for the migration of the old schemes to the new system, and an indication of the milestones which have been put in place to achieve that goal.

14 October 2004


1   General Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland, Financial Auditing and Reporting: 2002-03, HC673, Session 2002-04. Back

2   HC673, p 7, paras 6 and 7. Back

3   Northern Ireland Audit Office, Use of Consultants by Northern Ireland Departments, 2003-04, HC 641, p 11, para 13. Back


 
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