Select Committee on Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Minutes of Evidence


Examination of Witnesses (Questions 40-44)

1 NOVEMBER 2004

MR ADAM WILKINSON, MR TERENCE BENDIXSON AND MR TONY TUGNUTT

  Q40 Chris Mole: That is a broader context. What I am suggesting is that you cannot separate the design from the development with a Chinese wall, because as well as the wider context you have got the context of the development as a whole in which the design sits, surely?

  Mr Bendixson: In my view, I think you can. Whether or not a scheme is a mixed development or a hotel or an office are aspects that the local authority is going to be dealing with. CABE might well think that a building that was a hotel was extremely well designed and suited to its context. It might then be turned down by the local authority because they wanted an office there. There is the distinction between design and development.

  Q41 Chairman: One of the things which have been put to us is that it is alright to wrap CABE as though it was an organisation which always came up with a consistent view of life, but it depends very much on who you happen to get on the design review panel as to what answer you get. Therefore, there is a problem of consistency, in terms of different views and the different styles of architecture and who is actually on the panel. Is that a problem which you have come across?

  Mr Bendixson: Certainly we have noticed that, over the history of particular schemes, where, quite rightly, CABE has been invited to come back on several occasions over a period of two years, the same people were not on the review panel for successive meetings. Clearly that is a problem.

  Q42 Sir Paul Beresford: Is it a problem or is it the other way round? CABE is an advisory panel and what you are getting is different thoughts from different experts, which makes the scenario fun, or exciting, and gives us an opportunity to develop and broaden instead of building the same old thing?

  Mr Wilkinson: How can that be helpful for the developer, getting different advice in stages and inconsistent advice?

  Q43 Sir Paul Beresford: It is advice to the developer, advice to the local authority and, at the end of the day, it is a decision made by the local authority on what the developer wishes to put forward, surely?

  Mr Bendixson: No. It is no different really from the role of the architect of a particular scheme. If the development at the beginning of the scheme had one architect and halfway through another architect and at the end a third architect, it would be bound to be a dog's breakfast. There is bound to be a tendency, if CABE's panel changes over the course of its advice, for there not to be continuity in that advice.

  Q44 Sir Paul Beresford: It will be exciting and new?

  Mr Bendixson: I do not see how you can think it is going to be exciting. I think it is just going to be a muddle.

  Chairman: At that point, we have to bring this session to an end. Thank you very much indeed for your evidence.





 
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